Author Anne Rice goes from "Old Guard Hillary supporter" to Bernie Sanders

[Catherina]

https://www.facebook.com/annericefanpage/posts/10153701473200452



The comments are priceless. Women jumping ship! "All your votes belong to us" doesn't seem to be working so well. Looks like the Uppity Women vote is going to Bernie and once you go Bernie, you can't go back.

[leftofcool]

1. Good for her. She turned out to be a nice Christian lady.

[artislife]

3. What does that mean?

a nice Christian lady in the context of switching candidates. Really is a head scratcher.

[leftofcool]

4. No, a nice Christian lady after writing porn for a while.

Although some would call it more erotic which I have no problem with.

[cali]

6. nice, kind people write pornography too. And elephant the hell

does being Christian have to do with being nice?

[merrily]

41. We may be seeing another victim of Sanders perennial snark desperation syndrome, or SPSDS.

In essence, it's an obsessive need to snark at anything, no matter how insignificant and/or banal, connected with Bernie Sanders, however remotely, even if nothing that actually makes sense comes to mind.

Psychiatric professionals sometimes describe PSDS as "Obsessively flinging any kind of poo at a wall, desperately trying to get some of it to stick somewhere."

Perhaps saddest of all, it's not covered by Obamacare, the disease having been unknown in 2009, when current suffers of SPSDS were praising Sanders. This just shows how many poor souls desperately need to vote for Bernie for President in 2016, even if they can't see that.

To single payer and a full and speedy healing for all sufferers from SPSDS!

[Android3.14]

66. Temporary relief can be gained by donating to the Sanders campaign

Persons who do this find that colors appear brighter, people seem nicer, and there is a feeling of actually having contributed to something worthwhile.

[merrily]

67. Well done.

[Duval]

69. Hilarious, merrily!! eom

[merrily]

70. Glad you enjoyed it. I rather enjoyed it myself, so I did a version for the Sanders Group.

[artislife]

7. She wrote those vampire books,no?

Never got into Vampires, but I don't mind Anais Nin if that is what you mean by erotica/porn.

[m-lekktor]

8. and she just wrote another "porn" book to add to her Beauty SM series relatively recently.

She is no fundie if that is what you are trying to imply, I have been reading her posts daily for about 3 years or so on facebook. she does nothing but support left positions and critiicize right wingers. she blocked a bunch of homophobes from posting on her wall awhile back.

[sabrina 1]

28. She evolved apparently. I thought that was a good thing?

[Betty Karlson]

35. The one does not exclude the other.

The Bible prohibits prostitution, not writing about consenting adults.

[merrily]

42. Well.....Mary Magdalene.

[Betty Karlson]

49. Mary stopped being one thing and became the other.

Christ had a way with seeing people's true potential. Hers wasn't on her back.

[merrily]

51. Please point me to the book, chapter and verse that says about Magdalene what your post says.

That she stopped prostituting and never returned to it.

[Betty Karlson]

58. It does not say so, but it is assumed because of Marc 16:9

This states that Mary Magdalene had been cured by Jesus of "seven bad spirits". Since women with addictions and other health problems were often cast out by their families, they were often also driven into protitution. Since Christ had cured her, she was no longer an outcast - and in fact was taken in my Mary the mother of Joses - which is why they were together at Christ's grave. If she had been driven to protitution, her new social network was likely to keep her out of it.

[merrily]

59. IOW, the Bible doesn't say she stopped prostituting or that she never went back to it.

I think the message of Jesus loving Magdalene and her utter devotion to him is so much bigger if both loves existed despite everything else. JMO

In any event, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone," was not dependent on the repentance or future purity of the adulterous woman being stoned by the town hypocrites. He did say, "Go and sin no more," but that was not a condition of the loving rescue (nor with human behavior--we "sin." It's what we do.)

[Betty Karlson]

60. The Bible never even calls her a prostitute by name. n/t

[merrily]

61. Not in its current version, no. But it did say that the woman being stoned was an adultress.

(Different woman, I know.) Yet, Jesus (or the Jesus character, for those who don't believe he existed) rescues her from the town hypocrites. Point is, the love is bigger than the "sin."

Also that, in the Bible, one can find/interpret almost anything.

[Betty Karlson]

63. I think that you put too much into the adultress passage:

That may have been nothing more than a girl sleeping with her boyfriend while her parents had betrothed her to another man.

And indeed, biblical interpretation is tough. But I believe that with a diachronical approach, most trapfalls of misinterpretative theology may be avoided. And I say this as someone who has enjoyed academic education in that field.

[merrily]

73. There's nothing in my post that the Bible does not say.

You seem to have made some assumptions about what I was thinking when I wrote that post, but I was not breaking it down in any way beyond adultress. Nor does the Bible or the Judaism of that time give us any reason to do that. A miss was as good as a mile, as the saying goes. Hence, when the clergy of the day brought up the disciples picking corn on the Sabbath--and not their own crop, either--it's no excuse to them that the disciples were hungry.

But, as I said, it's like poetry. Each of us is entitled to interpret it, as long as the interpretation is not off the wall.

[merrily]

52. Seems you do have a problem or you wouldn't leap to mention these things within

minutes of an OP about Rice going up.

[BeanMusical]

80. Pathetic smear attempt.

[Uncle Joe]

20. This is porn, although it wasn't written.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251607105

[questionseverything]

32. yes it is n/t

[Iggo]

26. Okay, that's enough.

[ibegurpard]

2. I love Anne

I follow her pretty regularly on Facebook and her opinion always seems to be pretty much in the mainstream of "liberal" thought. I've seen her expressing her support for Hillary numerous times. I love the fact that she's showing some admiration for Bernie.

[Catherina]

36. And she's standing firm against rude, petulant, Clinton camp bullying.

(name redacted) The majority of your fans support Hillary Clinton. You have caved to a very vocal mob who represent a small minority of ill-informed idiots. Bernie Sanders is a misogynistic malcontent who has nothing to offer but the chance to give the White House and SCOTUS back to the GOP. You have made a serious error in judgment trying to appease a handful of noisy know-nothings. Very disappointing.

Anne Rice I'm afraid you've got it all wrong. When people began posting enthusiastically about Bernie Sanders on this page, I looked into the matter. I liked what I read. You're mistaken in believing that the majority of my "fans" as you call them, support Hillary Clinton. They don't. They support Sanders, obviously, and this made me curious. Genuinely curious. And you're mistaken in believing that I would ever try to "appease" anyone when it comes to my support for a political candidate. I'm 73 years old. I don't "appease" anybody when it comes to my political beliefs. You live in a world very different from my world. In my world questions of political support have to do with conscience, integrity, commitment. And there are no "fans." There are readers, people of the page, people who contribute here and engage here. You come across as deeply cynical. And you're mistaken in assuming and asserting that I've made a "mistake." I've expressed opinions. That's the long and short of it. I don't know you, and you certainly don't know me. And you don't know the people who post on this page, obviously.
...
People who insult others by calling them idiots are generally banned from this page.

(name redacted) Go ahead and ban me then, but TeaBerners are flocking to the pages of every celebrity that endorses Hillary to try to change their minds. They aren't fans, they are zealots, and I guess that makes you somewhat of a desperado if you're that influenced by a sudden flurry of attention.

https://www.facebook.com/annericefanpage/posts/10153702413625452

[Uncle Joe]

38. That was a great rebuttal.

[merrily]

43. And from facebook posters utterly lacking in honesty, self awareness and any sense at all of irony.

Trying to excuse their vileness by claiming "Supporters of Sanders did it first." Like three year olds.

[ibegurpard]

65. Oh dear

That just can't be...

It has to be a false-flag Bernie-supporter operation going on. After all EVERYONE KNOWS that only those vicious Volvo-driving, latte-sipping miscreants are the ones who engage in that sort of online "bullying"...

[madaboutharry]

5. I follow her on Facebook and this is very shocking.

She has been a loyal supporter of Hillary through thick and thin. This is a really very stunning. She is urging people to donate to Bernie's campaign so that he will make it to the White House.

[Catherina]

9. She sure was. But Bernie is getting her first donation in a long time

"It's been a while since I've donated too. I was kind of crushed when Hillary did not prevail. I kind of dropped out of politics pretty much, though of course voted for Obama's second term. But this is my first donation to anybody in a long time."

https://www.facebook.com/annericefanpage/posts/10153701473200452?comment_id=10153701564125452&reply_comment_id=10153701762320452&total_comments=21&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R9%22%7D

[m-lekktor]

11. I am also one of the "people of the page" as she calls us and i saw this earlier today.

I just assumed she was still a Hillary supporter who decided to also contribute money to Bernie, I didnt take it as saying she supports Bernie now because i know what a diehard HIllary supporter she has claimed to be! I guess I was wrong.

[merrily]

44. Apparently Democrats no longer have a democratic right to vote their

conscience in a Democratic Party. Damn, but that shift key is powerful!

[SonderWoman]

10. Don't worry, Ann. We won't throw you under the bus like Bernie fans do to everyone else.

Good luck with everything.

[AlbertCat]

33. We won't throw you under the bus like Bernie fans do to everyone else.

As usual....


What are you talking about? And why can't you stop using superlatives all the time.... "everyone else'...sheesh.


Hyper-Hyperbole ... again....

Who can take it seriously?

[leftofcool]

54. Howard Dean Jane Goodall

[AlbertCat]

71. Howard Dean Jane Goodall

Everybody else? That's it for everybody else?

And Dean is the only one that really matters (sorta).... and was disagreed with and fostered disappointment, not thrown under some bus.

Like I said.... Hyperbole double plus good. Not worth taking such hysteria seriously.

[Puglover]

75. Yeah.

Back in High School many folks were incapable in making a declaration without saying "everyone says" or "all my friends think" and around here that has evolved to "all kinds of people PMed me and they think..."

Give me a break. That behavior is right up there with "Someone said" from a shoddy news person.

[Metric System]

12. Well she won't have to worry about her Facebook page being swarmed and attacked.

[frylock]

17. Unlike Dr. Dean, who was relentlessy attacked on his page..

but only if find mild disagreement to be an attack.

[merrily]

48. "I was disappointed to learn of your endorsement of Secretary Clinton" is a vicious attack.

[frylock]

74. That's about what it boils down to.

[sabrina 1]

29. Only Bernie has to worry about attacked, by unethical political operatives like David Brock. At

least Hillary never has to worry about the Sanders Campaign sneakily using Super Paks to play political dirty tricks. Everything his campaign has to say will be about issues. He has consistently defended Hillary. She still hasn't condemned that vile attack by her Super Pac, has she?

It's going to a nasty campaign against Bernie from what we've seen already so early in the race.

[merrily]

50. She has not condemned the smear from the PAC with which she can LEGALLY coordinate, and

she has not disassociated herself from it. She has not done that as to any smear attempt by her surrogates and allies. And she has not made an unequivocal commitment to refrain from attacks in the future, either direct or via her surrogates and allies. Or, by releases to media, as done in 2008 with photos of Obama in African garb, videotapes of Wright, etc.

[99Forever]

64. Dirty campaigners gotta campaign dirty.

It's in their DNA.

[merrily]

45. Please see Reply 36, above. Thanks.

[oasis]

13. Okaaay. Why not?

[DrBulldog]

14. After the summer of 2009 when I was one of the first to see the incredible flip-flop . . .

. . . and betrayal of Barack Obama, I vowed I'd never contribute to a campaign again. Never.

Well, I just sent in my FOURTH contribution to Bernie this week.

[WillyT]

15. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!

[NewJeffCT]

16. I thought Rice was a Republican?

or, has she changed her views over the years? I remember I loved Interview with the Vampire and liked The Vampire Lestat, but then later read that she was a Republican, so I never read anything more from her when I heard she put out some book about Jesus.

[Catherina]

18. Democrat since I've been aware of her politics

I think you can start reading her again

[Flatpicker]

27. From what I remember

And I'll be the 1st to admit that I'm not big on her vampires.

She got hit hard when her husband died and veered off heavily into religion as a support system.
That's when those Jesus books came out. I think she even tried to disavow her old writing for a time.

Something must have happened a few years ago, because she's gone back to her old characters recently.
Glad to see she is back. Like I said, I'm not a big fan of the work, but it's nice to see that she didn't fall into a fundamentalist mindset when her personal life bottomed out.

[NewJeffCT]

68. thanks for the explanation

I did a bit of research on my own afterwards and that seems to be it. So, it was a temporary turn to religion, which I can understand following the death of a spouse. My aunt did similar after her husband passed away 20+ years ago. She was already an active churchgoer, but turned it up to 11 following his death. Not an "in your face" type, but a person that centered her life around church and church activities.

[ybbor]

19. Well this can't be correct ...

Bernie only relates to old, white, racist men from the northeast. Hmm...

Feel the Bern people!

[merrily]

47. Lots of females in the Bernie Sanders Group, though!

[AzDar]

21. This is how President Sanders is going to happen!

Bernie!!

[RufusTFirefly]

22. Interesting (telling?) typo...

(In the last sentence.)

[Catherina]

37. damn spellcheck! n/t

[cantbeserious]

23. Excellent News - As Things Should Be

eom

[zentrum]

24. If she's lost Ann Rice...

……she's lost the election, should she be the candidate.

[kelliekat44]

25. Really??? You don't really know for whom Ann Rice will vote when the curtain is closed. nt

[zentrum]

30. That's not the point.

For Democrats to win we need a huge turnout. That's how it works under Repub gerrymandering. The base needs to be enthusiastic and turn out in huge numbers and be willing to wait on lines for hours if the polling places pull their usual pranks in red states.

Ergo, if Rice has lost confidence in HRC, HRC could lose the election for Democrats.

Yes, those who really understand that we can't have a Republican WH, will hold their noses and vote for her. But we need the people who aren't as invested in politics as those on DU to be willing to get to the polls.

[jalan48]

31. I agree completely.

Hillary needs enthusiasm in her campaign. Unfortunately, the enthusiastic people are on the other side.

[merrily]

55. To be fair, a former Hillary supporter like Rice would have no problem voting for her in a general.

The things that turned me away from Hillary occurred years before Sanders announced and I would have to wrestle myself to the ground in a general if I were in a state politically like Louisiana. They made it even redder by moving Katrina survivors out of state.

[merrily]

46. So, Rice is lying about switching from Hillary to Sanders? Why?

My sweet Lord! The stuff that gets posted here!

[SoapBox]

34. Tip of the iceberg...

She's part of the Sanderstorm.

[Enthusiast]

39. Kicked and recommended!

Thank you, Catherina!

[mhatrw]

40. Women are smarter. n/t

[Admiral Loinpresser]

57. +1 n/t

[merrily]

56. Thank you, Ms. Rice. Thanks, Catherina!

[Helen Borg]

62. Is Lestat gonna contribute too?

[homegirl]

72. Pre dates Marx and Lenin

"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

My favorite Quote of the Day.

[lark]

76. Damn, don't you just love it when your artistic heros turn out to have good judgement too!!

Anne Rice and Marsha Ball are 2 artists in 2 different genres that I've followed and loved for ages, and now I find out both are also very progressive and are Bernie supporters.

[Dont call me Shirley]

77. Bernie has got this Uppity Woman's vote too!

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

78. Anyone that goes to Bernie won't leave

They went to Bernie because they became aware of information they find irrefutable. And there is no reasonable refutation to the fact that the billionaire class buying the entire country.

That's why I feel very suspicious when I see Bernie go down in the polls relative to Hillary. It simply doesn't make any common sense.

[bvar22]

79. Being from New Orleans myself,

I've always admired Anne Rich.

A word of warning for those who cross Anne Rice,
don't ever go to sleep, or you will wake up with no blood in your body.
Truth!

Better to just sign up for Bernie today,
or face the consequences.

Worth repeating:
"Bernie Sanders is something America NEEDS, right now!"


Thank You Anne Rice.

[Moonwalk]

81. A False Authority Argument? Really?

...I mean, I understand posting this as a "this person is with us, rah! rah!" sort of thing, and if that's what it is, then, okay. But if this is supposed to get me to vote for Sanders, then it's epic fail. Putting it another way, if I wanted advice on how to write a vampire book, than I'd trust her authority as she knows a lot on the subject. But exactly what are her qualitfications when it comes to picking a presidential candidate? Is she any more an authority than I am?

Of course, the biggest problem with posting things like this as if to say "Anne Rice supports Bernie, so you should too!" is that if, like me, you have always hated her work, and thought her a lousy writer with no artistic talent whatsoever...do REALLY want me to reject Bernie Sanders because of the view I hold of Ann Rice as a writer? If no, then why would you want anyone who likes Anne Rice to choose Bernie Sanders because of that? So far, all I see in such posts, from either side, is a bunch of children saying "Nah, nah we've got..."

It bores and saddens me.