The Endorsement Primary

[George II]

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-endorsement-primary/

The Endorsement Primary By Aaron Bycoffe

UPDATED 12:55 p.m. EDT | September 24

In presidential primaries, endorsements have been among the best predictors of which candidates will succeed and which will fail. So we’re keeping track.

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Interesting analysis. "Cutting to the chase" - here's how the Democratic candidates stack up so far:

Hillary Clinton 341
Joe Biden 16
Martin O'Malley 1

More details at the link, but in short a Governor is worth 10 points, Senator 5 points, Representative 1 point.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

1. In this election

they won't count

[George II]

8. Won't count? Remember, every Governor, Senator, and Representative (and more) endorsement...

....means one delegate each.

Clinton currently has several delegates, Sanders none.

[Brock Kentman]

2. Very nice.

It means that Bernie is the real deal - the People's candidate.

Not some corporatist/Third Way leeches like Clinton.

[oasis]

3. K and r

[Skwmom]

4. Nothing like going on the record endorsing how the Clintons do business.

But, I guess for some people that's been very lucrative.

For anyone that is running for re-election, I can see the Republican general election ads.

[kenn3d]

5. The Endor$ement Primary

Yes, it might as well be a Governor is worth 100k, and Senator 50k, and a Congressman 10k. They are all $o thoroughly bought and paid for.

It's really quite easy to understand why Bernie isn't getting any endorsements from his "collegues" in government.
99% of our government officials belong to the 1%.

It is a badge of honor that he's not getting their endorsements imo.

Let's wait and see who the voters endorse.

[leftofcool]

6. Did it ever occur to you that his peers just don't like him?

[neverforget]

9. So they don't like him? Have any evidence for that?

[George II]

11. See the OP...

....each endorsement for Clinton, Biden, or O'Malley is essentially evidence that any of those three are better "liked" than Sanders by the endorsers.

[neverforget]

13. So you're saying the endorsements are about how well they

like or don't like Sanders and not about politics?

[George II]

14. Endorsements generally are based upon how well one works with or gets along with....

...one's peers.

For not a single person in the Senate, the House, or even State houses to endorse him even after hundreds of endorsements have been issued speaks volumes about his manner in which he works with his peers.

Indeed, even his fellow Democratic Vermont Senator as well as the Democratic Governor of Vermont have endorsed Hillary Clinton in lieu of their fellow Vermonter, Bernie Sanders.

Remember, these are the people, if he's ever elected president, with whom he will have to work in order to have a successful presidency and accomplish any of his lofty goals.

Now people can drone on and on about "they're the establishment", yadda yadda - but that doesn't change the fact that they ARE who they are.

For the last seven years I've seen complaining and moaning about how little Obama has done (I don't agree, by the way), imagine how little Sanders will get done without a single ally in either House?

[Fawke Em]

12. Because he can't be bought and they are?

Sure.

[brooklynite]

28. He's not getting Warren or Grayson's endorsements either...

...but if he does, you'll treat them with the same disdain?

[cherokeeprogressive]

7. Endor$ement$ you $ay?

Mean$ fuck-all, Hillary Clinton$ endor$ement$ do.

[left-of-center2012]

10. Endorsements do switch closer to elections

Just sayin'

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

16. Considering the esteem that people have for congress I wouldn't count on endorsements

I wouldn't count on endorsements to sway the voters positively.

[NCTraveler]

18. Why that is an insignificant metric.

These endorsements are from people who have their constituency. The chart you show says not one single thing about how a constituency feels about their own representative. You are attempting to make distinction where absolutely none can be drawn.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

19. Nonsense.

The poll shows how people in general feel about politicians in general.

“History has tried hard to teach us that we can’t have good government under politicians. Now, to go and stick one at the very head of the government couldn’t be wise.” -Mark Twain

[NCTraveler]

20. It's really not nonsense.

For example, Corey Booker. You are saying his endorsement isn't worth anything because of national numbers. How many people nationally know who the guy is? You are literally using a metric that can be applied in no way at all to this situation. Now take a poll of Booker in his own state. See. That's how you do it. That would help to determine better how popular he is with the people he spends time with. Instead you are linking him to a poll that makes ZERO distinction between Booker and Boehner. It's actually a little funny. Lord knows using numbers reflective of Boehner's congress should be applied to Booker and his constituents. I love it.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

23. I think you are overvaluing endorsements from politicians.

If anything, endorsements from movie stars, musicians, and jocks probably carry more weight.

[NCTraveler]

25. I actually agree that the others carry more weight to the genearal public.

But the politicians come with their own networks, email lists, and friends. It is a part of coalition building. I really don't think they are of the greatest importance. I do think they matter. I was simply pointing out that the metric you were using cannot be applied in any way to judge the weight of an endorsement.

[MohRokTah]

22. It's not nonsense at all.

Poll after poll has always showed people hat Congress as a whole.

Meanwhile, the vast majority of people really like the people they have representing them in Congress, which is why incumbents nearly always win.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

24. Hillary isn't an incumbant.

[MohRokTah]

26. But the Super Delegates endorsing her ARE.

Jeez Louise, talk about trying a redirection from the point you initially tried to make!

[George II]

32. Sanders is, and he has zero support among the men and women he's been associated with for 25 years.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

33. Which is one helluva good reason to vote for him.

[NCTraveler]

27. Exactly. nt.

[George II]

31. Sanders has been part of that group for 25 years.

[NCTraveler]

17. Her network is pretty amazing. nt.

[Hortensis]

29. Yes. Plus, she wooed a lot of Obama's staff to work for her.

Their ground-breaking organization made a tremendous difference for him.

Then there's her resume. So many here like to think it's full of nothing but negatives, but their dislike should not blind them to the reality that she's been a heavy hitter for a long now and a LOT of people like and respect her.

The GOP didn't fight the Iran deal just because they despise diplomatic solutions and prefer ground wars (although there's some truth there). International sanctions HRC put together while she was secretary of state forced Iran to the bargaining table. The GOP tried to sabotage that major foreign policy victory for the United States in large part because she can claim it as a foreign policy achievement. They failed, and she's got it.

[MohRokTah]

21. We're closing in on half the Super Delgates committing.

That's a good chunk of the entire number of delegates. Hillary is currently at about 14% of the delegate needed to win (~2242) and not a single primary has been held!

[HooptieWagon]

30. Let's see what Nate Silver said in 07...

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/25/1424878/--NH-polls-are-a-leading-indicator-of-National-Polls-Nate-Silver-of-2007

Hmmm... Hillary is trailing by double digits in NH. No wonder the DNC is wooing Biden for PlanB.

[Gothmog]

34. Has Sanders found even one member of Congress to endorse him?