Latest released poll all but confirms that the "Sanders Surge" is over:

[George II]

From Huffington Pollster:

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-national-democratic-primary

Fox (9/20-9/22) Clinton 44, Sanders 30, Biden 18

Previous:

Fox (8/11-8/13) Clinton 49, Sanders 30, Biden 10

Clinton dropped only 5 points with Biden gaining 8 points. Sanders is stagnant.

[virtualobserver]

1. but apparently the "Clinton Plummet" isn't over

down 5.......we will see after the debate

[upaloopa]

6. The plummet is the result of adding Biden

[virtualobserver]

10. Biden wasn't added....he was in the previous poll as well

Biden is rising.....hardly a good sign for Hillary

[dixiegrrrrl]

21. The fact he was sent in as relief hitter is a bad sign for Hillary.

Is he officially in, or still "testing the waters"?
Last I read he was waiting to a bit later in the fall to declare.

[virtualobserver]

23. not officially, but Hillary keeps dropping

Biden is rising with very little effort......

The first debate will tell us a lot.

[George II]

39. Before we know it, Sanders will be mired deeply in third place.

[virtualobserver]

45. Hillary is steadily dropping, not Bernie

[George II]

38. IF Biden runs, which is looking increasingly doubtful (although he's still way behind Clinton)

[neverforget]

2. It's a marathon not a sprint. Plenty of time for things to change for

the better or worse for any of the candidates.

[upaloopa]

9. At some point there won't be plenty of time

I think it is Iowa

[roguevalley]

30. I will remember you when he wins Iowa. :D

[George II]

40. I think the "plenty of time" runs out in two weeks after the first debate.

[arcane1]

3. Then you need not bother posting anything else about him.

It would just be a waste of time

[ibegurpard]

4. OK

[ram2008]

5. Yet a poll just released shows Bernie up 16 in New Hampshire

http://m.wmur.com/politics/wmurcnn-poll-sanders-holds-big-lead-over-clinton-biden-key-factor/35469662

Whoops. Lol!

[George II]

41. The New Hampshire primary is only worth 24 delegates, of which Sanders will get less than half....

....

It takes 2242 delegates to win the nomination.

That leaves only 2230 to go!

[Brock Kentman]

54. And as of right now, Hillary has exactly zero delegates.

Superdelegates only get one vote each and can switch at any point.

[jfern]

7. It's over until next week

[tularetom]

8. That poll tells me that support for Clinton is dropping 5 points per month

In ten months her support will be zero (actually -1) while Sanders will still be at 30.

You want to draw silly ass conclusions from polls? Others can do that too.

[cherokeeprogressive]

11. Close your eyes and listen...

[reddread]

12. what surge?

that starts in about three weeks.
surge wont quite cover it.
people who wanted to end this race before it began will be ended first.
hows it go? by their own petard?

[pa28]

13. I keep hearing about pleateaus and topped out poll number for Sanders. Yet I see this:

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Every time I read a reasoned analysis on DU explaining why Sanders' poll numbers have peaked they only seem to rise further against Clinton's.

[workinclasszero]

14. Bernie hit his peak in Iowa and NH

I don't think hes a national candidate. He still has very little appeal to the base of the democratic party.

[cascadiance]

28. YOUR OPINION...

Not everyone considers the base the 1% donors that you seem to be measuring that he has little appeal with!

[artislife]

44. Look at that graphic that is about to fall on your post. nt

[Fawke Em]

15. Meh. People with more polling acuman than you have said the same thing.

And they were wrong, too.

[Bonhomme Richard]

16. OK. I guess I can go home now. n/t

[magical thyme]

17. I think October will be a great month for Bernie

not so much for Hillary, who's plummet will continue.

[virtualobserver]

18. Chafee is a nice guy, maybe he'll break her fall

[restorefreedom]

19. oh no, stagnant!

weeks before the first debate and months before the first vote....

whatever will we do?

[AgingAmerican]

20. His surge wont even begin until the debates start

At which point he will quickly overtake her.

[Tom Rinaldo]

22. A pivitol moment

Sanders has more than achieved what he needed to at this stage of the race. He established himself as far more than the "protest" or "fringe" candidate that some wanted to box him in as. He raised significant amounts of money enabling him to hire substantial field staff in some of the early states. He has mobilized a large army of volunteers working on his behalf. He is ow WAY ahead in NH. What happens if he has a strong debate performance in a few weeks?

[m-lekktor]

24. That's when I will take polls more seriously.

I hope you are right!

[ronnykmarshall]

25. Prepare for incoming .........

The only polls that matter are the ones that show Bernie in the lead. Haven't you read the rules around here?

[roguevalley]

31. I hear there's a hillary board somewhere where they call people

assholes and quicksanders. You can always go there.

[ronnykmarshall]

34. oh I'm sorry ... am being sent to back of the bus?

Quicksanders? What is that? I don't recall calling Bernie folks that OR assholes. So let me understand this ... it's FINE for Bernie supporters to attack every poll in support of Hillary, but not the same when there is a pro-Hillary poll. Please provide me with the rules so I'll make sure to print them out and and find just the right place to stick them.

[Fearless]

50. Are you suggesting that a poster is racebaiting?

[ronnykmarshall]

59. uh no .......

[immoderate]

26. Perhaps signifying the end of -- STAGE ONE!!

--imm

[George II]

42. Yes, you have it. And not too far in the future it will be, "exit stage left"!

[leftofcool]

27. Boy did you miss the memo!

One may not post good Hillary polls in any DU forum. I think the new rule came with the new overlords.

[roguevalley]

32. You really need to work on this. You do not showcase your side very

well with poor me posts. Tell people why you want her, not moan about polls that really don't count until after the first debate. Truly.

[Brock Kentman]

37. Funny thing...I haven't seen one single good polls for Clinton

All indications she'll crash and burn, just like she did in 2008. No nomination path for Clinton at all, and she lost it a long time ago.

[George II]

43. You haven't seen one single good poll(s) [sic] for Clinton?

I suppose every national poll since last year showing her in front by about a 2-1 margin aren't "good polls"?

2008? You're comparing Sanders to Obama?

[Brock Kentman]

46. Hello?

Have you been paying attention to the polls? It's no longer a 2-1 margin.

Bernie is up 16 points in NH, and narrowing his gap elsewhere. It'll skyrocket after October 13th, and will remain there. It only solidifies what people hear and see about Bernie.

Clinton has already hit her ceiling, and has been on a steady decline. Three months ago, Clinton had a comfortable lead that is now down to under 20% margin, and still decreasing DAILY.

October 13th will be Clinton's final solid lead on all polls.

Oh, interesting factoid that's out there.. Bernie's support: 98% is because they like Bernie. the other 2% is because they don't like Hillary. And he's still unknown at 45%. Still plenty of upside. Ready to debate on the issues yet?

[AgingAmerican]

48. Her 'lead' is half what it was a few months ago

And shrinking every month. She's losing momentum.

[ibegurpard]

56. Not true

She has momentum... in the wrong direction.

[workinclasszero]

52. Thats right. Even thought Bernie himself claims

he and his supporters aren't anti-Hillary!

LO freakin L

I guess Bernie has never been to the Bernie Ungerground!

[LondonReign2]

57. Actually, posting polls seems to be the number one activity for Hillary supporters

Which is perfectly fine.

Would be little more interesting, IMO, to discuss Clinton's and Sanders' policy positions, but that doesn't seem to be a topic Clinton supporters want anything to do with.

[GeorgeGist]

29. It ain't over til it's over

[reformist2]

33. So, Clinton dropped "only" 5 points in one month. This is good news for her how!? LOL

[kenn3d]

35. No. Clinton dropped 5.3 points and Sanders GAINED 3.2 points, Biden was stagnant.

On Sept 10th Biden's composite leveled off (20.0 then-20.8 now).
During the 2 week period since, as Biden's numbers remained steady:
Clinton's composite avg has fallen another 5.3 pts
Sanders' composite avg has risen 3.2pts
And Clinton's lead over Sanders has fallen 4.8pts from 19.5 to 14.7 (a new all-time low).

See the RCP Composite chart here:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html

I really don't think this confirms much of anything, but it surely does NOT confirm "Sanders Surge" is over.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

36. wishful thinking on your part

Bernie campaign is just starting

2007.....

[Jamaal510]

47. If anything, there's a Biden surge

even though he has yet to announce. It's interesting that despite the unlikelihood of him announcing another run, he still out-polls all but 2 of the declared D candidates, and he even out-polls BS in a few polls. I know it's tough for him to run especially after the death of his son, but if he ran, he'd get my vote for sure.

[Fearless]

49. A Fox News poll?

[riversedge]

51. I think the word 'surge' is overused. IMHO

[workinclasszero]

53. Bernie's bumping his head

against his own ceiling.

Hes got the fringe democratic/green/independent/republican playing dirty tricks/white upper middle class votes. 20, 25% maybe.

Hillary's got the rest including 90% of people choosing Uncle Joe in polls too I bet.

Cmon Super Tuesday! It will put the Bernie "surge" to bed, once and for all.

[Tom Rinaldo]

55. If you think voices like Sanders and Warren only speak for fringe White Democrats, Greens etc.

then you are making the same basically condescending judgements that corporate media peddles. There is a strong progressive wing in the Democratic Party much broader than your check list, and also much broader than conventional wisdom liked to previously claim. That is why they have already gotten it so wrong about how well Sanders can do. Clinton may well win the nomination, and maybe (maybe not - we will see) she legitimately represents the positions of more Democrats than Sanders does. But "fringe" he is not. Wake up and smell the coffee.

[LondonReign2]

58. He has plateaued? Yet again? What is this, the third or fourth plateau?

[mythology]

60. No individual poll would show that

Individual polls are functionally useless as they all have a bias in their projection about weighted samples and such.

[NCTraveler]

61. Biden is the one who has been surging.

Very interesting race. Really excited to see what Biden decides.