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Related: About this forumCronyism and Personal Political Benefits in the Sanders Camp
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In 2010 Sanders went on the campaign trail to help Peter Shumlin who was in a tight election battle. This wasn't the only year Sanders helped Shumlin out. Sanders has held many events for or been at many of Shumlin events supporting him. In the following years, Sanders wife, Jane Sanders, was appointed to two cushy commission positions by Governor Shumlin.
The first, in 2012(another year Sanders helped the Governor), as a Commissioner on the Texas Low-Level Radioactive Waste Commission - Vermont Compact.
http://www.tllrwdcc.org/about-the-comission/
The second, in 2013, as Commissioner with the Vermont Economic. Development Authority.
http://www.veda.org/about-veda/board-of-directors/
Both are listed on her LinkedIn page.
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/jane-o-meara-sanders/1b/674/a4a
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)That this desperate smear attempt conflicts with the narrative you all have been trying to push about how Bernie doesn't help Democrats...
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)You must be talking about someone else's narrative. Mine has been clear and consistent. He has worked within the party for decades.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Bwahahahaha!
But seriously, folks, if anyone stopped supporting Bernie because of charges of cronyism, Hillary would not qualify in the slightest as the politician to support. Just sayin'.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)First two posts so far have been deflections. Very telling. Talking points will be here soon so it doesn't have the appearance of simple direct deflection.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Here's my direct answer to your lame post: I don't care about it...just like I don't care about Hillary's emails or Benghazi or the Clinton Foundation. I believe that Bernie will actually fight against cronyism and for transparency regardless of how anyone tries to spin some semblance of hypocrisy because he has a history of doing so. I believe Hillary will not...again because of her history.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Fight against that of something he supports and takes part in?
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Though, I'd have to look at old posts to be sure.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)A lot of Hillary apologists claim that.
artislife
(9,497 posts)We all love our O'Malley supporters that post his stand on issues, where he is going to be and why he is the best choice. There seems to be another set that .....well are for him.
It must be something in the way he moves, or something....because we sure haven't read their reasons or gushings.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)I have run into only one or two committed O'Malley backers here that I believe. There are about half a dozen that say they are for O'Malley and use it as cover for their attacks on Bernie. It is really, really sad since O'Malley is a pretty decent candidate.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Baltimore police to wreak havoc on the black community any more palatable.
Lately, O'Malley's good point that is stressed is that he was a good administrator. I am more interested in issues and past record. The campaign rhetoric and detailed plan stuff means nothing to me, really. I will stick with Bernie.
Koinos
(2,792 posts)But Sanders has worked well with the Vermont Democratic party, sometimes to the detriment of Sanders' Democratic electoral opponents.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)He also did just what I described in the op. Three for three on deflection so far.
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)other than that, what is there to deflect?
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Apparently there's some big cronyism scandal
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)Yeah, an unpaid commission post?
How horribly corrupt can you get...
Is this the best that they can do?
Chitown Kev
(2,197 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)Especially since these cushy appointments were right after she drove Burlington College into near bankruptcy during her Fiorina-esque tenure as president.
artislife
(9,497 posts)that is one of our behaviors, but not who you think it is...ha
matt819
(10,749 posts)Cushy commission positions:
Vermont Economic Development Authority. Take a look at their 2014 Annual Report - http://www.veda.org/2014-annual-report/#1. This organization is dedicated to economic development and business and employment growth in the State of Vermont. There is no line item for board member salaries. My guess why? Board members serve without pay. They are men and women dedicated to economic development in Vermont. Cushy? Give me a fucking break.
Texas Low Level Radioactive Waste Disposal Compact Commission - http://www.tllrwdcc.org/: This organization has two staff members and my guess, again, is that board members serve because of commitment to civic responsibility. Cushy? Give me a fucking break.
Stop with the Sanders bashing - and for that matter, the Hillary bashing - threads. They're pointless, self-defeating, and posts like this just show the stupidity and depths to which you're all willing to sink. And, if you want to play this game, look at Hillary's speaking fees or her paid corporate board memberships.
djean111
(14,255 posts)LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I have yet to see that argument made. Even if it is non-paying, you are standing up for power and influence in politics being shifted to family members after political favors are given.
matt819
(10,749 posts)Knowing how these groups work on New England, I'm assuming it is unpaid. It is a reasonable assumption.
As for the political power thing, again, give it a fucking rest. It's about economic development not political power or cronyism. Are the tinfoil off your head, take a deep breath, and go do something else for a while. Political smearing and accusations of the sort we're seeing here are no less vile than the bigotry we see on the right.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)The links from the poster above indicates that at least two of the positions are non-paying. That has your undies in a bundle but a Clinton surrogate using racial dog whistles doesn't?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)sponsored by Ted Kennedy. That bill included a pathway to citizenship for over ten million people. Sanders lined up next to some of the most conservative legislatures working to shoot it down. Obama, Biden and Clinton all supported it.
"at least two of the positions are non-paying"
Where?
"That has your undies in a bundle but a Clinton surrogate using racial dog whistles doesn't?"
Please link to where I have supported Clinton surrogates using racist dog whistles. That is extremely dishonest on your part. Someone posts something you don't like so you insinuate they support racist behavior. Really low on you part. Back it up with a link.
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)How much did the positions pay? How much did Sanders and his wife benefit?
I also noticed that you like to play the martyr and make believe you've been accused of something. You did it to BMUS and now you are trying to do it to me. It is a childish tactic, given the posts are out there for all to see. To repeat:
--you complained about Sanders supporters using RW sources
--I said Clinton supporters had no reason to complain after citing Republican political ads claiming Sanders protected pedophiles and cheered a Clinton columnist that used racial dog whistles against Obama in '08
--you said that didn't interest you
--I then asked why Sanders' wife getting non-paying positions got your undies in a bundle but Clinton's surrogate using racial attacks didn't?
...which you then made believe was some sort of personal attack that was "really low". LOL. Playing the victim card.
Thank you, I will research Bernie's position on the 2007 bill.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)"That has your undies in a bundle but a Clinton surrogate using racial dog whistles doesn't?"
Please show where I support Clinton surrogates using racial dog whistles. That is really low of you.
"you complained about Sanders supporters using RW sources"
Ron Fournier? Maybe you don't consider him to be to the right.
"Non-paying jobs are the cushiest"
You made the claim that they were non-paying jobs. I never made the claim they were paid or unpaid. Once again, not above board on your part. It is you who made the claim. I made no claim either way. Why? Dollars aren't necessary with cronyism. Influence and power are a big part of it. This is blatant cronyism with monetary compensation or not. Once again, only you made the claim, not me as you are now trying to spin.
I can't for the life of me figure out why you keep trying to attach me to someone who has posted something racist, acting as if I support it. You clearly have nothing to back it up.
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)So first, you made the claim these are crony positions. The burden of proof is on you to show how Sanders or his wife benefited. How did they benefit?
As far as the other stuff, you said you weren't interested in the fact Clinton's columnist had used racial slurs against Obama
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=621372
Sorry, no one is "attaching" you to someone that has posted something racist. Your victim card is invalid.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)You cannot in any way come up for a reason for this blatant cronyism so you are simply deflecting. Exact same as you did before that you are now trying to use as proof of something. Not a very cool debate tactic on your part.
Sanders campaigned for Shumlin, a short time later Shumlin appoints Sanders wife as commissioner at two places. You have nothing for that so are deflecting and distracting. Anything to avoid what is obvious and blatant cronyism. I actually love your deflection. I really don't get why people support cronyism as you do. It really couldn't be any more blatant. You completely deflected on that other thread to avoid something that clearly made you uncomfortable, now you are using that deflection to deflect here. It is impressive that all of this can be kept straight. ooops. Kind of proof it wasn't kept straight. Still might throw some off to the blatant cronyism Sanders and his wife are knee deep in.
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)just doesn't work, no matter how much you kick and scream.
If you are going to claim cronyism, you have to show how they benefited. How did they benefit? Were they paid? If so, how much? What other benefits did they receive? How were they personally better off? If you can show me HOW THEY ACTUALLY BENEFITED we have a basis for discussion. Otherwise, not so much.
I reiterate my point: You climb on moral high horse about Sanders, even though you can't show any way in which he benefited, but the fact that a Hillary surrogate that used racism against Obama is now trying to claim Sanders is a racist is of no concern to you?
Or perhaps I am wrong -- Are you offended by a Hillary surrogate that used racism against Obama? Are you offended when Hillary supporters then post a piece by the same person accusing Sanders of racism and they cheer the piece?
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)and Sanders wife was rewarded with two commission positions. That is by every definition cronyism. Seems some don't think it is a big deal after all. I mean, your concern is if it was cushy or not. Seriously? That is your concern. A senators wife was given two commission positions for political favors. Let me say it again. Sanders helped Shumlin out on the campaign trail, soon after that, Sanders wife was appointed to tow commissions by Shumlin. Definition of cronyism and your issue is if I am correct calling it cushy. That really explains it all.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Your issue is with me calling it cushy. You have no concerns about the blatant cronyism. Once again, Sanders helped Shumlin out on the campaign trail, soon after Shumlin appointed Sanders wife to two commissions. And your issue is with me calling it cushy. lol. I guess I would be doing the same if I felt the need to act like the person I supported didn't play politics. I know O'Malley will get knee deep in it. Only one of us is aware Sanders is knee deep in it. Soon after Sanders helped Shumlin to get elected, Shumlin awarded Sanders wife with two commission positions. You can deflect from it all you want. It is the definition of cronyism.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Soon after, Sanders wife is appointed to two commissions by Shumlin, and you don't see cronyism. lol.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)A short time after Sanders helps Shumlin to get elected, Sanders wife is appointed as a commissioner by Shumlin to not one, but two commissions. Nothing to see here. lol.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)ish of the hammer
(444 posts)I'm voting for Sanders because he is a progressive and Clinton is a corporatist.
matt819
(10,749 posts)Nt
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Please tell me where I have gone wrong with respect to your research. Shortly after Sanders helped Shumlin to get elected, Shumlin appointed Sanders wife to two commissions. Show where I have gone wrong as you are claiming. It is, by definition, cronyism.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)More in otehr post below
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)The politician then turns around an appoints Sanders wife to two commissions.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)So what?
matt819
(10,749 posts)I know it's not right to call someone a troll, but to keep pressing this issue is obscene. There's a big difference between Christie appointing his buddy Samson to the Port Authority and then Samson pressuring SW Airlines to run a flight to his vacation home, and the governor of a small state appointing a prominent, well-liked, and well-respected spouse of a prominent, well-liked, and well-respected Senator to an organization dedicated to economic development.
Correlation isn't evidence of causation.
Also, in the words of the police detectives on tv - who benefits? In this case, the STate of Vermont benefits from the commitment of a civic-minded person.
I had a final sentence to this post but I would probably be the subject of an alert or a hide, so I am exercising restraint. But as a DUer of long standing I am deeply offended by the original post and the continued defense of it.
Rant over. No more responses to this ridiculous thread.
frylock
(34,825 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)The play is in the connections. We are talking a different club than you and I belong to. I have to say I am really shocked people are deflecting and outright ignoring what is by every definition cronyism. Sanders helped Shumlin to get elected, a short time later Shumlin appoints Sanders wife to two commission positions. It isn't even a look of impropriety. It is flat out cronyism. No one can honestly say otherwise.
frylock
(34,825 posts)What was the pay of these cushy spots?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Compensation often comes in the form of power, though I currently believe at least one of these is a paid position. Interesting you think the only political pay-offs out there are in green. That position is a first for me.
Sanders helped Shumlin get elected. Shortly after Shumlin appointed Sanders wife to two commission positions. What don't you get? It is beyond simple and the definition of cronyism.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)earned that post on her own. Doesn't she work with youth in a jobs program. She is a social worker. The exact kind of person you want on this kind of committee.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)http://gawker.com/did-clintons-backdoor-adviser-illegally-lobby-for-putin-1693111549
...leaked emails from her longtime confidant Sidney Blumenthal show that he and another former official from Bill Clinton's administration were secretly lobbying the secretary of state on behalf of a billionaire in the former Soviet state of Georgia who was seeking closer ties with Putin's Russiaseemingly in violation of a federal law designed to prevent foreign powers from covertly wielding influence within the United States.
Kornblum wasn't just a geopolitical hobbyist. He was a lobbyist for a pro-Putin politician who was exploiting a connection to the secretary of state. Blumenthal, perhaps eager to get a chance to play diplomat after being rejected for an official State gig, happily played middle-man. The memo clearly constitutes evidence that Kornblum sought to influence U.S. policy on behalf of a foreign political leader, and that he enlisted Blumenthal for help in that project.
Generally speaking, it's fine to lobby U.S. officials on behalf of a foreign power, as long as you register with the U.S. Department of Justice. If you don't register, it's a crime.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)It's so nefarious she put it on her linked in page.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)And you just laugh it off. Cronyism on full display. Give political favors and have the favor returned to family members. No biggie.
catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)I hereby name you to become both my household garbage can maintainer and bathroom cleaner. You don't get any money or benefits but think of the prestige!
jwirr
(39,215 posts)do not see cronyism here. That is when you give a friend or a family member a high paying job they are not qualified to do.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Do you have a link showing they aren't paid positions?
jwirr
(39,215 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)oh, wait a minute, what's Bernie's wealth? Only around a couple hundred thousand? How about the other candidates in the Democratic Primary?
Don't worry, I know we're not going to agree about this either. Have a great day.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Has anyone checked the trunk of his Volvo?
daleanime
(17,796 posts)Why didn't someone tell me this? I need to know important details like that.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)For a 4 door Fiat so he can be like his bestie Pope Frank.
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)Then you'd KNOW that Bernie keeps all his stash in secret Israeli bank accounts.
(All kidding aside, they actually made that claim there. Then they wonder why they get mocked here).
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I love the smell of desperation in the morning.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)and no. I love that it shows the progress we've made on Bernie's campaign, we really can do this!
I hate the fact that even here, where people come just to talk about politics, we still can't have a decent conversation about the issues. The framing and spin are insane.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Sanders campaigned for Shumlin in a tight race. Shortly after Shumlin appointed Sanders wife to two commission seats. Where has the cronyism been shot down. Simply saying it doesn't mean a thing.
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Sanders helped Shumlin. A short time after Shumlin appoints Sanders wife to two commission positions. You call that a talking point. lol.
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)unbelievable
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)The echo chamber is alive and well. Political benefits to family members as reciprocation for political favors? All fine and dandy depending on who is doing it.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Then you better be prepared to show how Sanders or his wife directly benefitted from this. An unpaid position on a Board isn't going to cut it. I serve as an unpaid Board member and it's nothing but a pain on the ass that I do because I believe in the mission of the organization.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)anything but the virtues of their own "group" and the misdeeds of outsiders. Their very definition of cronyism requires that it be committed by others.
Now it should surprise no one that as a morally bankrupt and stupid moderate-to-strong liberal, I wouldn't bother making a big deal of this for any candidate. In the small world of local politics, it can be quite hard to find someone you like for a job that you don't have various interrelationships with.
BTW, did you know scientists've found a pair of genes that can predict whether a person usually votes or seldom bother to? Heritability of political attitudes has been known for decades, but thanks to the new field of genopolitics we're on the verge of a ton of discoveries that will finally help explain why "those people" are all crazy.
AuntPatsy
(9,904 posts)happen to agree, deep breathing helps.....
Humans are imperfect, we should at least agree on that truth
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Shumlin appoints Sanders wife to two commission positions. And you call it a sad suggestion to call it what it is. Cronyism.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)It's SOP for every damn politician and to suggest that this is something unique to the Sander's camp is just sad.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Link to where I said this is unique to the Sanders camp. Interesting claim you have put on me here. I don't ever remember making the claim you are accusing me of.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)As I said, it is standard operating procedure for all politicians. Nothing new what so ever.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)It isn't unique. We are in the minority and that can be seen by damn near every reply to the op. We are truly in the minority on thinking they all do it. You and I are the only two people saying it is nothing new.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)What else can I say?
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)She and I attended the same university and I used to work in an educational industry, so we have mutual friends.
Guess I'm now a Sanders crony because I'm connected.
Seriously, this is a stretch.
Since you gave her LinkedIn page, the folks here can see what degrees she holds and why she'd be more than capable of serving on these boards.
That said, most people who are appointed to commissions of this type have both a background in something they can bring to the table and have been recommended to the post by someone in power.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Did the governor appoint you to two commission positions after you held campaign rallies for him? Shortly after Sanders campaigned for Shumlin, Shumlin appointed Sanders wife to two commission positions. That has absolutely nothing to do with you and linkedin.
karynnj
(59,498 posts)This might better be written as Jane Sanders volunteered to work on two commissions and Shumlin accepted her offer. Vermont gives meaning to citizen government and citizen legislature. ( Visit the State house and you see that legislators don't have offices - just desks on the floor. They don't have their own paid staff. They also get the huge salary of $636 a week! )
Seriously, this is ridiculous - especially when Hillary Clinton people see HRC signing off on Huma Abedin's special status to let her work as a contractor and work outside the State Department as well - ending up with a combined salary that was likely higher than the combined incomes of Bernie and Jane Sanders!
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)karynnj
(59,498 posts)I moved to Vermont almost three years ago. Though we visited annually for 20 years before that, I have to admit that as I learned the local culture many things that Cali had written over the years on Vermont resonated. Her descriptions are amazingly well written and I have found them on target.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I never said it was paid or unpaid. I have yet to see any link showing one way or the other. I simply called it what it is. Cronyism. Sanders helped Shumlin to get elected and shortly after Sanders wife was appointed to two commission positions. I do not take the poster you mentioned seriously. Reading the word "motherfucker" gets old to me after a bit. As does insinuating everyone around you is a racist. Not sure what they have to do with anything. They just cuss and insinuate everyone is racist. They have no part in this discussion. Thanks.
You might not want to simply take a poster at their word. Please look at what many commissioners in Vermont get paid. They do have volunteer positions, but it clearly isn't a claim that can be made outright.
http://vttransparency.org/index.cfm?section=state&pg=State_Compensation&title_part=commissioner
99Forever
(14,524 posts)... Gov. Shumlin?
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Of course.
That's the problem with flinging shit at your opponent. Sometimes only the fool doing the flinging ends up covered by it.
aidbo
(2,328 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Shortly after Sanders helped Shumlin in his bid for reelection, Shumlin appointed Sanders wife to two commission positions. You call that a Fox News story. They would simply infer it was excellent politics.
djean111
(14,255 posts)That's not cronyism?
aidbo
(2,328 posts)It's a common tactic employed by Fox News to imply that what the headline is saying is true.
It's also sometimes called the Cavuto mark after Neil Cavuto, a host on Fox.
I hate to post all these Daily show links because it reminds me of Jon Stewart moving on, but here's one where he explains it.
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/8ov5kh/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-the-question-mark
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines
I'm sure the OP was just asking a question, though.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)each one with the title to the post ending in a question mark, will you go make the same claim to them in all five posts?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)cyberswede
(26,117 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)Another of today's meme's is to attack Jane Sanders. I don't even know what the point is - no one is going to switch to a candidate laden with so much baggage that it is amazing that they can even move.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)...what kind of cronyism, who benefits how, and what quid pro quos are involved.
First of all, it's kind of sexist to suggest that Sanders wife should be excluded from serving in such positions simply because she is his wife.
Second of all, those seem to be public-service positions that don't benefit the Sanders family personally. And they are totally in open view. It's not like behind-the-scenes influence peddling to get favors for the Sanders' vast business enterprises.
So, trying to respond in a non-deflecting way, I don't see anything unseemly in this. It seems to be a very benign form of cronyism,rather then the skeezy stuff that goes on in the corridors of Washington among lobbyists, large corporations and the revolving door of officeholders or appointed regulatory officials getting million dollar jobs from the corporations they were supposedly regulating.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)And was she unqualified?
John Poet
(2,510 posts)Pretty small potatos compared to millions paid into the Clinton foundation by foreign countries hoping for favorable treatment by the Secretary of State...
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)bobbobbins01
(1,681 posts)Until you can prove that she wasn't qualified for either position, you're just flinging poo.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)SunSeeker
(51,512 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)SunSeeker
(51,512 posts)Even if the job was unpaid, it certainly benefited Bernie having his wife on a Board that will make sure his "Not In My Back Yard" Vermont constituents are kept happy. They get to enjoy their nuke energy, while getting rid of their nuke waste in someone else's back yard.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Racist dogs. They hate blacks, Latinos, gays and women, they love guns and are right wing socialists who are really stooges from Moscow...I think they're secret Muslims too....or is it tools of Israel?...I dunno. These memes get so confusing.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Admiral Loinpresser
(3,859 posts)Was Dr. Sanders paid for her work?
Has anyone in the public arena made a charge of cronyism?
What evidence do you or anybody else have of cronyism?
noun derogatory
noun: cronyism; noun: croneyism
the appointment of friends and associates to positions of authority, without proper regard to their qualifications.
https://www.google.com/search?q=definition+of+cronyism&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)He really isn't an O'Malley supporter.
He is just using it as cover to make attacks on Sanders without making Hillary supporters look bad. They have been doing it for awhile. There are like two definite and frequent O'Malley supporters on here and maybe another dozen quiet supporters. Then there are half a dozen people that throw up his name whenever they get called out for putting posts like this out there.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)This thread is going in the trash where it belongs.
Look up HR629. Bernie Sanders not only VOTED, but COSPONSORED to dump low-level nuclear waste in Sierra Blanca TX. https://www.congress.gov/bill/105th-congress/house-bill/629/cosponsors Jane IS the key in this. Look at Bernie's financial filings on OpenSecrets. All their investments are in her name. http://pfds.opensecrets.org/N00000528_2015_Pres.pdf