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portlander23

(2,078 posts)
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 12:59 PM Sep 2015

NPR: Why Hillary Clinton May Not Have The Female Vote Locked Up

Why Hillary Clinton May Not Have The Female Vote Locked Up

"Right now I am torn between Bernie and Hillary," said Elizabeth Fiske, a sophomore at the University of New Hampshire. She recently came out to see Clinton talk about college affordability. Fiske is a women's studies major and says her friends keep talking about Bernie Sanders, the Vermont independent. She likes what she hears — which is causing some angst.

"I think he has a lot of good ideas, but at the same time I feel kind of guilty for not supporting Hillary because she is a woman," she said. "Because I feel like I should be 'oh we could have a women in a position of power that's really good.' But at the same time, I feel like it shouldn't matter and I should support the politics of it and not the gender or the identity."

There's a sense especially among younger women that it doesn't have to be Clinton. If it doesn't happen now, they are sure it will happen in their lifetime. But it's not just the college set.

For mother of three Elizabeth Webber, who supports Clinton, the "woman thing" has very little to do with her feelings about the candidate.

"I think she honestly has the experience and the tenacity to get the job done," she said. "I love what she did when she was secretary of state and we need that."

And Webber's three adult daughters tell the story of this campaign right now. One supports Clinton. One supports Sanders. And one is still trying to decide.


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Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
2. It's a very odd thing to say...
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 01:15 PM
Sep 2015

But then I can't say I was particularly impressed with the US response to the Arab Spring...

frylock

(34,825 posts)
3. I'd like to see the follow-up to that asking what specifically she loved about Clinton..
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 02:42 PM
Sep 2015

while she was with the State Dept. I recall polling done several months ago that had people saying that her experience at State was part of why they were supporting her, but when asked to provide details as to what it was that she did there that impressed them, they failed to come up with any specifics.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
4. People seem to treat it like a checkbox,
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 02:46 PM
Sep 2015

much like they treat her time in the Senate. People cite it, then seem utterly unfamiliar with what she actually did while holding either job.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
5. Agreed, the Presidency of course being the Lifetime Achievement Award..
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 02:52 PM
Sep 2015

she's earned it, after all.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
7. "I feel kind of guilty for not supporting Hillary because she is a woman"
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 02:59 PM
Sep 2015

So is Fiorina. Does Ms. Fiske feel guilty about not supporting her, too?

Yikes.

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beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
14. I was just going to post that!
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 03:18 PM
Sep 2015
. All Your Female Base Are Belong to Clinton (and Will Always Belong to Clinton). Period.


My favourite part was where she compared women who'll vote for Bernie to those who would vote for David Duke.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
15. "....fine, but EXCEPT for the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads,
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 03:21 PM
Sep 2015

the fresh-water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?"

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
12. She doesn't have this female voter's vote locked up.
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 03:13 PM
Sep 2015

Unless she wins the primary. But until then I'm leaning toward the Sanders camp.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
17. She had a 29-pt drop in support from Democratic women in 8 weeks.
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 03:33 PM
Sep 2015
Clinton’s support erodes sharply among Democratic women.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/poll-sharp-erosion-in-clinton-support-among-democratic-women/2015/09/14/6406e2a0-58c3-11e5-b8c9-944725fcd3b9_story.html

COLUMBUS, Ohio — Hillary Rodham Clinton is suffering a rapid erosion of support among Democratic women — the voters long presumed to be the bedrock in her bid to become the nation’s first female president.

The numbers in a new Washington Post-ABC News poll are an alarm siren: Where 71 percent of Democratic-leaning female voters said in July that they expected to vote for Clinton, only 42 percent do now, a drop of 29 percentage points in eight weeks.

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The steep decline among women, which is sharpest among whites, is the main force driving the poll’s overall numbers, which show support for Hillary Clinton falling from 63 percent in July to 42 percent now among Democratic-leaning voters. Her numbers among women have declined to the point where they are about even with her share among men.

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