2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumClinton aide (Huma Abedin) delayed financial data sought by State Dep't
http://news.yahoo.com/clinton-aide-abedin-delayed-reporting-assets-state-dept-200637400--politics.htmlantigop
(12,778 posts)hiring."
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)How many millions will be wasted on probing Huma because she has a relative who works in Islamic studies?
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)have this new designation of "special government employee"? Why did this occur in the last year of Clinton's tenure--what did she use Mrs. Wiener for, that couldn't have been done when Mrs. Wiener was chief of staff?
antigop
(12,778 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)non-government jobs at the same time.
antigop
(12,778 posts)State Department
Teneo
Clinton Foundation
worked in a "personal capacity" for HRC
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)Hillary's IT guy (Take The Fifth) also double-dipped, job-wise, from both the State Dept. and the Clintons personally. It's just so fucking ethical.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)thesquanderer
(11,953 posts)There's nothing wrong with someone having two jobs. Many people have a full-time job and an additional part-time job.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)what you're doing on your "outside" job so there's no conflict of interest (Bryan Pagliano, Fifth Amendment IT Boy, did not do this). And I'm not sure how common it was for Huma Wiener to do what she did, having several Clinton-related satellite gigs that appear to have been piggybacked onto her State job. How do you avoid a conflict of interest, when it appears your main skill set is having a great deal of access to the Sec. of State?
antigop
(12,778 posts)Yep, Weiner said that about his wife. Rather strange.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/14/magazine/anthony-weiner-and-huma-abedins-post-scandal-playbook.html
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)thesquanderer
(11,953 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)oasis
(49,150 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)that it is a drip, drip, drip action that seems to be highlighting the chance of impropriety on behalf of Clinton.
Is it true? I don't know. It is just like the email thing to me...an erosive force. I think the email thing is dumb on behalf of Clinton, I don't believe in the Benghazi bs and this....who cares-----except that it has the potential to drip drip drip onto people's psyches that she just seems to obsfucate when she can just be direct. It is as if following the rules to a tee without amending them in some way is just too much to ask for.
It is her fatal flaw in her Shakespearean drama.
oasis
(49,150 posts)at least you recognize her as a person of destiny. She's not about to fold up her tent in the face of adversity.
artislife
(9,497 posts)I remember 2008.
Yes, she is a person of destiny. What destiny, is still onfolding.
I respect that you support her.
oasis
(49,150 posts)to me he has such a strong, committed following.
mak3cats
(1,573 posts)...I wish all of us had your attitude.
oasis
(49,150 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)Just like Bernie, just like FDR, just like Reagan.
The term is neutral to feelings about what that means, it just states the importance of the person. And H is important. She has been a figure in the psyche of this nation since 1992. The views about her are vast and varied.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)As if it's pre-ordained and resistance is futile.
artislife
(9,497 posts)But the phrase wasn't that she was destined to be just that she was a person of destiny and decided to read it as it was written. I have had pleasant exchanges with Oasis, so I decide to "listen" to what she writes and not read something into it.
I can't say I do that with every H supporter, but I do try to from time to time...heh.
But that is my take and you are certainly free to have your own!
oasis
(49,150 posts)In your case, March 1st which is even sooner.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)oasis
(49,150 posts)Response to antigop (Original post)
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DemocratSinceBirth
(99,704 posts)I thought this was the behavior we progressives reflexively eschew.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Are you saying nobody else could do the job? Was it announced on USAJOBS.com? We're others interviewed for the job and she was most qualified even with working on the Clinton global initiative?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,704 posts)Go find somebody else to bully, preferably in real life.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)So yes I am calling you out on that.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,704 posts)Maybe you call people out in the rarefied milieu you inhabit but I assure you that you have never called out anybody like me.
This is what you said to inaugurate our poisonous tete a tete:
I said no such thing.
P.S. Re: the high tech lynching:
In a letter dated June 13, 2012, to the State Department Inspector General, five Republican members of Congress claimed that Abedin "has three family membersher late father, her mother and her brother connected to Muslim Brotherhood operatives and/or organizations."[18][19] (Those signing the letter were: Michele Bachmann (R-Minn), Trent Franks (R-Ariz), Louie Gohmert (R-Texas), Thomas J. Rooney (R-Florida), and Lynn Westmoreland (R-Georgia).)[20] The claims in the letter were widely rejected and condemned by a variety of sources, and were generally labelled as a conspiracy theory.[20][21][22][23] The Washington Post called the allegations "paranoid," a "baseless attack" and a "smear."[20]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huma_Abedin
Recursion
(56,582 posts)I mean, Obama also didn't post "Secretary of State" on USAJobs either. Though I'd kind of love to see the responses if he had.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Response to antigop (Original post)
DemocratSinceBirth This message was self-deleted by its author.
Vinca
(50,168 posts)Why would anyone care about this?
KoKo
(84,711 posts)It is important to many of us who she associates with and how she ran the US State Department.
As a Democrat I care about this. Shouldn't You?
Vinca
(50,168 posts)And, keep in mind, I dread voting for the woman if she's the candidate in the general. In addition, think of Huma. She's got a whole lot on her plate and if she's a few days late with the financials I don't think it deserves a tar and feathering.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,704 posts)I learned there was a delay in getting in all her paperwork nearly four years ago but she eventually got it all in... i also learned that the investigation emanated from a complaint from Judicial watch (C) and Senator Charles Grassley (R).
zeemike
(18,998 posts)And perhaps because it could be corruption in high places?...and because it is about electing the most powerful person in the world?
I would think we should care a lot.
Vinca
(50,168 posts)This is a nothing burger. You guys are just begging the Hillary people to drag out some of the people Bernie has been associated with in the past. None of us are angels.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)Once she is the nominee.
And you can dismiss it all if you want, but to the average voter it will have an impact. And they will react predictably by voting against her or staying home.
Not so with the GOP...they will line up to vote against her.
But by all means, if you have any ammo against Sanders bring it out...we should not fear the light of day...and I don't.
Vinca
(50,168 posts)Besides, things that could be used against him have already been written - by him - in his books. My point is every election season we become mired in mindless BS and the important issues are brushed to the side. I'm more interested in Hillary's record on trade, Keystone, Wall Street reform, etc. than I am the finances of Mr. and Mrs. Anthony Wiener.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)But then we are on a political board talking politics.
But the general public is not doing that and they know only what they hear on the TV...it is a sad fact that they don't pay more attention to it but it is understandable given the negative nature of it.
And the media does not care much about the issues, only the salacious scandals, and so that is what most people will see.
Vinca
(50,168 posts)Hillary's email mess seems to drag on and on and on and every so often another tidbit comes out to keep it alive. My biggest concern is that she'll be the nominee and then an indictment will come down. What then?
zeemike
(18,998 posts)The public could become so weary of it they stay home or vote against her.
It is more in the hands of the media than anything. And the political wonks have less to do with it than them.
antigop
(12,778 posts)From the article in the OP:
If Weiner "filed his separate disclosure last June", that would have been June, 2011.
He resigned from Congress in June, 2011.
How can she make the claim that "Nothing has changed" from June, 2011 to April, 2012?
Here is what he did after he left Congress:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/30/nyregion/jobless-after-scandal-weiner-triumphs-in-corporate-world.html
Since then, Mr. Weiner said, he has advised more than a dozen companies. He disclosed the names of a few of them after they agreed to waive confidentiality agreements.
He signed up a New York firm called CureMD, an electronic medical records provider. And he became a consultant to Covington & Burling, an international law firm.
eta: Looks like a LOT changed from June, 2011 to April, 2012.
antigop
(12,778 posts)karynnj
(59,474 posts)I would guess that he filed his disclosure consistent with being a Congressman, not knowing that he would resign in disgrace at the end of the month. ( There was a May 15th deadline, but some received extensions - so this is not an unreasonable assumption.) He resigned on June 16, 2011.
As someone noted, Huma's assertion makes no sense. The disclosure from June 2011 would reflect him working as a Congressman. By April 2012, he had a new job.
antigop
(12,778 posts)So did she turn them in or not?
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)Hillary hired her before her disclosures were complete.
antigop
(12,778 posts)magical thyme
(14,881 posts)"after the fact" of her being hired with incomplete disclosures.
The last email says that yes, she has to file Wiener's finances too. THere weren't any subsequent emails, but she eventually did submit the disclosures.
antigop
(12,778 posts)magical thyme
(14,881 posts)that's what I get for trusting my memory...
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Over it.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)Onlooker
(5,636 posts)As long as we're doing the right's bidding by bashing Hillary anyway we can, might as well post this rumor. It's great to see how well the left and right are getting along in their Hillary bashing.
http://www.coachisright.com/if-hillary-clinton-had-a-lesbian-affair-with-huma-abedin-than-everything-in-weinergate-fits/
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)I've never heard that before this moment. But, now I have! Can't thank you enough for being the only person in this thread to make the claim.
Bold, bold I say.
antigop
(12,778 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)Beyond tone deaf. Not fit for public office, least of all the Presidency.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)and have the hours to provide for each without double dipping?
i doubt these were all 10 or 15 hour positions
antigop
(12,778 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)Ms. Abedin did not disclose the arrangement or how much income she earned on her financial report. It requires officials to make public any significant sources of income.
antigop
(12,778 posts)Did she ever provide the info on Weiner's finances?