Quinnipiac poll vs GOP - Big concern w/ voters over 50yo

[LettuceSea]

Let's stop the fan club crap for a second, and look at something that should concern all of us.

Yes, it's early, but ALL of our candidates and potential candidates are getting their ass kicked with voters above 50. The only time we eek out victories, most within the MoE, is if it's Bernie/Biden vs Trump.

On the flip side, we crush pretty much every matchup with voters 18-34. But they don't vote, soo....

Start with page 6 on the poll. Doesn't matter who we run or who they run...we've got problems that need to be fixed.

[link:http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/us/us09242015_ui47mfb.pdf|

[DemocratSinceBirth]

1. I wouldn't hang my hat on the quinn poll

From September 17 – 21, Quinnipiac University surveyed 1,574 registered voters
nationwide with a margin of error of +/- 2.5 percentage points. Live interviewers call land lines
and cell phones. The survey includes 737 Republicans with a margin of error of +/- 3.6
percentage points and 587 Democrats with a margin of error of +/- 4 percentage points

[LettuceSea]

2. That is a good point...

I was concerned about where the votes were coming from, but I misread it:

The Quinnipiac University Poll, directed by Douglas Schwartz, Ph.D., conducts public opinion surveys in Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Florida, Ohio, Virginia, Iowa, Colorado and the nation as a public service and for research.

So this is a nationwide poll ('and the nation') or is it skewed more towards the listed states?

[magical thyme]

6. the last option on the list says "the nation," so unless it specifies a state, it's national. nt

[LettuceSea]

7. Good deal, ty

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. It's a nat'l poll...It's just a very Republican sample...

Almost every survey suggests there are more Democrats than Republicans, not vice versa, like the quinn polls.

[Mass]

3. What are the size and MOE for each subsample.

Quite often, people give % for subsamples with MOE in the 10 to 20 %. These numbers are meaningless.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. The MOE is fine and I don't want to become the unskewed guy...

The MOE is fine and I don't want to become the unskewed guy... But that is a very Republican leaning sample.

[Mass]

10. Well, you just did that a few posts above.

As for the MOE on any subsample, nobody knows what it is. Anyway, I do not want to unskew anything. I'd just wish that people stop looking at each poll as it they were significant. And if they do, can we hope they know how to read them.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. I am looking for the sweet spot between a healthy skepticism and a naive embrace of all data.

I was referring to the MOE for the entire sample and the Republican and Democratic subsamples.

[99th_Monkey]

4. Slight correction

"voters 18-34 .. don't vote" UNLESS they are bonkers-excited about their candidate.

[6chars]

9. remember oldsmobile?

i'd rather have this demographic problem than the opposite. easier to get out the vote than to create more 50+ers. In the general, there is a good chance the Democratic nominee will be older than the Republican nominee, so the actual matchup may work more to our favor in the 50+ crowd anyway.