2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumMe: If Bernie gets the nominaton he will shock the experts with a 40-state landslide next November.
See? I can make a prediction too. Will it be a national story? Probably not, because I'm not an establishment person.
I'm really getting sick of these establishment experts who are sounding the alarms, and together are acting like an echo chamber of worry and hysteria that their candidate might not get the nomination.
There are waaay too many pundits these days making headlines with their stupid predictions.
Remember when the news used to center on politicians' positions? I do. It wasn't that long ago, really. Believe it or not, kiddies, the news used to actually report where candidates stood on the issues, and not just scandals and what they used to call "the horse race."
SonderWoman
(1,169 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)SonderWoman
(1,169 posts)NASA experts or Koch bros?
reformist2
(9,841 posts)SonderWoman
(1,169 posts)And there are many poli-sci phd's.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)They make a living being biased. No wonder they're always wrong.
SonderWoman
(1,169 posts)bvf
(6,604 posts)many christian scientists. They must be like physicists or something, right?
mopinko
(70,023 posts)that sci part is just a word. there aint to science in it anywhere. no hypothesis of any political "scientist" is testable or provable in the least.
bvf
(6,604 posts)a simple concept to someone who doesn't even understand the distinction between natural and social sciences, IMHO.
mopinko
(70,023 posts)Vinca
(50,237 posts)C Moon
(12,210 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Along with a certain Democratic candidate who shall remain nameless.
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)The vast bulk of Democrats tend to support the nominee in Presidential elections. Weak candidates, do lose, however, as we have seen on several occasions. I'm not sure whether Bernie Sanders would be one of those weak candidates on a national basis. However, given the poor-quality field of Republican possibilities, I think he could win. I doubt if it would be a 40 state landslide, though. Instead, it would be a very close election, I'm sure.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)I want to know once and for all which direction the country wants to go. All this back and forth is not helping. Let's have both sides put their money where their mouth is and settle this once and for all. Are we a left country or a right country. Voters decide.
aspirant
(3,533 posts)Tell me exactly how you are "sure", include the verifiable scientific facts.
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)aspirant
(3,533 posts)your sureness is make believe, but at least you're sorry about it.
treestar
(82,383 posts)so you're right, the 40 states is impossible.
elleng
(130,768 posts)I further predict that whomever runs in the Dem party will attain a similar landslide due to the utter misery that is the repug party.
still_one
(92,061 posts)elleng
(130,768 posts)that Dems won't do anything stupid around the General. I realize that may be a rash assumption. Just think of what happened to Al Gore (aside from repug thievery,) 'Don't go anywhere NEAR Bill Clinton!'
still_one
(92,061 posts)strategy at times:
"Snatched defeat from the jaws of victory"
Hopefully that will be a very wrong assessment
elleng
(130,768 posts)Pope Sweet Jesus
(62 posts)Clinton, O'Malley or Biden: No.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)Yeah, I know, hard to believe, but ...
They are never held to account for their wildly incorrect prognostications ...
Trajan
(19,089 posts)It is my solemn oath to push forward with the Bernie Sanders campaign until he wins the office of the Presidency of the United States of America, or fails to do so ...
I'm all in ... All fuckin in ... You hear that, Hillary? ... You hear that, DWS ?
ALL IN!
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)still_one
(92,061 posts)WASHINGTON -- Though Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is leading former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in successive polls of Democratic voters in New Hampshire and Iowa, his campaign faces significantly more difficult terrain outside those two states.
The problem for Sanders is a demographic one. In the South, where a number of states hold primaries in February and the first half of March, Clinton still has a lock on nonwhite Democrats. (A great table from FiveThirtyEight illustrates how Vermont and New Hampshire are especially unrepresentative of the Democratic electorate writ large, since the Democratic voters there are predominantly white and liberal.)
The demographics of base voters in Southern states could make all the difference for Clinton, whose team is already building a "firewall" to wrap up the nomination soon after Iowa and New Hampshire.
On March 1, primary voters in Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas and Virginia -- all states where Clinton is expected to come out ahead -- will go to the polls. Voters in Colorado, Massachusetts, Minnesota and Sanders' home state of Vermont will as well, and though Sanders has a chance of winning any of those states, their delegate counts pale in comparison to those in a larger state like Texas.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-nonwhite-voters_55fae616e4b0fde8b0cd427f
peacebird
(14,195 posts)Mind you, I am not seeing them mention how Hillary cancelled her rally in Texas, but kept the fundraiser there... Guess they were afraid the itty bitty number of people who showed for the rally woild look bad..... Especially next to the thousands Bernie got across the south recently.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Run away!!! Run away!!! He's gonna steal your house!!!
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)TheFarS1de
(1,017 posts)Will be the White House
frylock
(34,825 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)That reminds me of the HC posts that claim all of Biden's support would go to HC if he doesn't enter the race,
and she'll lead Bernie 6 billion to 1 in the polls.
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erronis
(15,185 posts)But this just seems to be a dumb-ass topic in order to incite other comments. There is no way of winning or even making a winning comment.
Bernie, Hillary, Webb, Mallory - someone will represent the "liberal" voters.
The rest of the herd will be stampeding towards some media-elected dumb-ass.
Please, Republicans (and I use this respectfully), please bring forward an intelligent, open-minded, educated (sciences, etc.) individual who can take control of a very important organization. Please!
zappaman
(20,606 posts)That farts rainbows to the inauguration.
Bookmark this!
I will be proved correct!
Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)I laughed out loud.
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)40RatRod
(532 posts)...Washington could win 40 states as divided as everyone is now.
Ino
(3,366 posts)How Wrong They Were
http://www.salon.com/2008/11/06/bad_prediction/
Here's my prediction: Hillary will do anything and everything, including dirty tricks, to win the nomination. Because if she doesn't, she's finished forever. She will pull out all the stops, including shutting down debates (done!). I don't think she'll get the nomination. But if she does, she is SURE to lose the general election, no matter who the Repukes go with.
She. Will. Not. Be. President. Ever.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Ino
(3,366 posts)Deal with it.
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)every single thing she needed to do to become the President of the United States 16 years ago.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)homegirl
(1,427 posts)it wasn't so long ago that they predicted a black man could not be elected president of the USA. And then it happened, TWICE!
reformist2
(9,841 posts)Duppers
(28,117 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)even in 2008, I doubt that Bernie would.