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reformist2

(9,841 posts)
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 02:28 PM Sep 2015

Me: If Bernie gets the nominaton he will shock the experts with a 40-state landslide next November.

See? I can make a prediction too. Will it be a national story? Probably not, because I'm not an establishment person.

I'm really getting sick of these establishment experts who are sounding the alarms, and together are acting like an echo chamber of worry and hysteria that their candidate might not get the nomination.

There are waaay too many pundits these days making headlines with their stupid predictions.

Remember when the news used to center on politicians' positions? I do. It wasn't that long ago, really. Believe it or not, kiddies, the news used to actually report where candidates stood on the issues, and not just scandals and what they used to call "the horse race."

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Me: If Bernie gets the nominaton he will shock the experts with a 40-state landslide next November. (Original Post) reformist2 Sep 2015 OP
Experts matter and their opinions hold more weight. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #1
LOL! reformist2 Sep 2015 #5
Who would you trust on climate science? SonderWoman Sep 2015 #7
Scientists, of course. The people predicting elections 14 months from now are not scientists. reformist2 Sep 2015 #11
Who exactly are you referring to? SonderWoman Sep 2015 #12
Just the punditocracy, most of whom aren't even journalists, let alone scientists. reformist2 Sep 2015 #14
Okay. Thought you were referring to: SonderWoman Sep 2015 #39
Yeah, there are also bvf Sep 2015 #16
that's doesnt make their untested and untestable assertions fact. mopinko Sep 2015 #26
You're wasting your time trying to explain bvf Sep 2015 #44
prolly true. mopinko Sep 2015 #50
President Romney might disagree with you. Vinca Sep 2015 #30
That's what I was thinking: they left Romney in disbelief when he was told he lost. C Moon Sep 2015 #32
Indeed, virtually all the pundits were pro-Iraq War Fumesucker Sep 2015 #33
You may well be right. MineralMan Sep 2015 #2
I would like Bernie on the democratic ticket and Cruz on the republican side yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #29
"it would be avery close election, I'm sure" aspirant Sep 2015 #37
No, sorry. MineralMan Sep 2015 #51
Just what I thought, aspirant Sep 2015 #57
There are more than 10 red states treestar Sep 2015 #43
I have no problem with that prediction AND elleng Sep 2015 #3
I hope you are right, but I am not so confident still_one Sep 2015 #9
My unspoken assumption, still_one: elleng Sep 2015 #10
Excellent qualifier. Similar to a Jon Stewart assessment of what seems to be the Democratic still_one Sep 2015 #13
Yes, 'we' do it early and often. elleng Sep 2015 #15
Bernie: Yes Pope Sweet Jesus Sep 2015 #20
Pundits are often wrong ... Trajan Sep 2015 #4
Let me say this: Trajan Sep 2015 #6
Me too! peacebird Sep 2015 #19
Me too! I'm solid for Bernie all the way through to the marrow. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #35
Here's Why The South Poses A Huge Problem For Bernie Sanders still_one Sep 2015 #8
Man, the Hillary supporters like that article, this is the 5th thread I've seen it posted in today! peacebird Sep 2015 #24
They claimed in '08 it was going to be all about "National Security" between Hillary and Rudy. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #17
Funny how they created that narrative out of whole cloth. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #36
Now the narrative is acting like Bernie wants to eliminate private property..... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #40
Just like a true commie! Enthusiast Sep 2015 #42
The only house he will seize ... TheFarS1de Sep 2015 #45
But he'll give you back all the gunz that Obama seized! frylock Sep 2015 #54
Sadly, even Rachel Maddow picks the horse race over policy when elections are happening. cui bono Sep 2015 #18
"See? I can make a prediction too." left-of-center2012 Sep 2015 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #22
Usually I try to comment on a prior one. I'm not very smart and like to tag along. erronis Sep 2015 #23
Me: And he will ride a magical unicorn zappaman Sep 2015 #25
That was funny! Evergreen Emerald Sep 2015 #34
If Donald Trump can win the Republican nomination ... mhatrw Sep 2015 #55
I doubt George... 40RatRod Sep 2015 #27
2008 predictions that turned out wrong... Ino Sep 2015 #28
Your post is pure hysteria and paranoia. Please, take a chill pill. RBInMaine Sep 2015 #46
It was my speculative prediction. Ino Sep 2015 #48
I feel sorry for Hillary Clinton. For the last 16 years, she has done mhatrw Sep 2015 #56
Those were speculative predictions, not based on any kind of analytical system. RBInMaine Sep 2015 #47
Oh boy! Another Hillary is evil post. leftofcool Sep 2015 #49
I'm with you, homegirl Sep 2015 #31
Exactly. Nobody can predict the future. So we may as well go with what (or who) we think is right. reformist2 Sep 2015 #38
Bingo. That's my thoughts too. nt Duppers Sep 2015 #41
Bookmarking Thinkingabout Sep 2015 #52
Hint: there is no national election next November. nt longship Sep 2015 #53
Well, I hope so, but if Obama couldn't get 40 states WI_DEM Sep 2015 #58

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
14. Just the punditocracy, most of whom aren't even journalists, let alone scientists.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:13 PM
Sep 2015

They make a living being biased. No wonder they're always wrong.
 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
16. Yeah, there are also
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:16 PM
Sep 2015

many christian scientists. They must be like physicists or something, right?

mopinko

(70,023 posts)
26. that's doesnt make their untested and untestable assertions fact.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:51 PM
Sep 2015

that sci part is just a word. there aint to science in it anywhere. no hypothesis of any political "scientist" is testable or provable in the least.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
44. You're wasting your time trying to explain
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 06:46 PM
Sep 2015

a simple concept to someone who doesn't even understand the distinction between natural and social sciences, IMHO.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
33. Indeed, virtually all the pundits were pro-Iraq War
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 04:28 PM
Sep 2015

Along with a certain Democratic candidate who shall remain nameless.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
2. You may well be right.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 02:31 PM
Sep 2015

The vast bulk of Democrats tend to support the nominee in Presidential elections. Weak candidates, do lose, however, as we have seen on several occasions. I'm not sure whether Bernie Sanders would be one of those weak candidates on a national basis. However, given the poor-quality field of Republican possibilities, I think he could win. I doubt if it would be a 40 state landslide, though. Instead, it would be a very close election, I'm sure.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
29. I would like Bernie on the democratic ticket and Cruz on the republican side
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 04:02 PM
Sep 2015

I want to know once and for all which direction the country wants to go. All this back and forth is not helping. Let's have both sides put their money where their mouth is and settle this once and for all. Are we a left country or a right country. Voters decide.

aspirant

(3,533 posts)
37. "it would be avery close election, I'm sure"
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 04:57 PM
Sep 2015

Tell me exactly how you are "sure", include the verifiable scientific facts.

elleng

(130,768 posts)
3. I have no problem with that prediction AND
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 02:33 PM
Sep 2015

I further predict that whomever runs in the Dem party will attain a similar landslide due to the utter misery that is the repug party.

elleng

(130,768 posts)
10. My unspoken assumption, still_one:
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 02:46 PM
Sep 2015

that Dems won't do anything stupid around the General. I realize that may be a rash assumption. Just think of what happened to Al Gore (aside from repug thievery,) 'Don't go anywhere NEAR Bill Clinton!'

still_one

(92,061 posts)
13. Excellent qualifier. Similar to a Jon Stewart assessment of what seems to be the Democratic
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:13 PM
Sep 2015

strategy at times:

"Snatched defeat from the jaws of victory"

Hopefully that will be a very wrong assessment

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
4. Pundits are often wrong ...
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 02:33 PM
Sep 2015

Yeah, I know, hard to believe, but ...

They are never held to account for their wildly incorrect prognostications ...

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
6. Let me say this:
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 02:37 PM
Sep 2015

It is my solemn oath to push forward with the Bernie Sanders campaign until he wins the office of the Presidency of the United States of America, or fails to do so ...

I'm all in ... All fuckin in ... You hear that, Hillary? ... You hear that, DWS ?

ALL IN!

still_one

(92,061 posts)
8. Here's Why The South Poses A Huge Problem For Bernie Sanders
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 02:38 PM
Sep 2015

WASHINGTON -- Though Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is leading former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in successive polls of Democratic voters in New Hampshire and Iowa, his campaign faces significantly more difficult terrain outside those two states.

The problem for Sanders is a demographic one. In the South, where a number of states hold primaries in February and the first half of March, Clinton still has a lock on nonwhite Democrats. (A great table from FiveThirtyEight illustrates how Vermont and New Hampshire are especially unrepresentative of the Democratic electorate writ large, since the Democratic voters there are predominantly white and liberal.)

The demographics of base voters in Southern states could make all the difference for Clinton, whose team is already building a "firewall" to wrap up the nomination soon after Iowa and New Hampshire.

On March 1, primary voters in Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas and Virginia -- all states where Clinton is expected to come out ahead -- will go to the polls. Voters in Colorado, Massachusetts, Minnesota and Sanders' home state of Vermont will as well, and though Sanders has a chance of winning any of those states, their delegate counts pale in comparison to those in a larger state like Texas.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-nonwhite-voters_55fae616e4b0fde8b0cd427f

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
24. Man, the Hillary supporters like that article, this is the 5th thread I've seen it posted in today!
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:39 PM
Sep 2015

Mind you, I am not seeing them mention how Hillary cancelled her rally in Texas, but kept the fundraiser there... Guess they were afraid the itty bitty number of people who showed for the rally woild look bad..... Especially next to the thousands Bernie got across the south recently.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
40. Now the narrative is acting like Bernie wants to eliminate private property.....
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 05:10 PM
Sep 2015

Run away!!! Run away!!! He's gonna steal your house!!!

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
21. "See? I can make a prediction too."
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:38 PM
Sep 2015

That reminds me of the HC posts that claim all of Biden's support would go to HC if he doesn't enter the race,
and she'll lead Bernie 6 billion to 1 in the polls.

Response to reformist2 (Original post)

erronis

(15,185 posts)
23. Usually I try to comment on a prior one. I'm not very smart and like to tag along.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:39 PM
Sep 2015

But this just seems to be a dumb-ass topic in order to incite other comments. There is no way of winning or even making a winning comment.

Bernie, Hillary, Webb, Mallory - someone will represent the "liberal" voters.

The rest of the herd will be stampeding towards some media-elected dumb-ass.

Please, Republicans (and I use this respectfully), please bring forward an intelligent, open-minded, educated (sciences, etc.) individual who can take control of a very important organization. Please!

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
25. Me: And he will ride a magical unicorn
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:42 PM
Sep 2015

That farts rainbows to the inauguration.

Bookmark this!
I will be proved correct!



Ino

(3,366 posts)
28. 2008 predictions that turned out wrong...
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:57 PM
Sep 2015

How Wrong They Were
http://www.salon.com/2008/11/06/bad_prediction/

Here's my prediction: Hillary will do anything and everything, including dirty tricks, to win the nomination. Because if she doesn't, she's finished forever. She will pull out all the stops, including shutting down debates (done!). I don't think she'll get the nomination. But if she does, she is SURE to lose the general election, no matter who the Repukes go with.

She. Will. Not. Be. President. Ever.

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
56. I feel sorry for Hillary Clinton. For the last 16 years, she has done
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 04:42 AM
Sep 2015

every single thing she needed to do to become the President of the United States 16 years ago.

homegirl

(1,427 posts)
31. I'm with you,
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 04:13 PM
Sep 2015

it wasn't so long ago that they predicted a black man could not be elected president of the USA. And then it happened, TWICE!

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