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riversedge

(70,191 posts)
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 11:58 AM Sep 2015

With @HillaryClinton and the Pope on board, the climate movement has wind in its sails

May the Force be with the US in trying to halt climate change



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With Clinton and the Pope on board, the climate movement has wind in its sails
Tuesday’s announcement that Hillary Clinton opposes Keystone XL might not be a miracle, but it’s a step in the right direction



Tuesday 22 September 2015 17.49 EDT


....Early on Tuesday morning, Divest-Invest announced at press conference in New York that the new total of assets in endowments and portfolios divesting from fossil fuels has topped $2.6t. That’s a 50-fold increase on last year’s number – and the year before that, we had precisely one college on board, with an endowment of $13 million.

That news might have passed somewhat unnoticed except that a handsome lad by the name of Leonardo DeCaprio announced at the same time that he was divesting his own assets and those of his charitable foundation – which for some reason seemed of interest to our planet’s news media, go figure.

And then, literally as the papal plane landed, Hillary Clinton completed her long-running metamorphosis on the Keystone pipeline. Before the pipeline review even began, many long years ago, she said she was “inclined to approve” this fuse to one of the planet’s biggest carbon bombs. But as KXL turned into the defining environmental fight of the decade, she went mum. And now, faced with the clear understanding that climate will be a defining issue in next year’s election, she came out in firm opposition to the plan.

It’s not really divine intervention that moved the former Secretary of State (who had originally gamed the State Department review process to approve the project). It was hard hard organizing – thousands went to jail, hundreds of thousands marched, millions wrote public comments. And that work has gone far beyond this one pipeline: its helped turn almost every fossil fuel infrastructure project on the planet into a full-on battle................


http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/sep/24/hillary-clinton-unveils-her-masterplan-to-make-us-clean-energy-superpower

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With @HillaryClinton and the Pope on board, the climate movement has wind in its sails (Original Post) riversedge Sep 2015 OP
She peddled fracking FFS, not particularly environmentally friendly. AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #1
Hillary supports fracking Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2015 #21
HRC spoke and negotiated at Copenhagen Climate Summit in 2009. Do you need Hortensis Sep 2015 #29
I am an anti-fracking voter Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2015 #30
The pope speaks about poverty while dooming millions of women and children to a lifetime of poverty beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #31
LOL azmom Sep 2015 #2
Is she finished evolving on fracking? Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #3
perhaps wind-in-sails was a poor idiom to use considering the implication. aidbo Sep 2015 #7
To me it means Hillary has the mojo. riversedge Sep 2015 #13
Righteous! McCamy Taylor Sep 2015 #4
K and R--and thanks riversedge Sep 2015 #5
the gop is already pushing back restorefreedom Sep 2015 #6
@HillaryClinton #CleanFracking frylock Sep 2015 #8
Kinda like #drinkable sand Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #9
Only if the sand isn't flammable or toxic. winter is coming Sep 2015 #11
is that like #Prisonlobbyistmoney to @improvethedrugwar? Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #27
Seriously? Metamorphosis?? Avalux Sep 2015 #10
There is a lot of hot wind in those sails. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #12
well, it is the hot air that will make the balloon go higher. riversedge Sep 2015 #15
The pro-fracking candidate? Seriously? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #14
That all you got. Mocking once again! riversedge Sep 2015 #20
#thingsberniesaidfirst Fawke Em Sep 2015 #16
Hillary: "Coal isn’t going away" Cheese Sandwich Sep 2015 #17
Oh honey, honey ..... ronnykmarshall Sep 2015 #18
chuckle. riversedge Sep 2015 #22
Now mockery is suddenly OK arcane1 Sep 2015 #26
OMG! I am so glad you are back! leftofcool Sep 2015 #23
#thingsberniesaidfirst come to mind. I'm just not sure I remember Bernie pushing fracking Autumn Sep 2015 #19
Plus - The Sierra Club has praised her energy plan, too. MineralMan Sep 2015 #24
The Sierra Club? ronnykmarshall Sep 2015 #28
Has she actually changed her name to her twitter handle, now? Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #25

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
29. HRC spoke and negotiated at Copenhagen Climate Summit in 2009. Do you need
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 07:34 PM
Sep 2015

me to once again post all those links to SOME of her other climate activities in various years? Perhaps you missed them when I posted them yesterday?

"...struggle between the issue’s two lead protagonists – the United States and China. The two sparred before the press and remained deadlocked behind closed doors until nearly the end.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who arrived ahead of President Obama, upped the pressure by declaring U.S. support for the goal of $100 billion a year for developing countries, an offer that many African and small-island countries did not want to let slip by. It was only then that Chinese Vice Foreign Minister He Yafei appeared to concede on U.S. demands that its actions be open to some form of international scrutiny.

President Obama closed the deal the next day in a meeting with Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao, Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula, and South African President Jacob Zuma, He then announced the tentative agreement to the press and headed home, leaving other leaders to consider the terms, and weary negotiators to devise the final procedural maneuvers."

[link:http://www.c2es.org/international/negotiations/cop-15/summary|

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
31. The pope speaks about poverty while dooming millions of women and children to a lifetime of poverty
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 07:57 PM
Sep 2015

I don't take lip service from politicians seriously when their actions speak louder than their words.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
6. the gop is already pushing back
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 03:13 PM
Sep 2015

some gop congressman was on after the pope's speech. he presented himself as some uber Catholic and he said that the pope is allowed to have opinions on non doctrinal subjects but catholics don't have to necessarily agree with him like for example climate change.

how convenient. another cafeteria Catholic.

they are never gonna change.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
10. Seriously? Metamorphosis??
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 03:29 PM
Sep 2015


Key sentence from the article:

"And now, faced with the clear understanding that climate will be a defining issue in next year’s election, she came out in firm opposition to the plan."

Her decision was nothing more than a political calculation, not a conviction. But hey, I guess whatever works, for the moment.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
14. The pro-fracking candidate? Seriously?
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 04:26 PM
Sep 2015

Mother Earth just called, she read the title of your op but I couldn't understand what she was saying about it because she was laughing so hard.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
17. Hillary: "Coal isn’t going away"
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 08:04 PM
Sep 2015

Hillary Clinton: Coal isn’t going away

The presidential contender says we should look into "clean coal," but she can't promise she would never support "dirty" energy.

What role will coal play in your plan?

I think we have got to take a hard look at clean coal. I have advocated carbon sequestration, I have advocated power plants looking for ways to use coal more cleanly and efficiently. I doubt very much that using coal in liquid form for transportation could ever pass the environmental test, but I am willing to do the research to prove it one way or another.

The political pressure [to use coal] will remain intense, and I think you have got to admit that coal — of which we have a great and abundant supply in America — is not going away. So how do we best manage the possibility of using clean coal, but having very strict environmental standards? It is not going to do us any good if we substitute one dirty energy source for another.
http://www.salon.com/2007/08/20/clinton_qa/

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
25. Has she actually changed her name to her twitter handle, now?
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:00 PM
Sep 2015

because I'm sorry, I don't think it's going to help her look more hip with the young folks.



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