Hillary Clinton Cripples The Republican Email Scandal With Just One Line

[riversedge]

Smart move Hillary. Intelligent voters have and can see that -- this email thingy is just a Republican smear tactic.



http://www.politicususa.com/2015/09/27/hillary-clinton-cripples-republican-email-scandal-line.html

Hillary Clinton Cripples The Republican Email Scandal With Just One Line
By: Jason Easley

Sunday, September, 27th, 2015, 4:06 pm

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Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton used one line during her Meet The Press interview that rips the heart out of the Republican email scandal.

Transcript via Meet The Press:

CHUCK TODD:

Is this trust deficit, your husband did an interview on CNN. And he basically put it all on the Republicans and a little bit us on the press that this whole thing that has driven down your poll numbers. Do you bear any responsibility?

HILLARY CLINTON:................

..........[Hillary]..............And it was, it seemed to be at the time, endless. And then when I ran for the Senate, people said, “Hey, we are more concerned about what you’re going to do for us.” And I trust the voters to make that decision this time around too.


.............. The line that cripples this scandal, “during the ’90s, I was subjected to the same kind of barrage.”

Clinton is taking the teeth out of the scandal by placing in the decades-long timeline of partisan attacks against Bill and Hillary Clinton. There is nothing new in the Clinton email scandal that Republicans haven’t said a million times before about the Clintons.

She didn’t say it in a defensive way, but Clinton built on what former President Clinton said during his interview with CNN. There is nothing new here. The email scandal is more of the same old stuff from Republicans who are trying to create a trust issue because that is their best and maybe the only chance of beating her.

There have been tons of accusations made by Republicans, but there is no evidence that Hillary Clinton did anything wrong. The email scandal is more partisan politics, and the Democratic frontrunner is placing this distraction within its proper context by linking it to the tactics that the Republicans have used in the past.

[ram2008]

1. No one wants to redo the 90's

That's why her poll numbers are dropping.

[onehandle]

2. You mean the 90s when we had massive job growth and the longest peacetime expansion in history?

Yeah.

Who the fuck would want that?

[AtomicKitten]

4. DOMA, Wall Street deregulation, punitive welfare reform, NAFTA, DADT, expanded death penalty,

pioneered extraordinary rendition, "tough on crime" policy with mass incarceration that paved the way for private prison industry, sat on hands during Rwanda genocide, Haitian rice tariffs, Monica, etc., etc.

Who the fuck would want that?

[MindfulOne]

6. Tax breaks for Hummer owners, end of fuel economy standards, crappy environmental policy

Offshoring and NAFTA.

The economic "boom" was a bubble and could have been seen as a short term fake fix.

"It's the economy stupid"... yeah, right.

[ffr]

52. Throwing out the baby with the bath water I see.

Welcome to DU!

Longest Economic Expansion in U.S. History.
Moving From Record Deficits to Record Surplus.

Deficits Replace By Surpluses: Keeping Us On Track to Be Debt Free by 2013 (Yes, total public debt of $0.00. Nothing owed to anybody for anything anymore).
Government Spending: Lowest in Over Three Decades
Taxes for Typical Families: Lowest in Over Two Decades
Jobs Are Up: Nearly 21 Million Created Since January 1993
Faster Economic Growth: 3.9 Percent Per Year
Private-Sector Growth Is Up: 4.4 Percent Per Year
Equipment and Software Investment Is Growing Faster Than Ever
Homeownership Is Up: The Highest in American History
Inflation is Down: The Lowest Core Rate In 35 Years
Welfare Rolls Dropped Dramatically: Lowest Since 1969
Unemployment Is Down: The Lowest Rate in 30 Years
Unemployment for African Americans the Lowest on Record
Unemployment for Hispanics Recovered From Record Highs to Achieve Record Lows
Real Wages Rising Again: Fastest Growth in Two Decades
Poverty For African-Americans Dropped to Lowest On Record
Poverty For Hispanics Dropped to Lowest Since 1979
Poverty For Single Mothers is the Lowest On Record
Largest One-Year Drop in Child Poverty in More than Three Decades.
Family Income Up More Than $5,000 Since 1993
LARGEST UNIFIED SURPLUS EVER
Largest surplus as a share of the economy since 1951.
Three surpluses in a row — for the first time in over 50 years.
LARGEST DEBT REDUCTION EVER
The President's (Clinton’s) plan would eliminate the debt by 2013 — 2 years earlier than planned.
Interest payments would be eliminated
On track to pay down $297 billion in debt held by the public over three years.
The debt held by the public is on track to be $2.4 trillion lower in 2000 than was projected when the President took office.
REDUCING SPENDING WHILE CUTTING TAXES FOR MIDDLE-INCOME FAMILIES
Federal spending as a share of the economy is the lowest since 1966.
While balancing the budget and paying down the debt, President Clinton has provided tax relief for working families.
Lower interest rates have already cut mortgage payments by $2,000 for families with a $100,000 mortgage.
Improved Access to Affordable, Quality Child Care and Early Childhood Programs.
Increased the Minimum Wage.
Enacted the Workforce Investment Act.
Signed the Adoption and Safe Families Act.
Largest Investment in Education in 30 Years
Providing Early Education to Nearly 900,000 Children with Head Start.
Lowest Crime Rates in 25 Years
Putting 100,000 More Police on the Streets.
More Than Half a Million Felons, Fugitives and Domestic Abusers Denied Guns.
Cracking Down on the Most Serious Gun Criminals.
Protecting Children from Sex Offenders.
Teen Births Down to the Lowest Rate on Record.
Child Abuse Declines for Five Years in a Row.
Expanded Investment in Urban and Rural Areas.
Providing Incentives to Save.
Enacted Most Comprehensive Medicare Reforms in History.
Extending the Life of the Medicare Trust Fund.
Enacted Single Largest Investment in Health Care for Children since 1965.
Implementing Comprehensive Nursing Home Quality Initiative.
Ensuring Safe Food for America's Families.
Raised Child Immunization Rates to All Time High.

Growing the Economy And Improving the Environment
Preserving Our National Treasures.
Created Nine New National Monuments.
Preserving Our National Forests.
Accelerating Toxic Cleanups and Brownfields Redevelopment.
Keeping Our Drinking Water Safe.
Clearing the Air of Unhealthy Pollution.
Reducing the Threat of Global Warming.
Protecting Oceans and Coasts.

A Strong Research and Development Agenda (Science and Technology)

Increasing Participation in Our Democracy with the Motor Voter Law.

The debt quadrupled under President's Reagan and Bush.
Non-defense discretionary Federal spending as a share of the economy is the lowest on record.
Discretionary spending down under President Clinton and up under the previous two Administrations.
Lower general government spending — as a share of GDP — than any major economy in the world.
The smallest Federal civilian workforce in 40 years. NARA.GOV

And on and on and on. You'd be hard pressed to make a case that the Clinton years of the 1990s were anything but a success for our nation. If it hadn't been for a lot of Democrats staying home on election night 2000, complacent with their new wealth and contentment, America would be 180° from where she ended up by 2008.

Also, look into how hard it was for Clinton/Gore to accomplish these goals, Google Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 and look at how the votes were recorded. Not much has changed for the GOP, the party of NO.

[hootinholler]

16. I would prefer a version of that

Where the vast majority of the gains didn't go to the 1%

[yeoman6987]

28. You forgot the first terror attack on the towers

[leveymg]

3. Wishful thinking doesn't win elections.

She's toast.

[riversedge]

7. Your post is a fine example of wishful thinking.

[leveymg]

8. Clever response.

[riversedge]

14. Thank you.

[stonecutter357]

5. K&R!

[COLGATE4]

48. +1

[pinebox]

9. And that barrage...

Is why so many don't trust her. Her career has been nothing but wrapped up in controversy. You know what that's really good for? Losing elections.

[Beartracks]

12. Also begets an ongoing do-nothing Republican Party-of-NO Congress. Unless....

... we don't ever forget the down-ticket and mid-term elections. Vote. Every. Time. People!

Whoever is the next Dem President is going to need a) the proactive support of Dems of everywhere, and b) a Dem-controlled Congress. Even IF they are DINOs, the more (D)s there are in Congress, the more effective the liberal/progressive ones can be in their Committees.

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[riversedge]

15. Seems you missed the meaning of the OP -or it might help you to read the

entire article.

[Dawson Leery]

10. kick

[Gothmog]

11. Hillary Clinton did very well in this interview

I am not a fan of Chuckie Todd and did not like his attacks but Hillary Clinton was more than a match for Todd.

[Indepatriot]

37. Why is every question asked of HRC an "attack"?...

[jeff47]

13. Did Republicans set up the security on her server?

'Cause whoever did set that up did a terrible job.

What we know so far:

1) Communications with her server were not encrypted for the first 3 months.
https://www.venafi.com/blog/post/what-venafi-trustnet-tells-us-about-the-clinton-email-server/

2) They left the default VPN keys installed on her server
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-04/clinton-s-e-mail-system-built-for-privacy-though-not-security

Using those addresses, McGeorge discovered that the certificate appearing on the site Tuesday appeared to be the factory default for the security appliance, made by Fortinet Inc., running the service.

3) They were using, and continue to use, self-signed SSL certificates
http://gawker.com/how-unsafe-was-hillary-clintons-secret-staff-email-syst-1689393042

4) They set up a .com domain, enabling the typosquater who has registered clintonmail.com (no "e" before "mail&quot . Whoever registered that domain is in a perfect position to steal login information or perform spear phishing attacks.

5) Her ISP was repeatedly hacked by China
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=615632

Yes, there are Republicans attempting a witch hunt. And in addition to that, there are security, FOIA and classified problems with the server. Shouting "Republicans!!!" doesn't make the latter go away.

[bl968]

17. Crippled? LOL

Oh really?

The Department of Defense has uncovered a previously undisclosed email chain between former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and retired Gen. David Petraeus.

That doesn't sound like a big deal, but the e-mails cast doubt on Clinton's assertion that she had turned over all work-related correspondence that moved across the private email server she used during her tenure at the State Department.

Defense Department Uncovers Previously Undisclosed Clinton Email Chain

[riversedge]

25. You and the rw cast doubt.

[Old Crow]

18. Really?

You really think the line "during the ’90s, I was subjected to the same kind of barrage" is going to somehow magically "take the teeth out of" the email story?

I don't. Not for a minute.

[leftofcool]

32. No because the right wing will be happy to keep it alive.

And then there are those on DU.

[Old Crow]

35. Well, that means...

... we're in agreement that the headline of this article is wishful thinking, at best.

Hey, glad you could come over and visit us on this site, by the way.

[leftofcool]

51. I know you bernie supporters really love the guy but you've been had.

you'll figure it out.

[Old Crow]

56. I'm listening.

No need to be enigmatic. This is a forum designed to communicate thoughts and ideas. So communicate away.

[busterbrown]

34. of course you don’t..

Because you don’t want the teeth taken out of the email story.. Any port in the storm for Hillary haters..

But to use right wing talking points is pure unadulterated bullshit..

[Old Crow]

38. Ooh!

Strong words, strong words. I love it when a person gets all e-tough.

[busterbrown]

44. Turned On?

Cool..Lets exchange zip codes..

[Old Crow]

47. No, thanks. (N/T)

[leftofcool]

40. Don't waste your keyboard strokes.

Don't you know that regurgitating right wing talking points and linking to right wing rags is the accepted norm as long as said articles bash Hillary? Don't worry though, every thing is going as planned.

[Geronimoe]

19. Right wing conspiracy

Where did we here that before? Right before Bill was impeached and found guilty in court of obstructing justice.

[oasis]

22. Hello. No r-wing conspiracy, no impeachment.

The entire exercise was bullshit.

[riversedge]

24. Todd brought up the RW conspiracy theory but Hillary trumped him down on that and said no

[cui bono]

27. Why did she say no?

She's the one who claimed that there was one a long time ago. The way they go after her and Obama now for such ridiculous shit, doesn't it make it seem that it actually exists? Don't we know it does? They sat down and planned to block Obama on everything from day one.

[frylock]

20. This was supposed to go away half a year ago..

I can't imagine making reference to the VRWC of the 90's is going to cripple anything.

[Skittles]

21. it lets them know she knows they are playing the same tired game

they have hated Hillary from Day One and their hatred has NEVER waned

[frylock]

23. And that's what is going to get the kids to the polls?

[Skittles]

30. who said that?

Hillary simply did a great job conveying to Chuckie that this is just another irrational repuke bullshit "scandal"

[HereSince1628]

65. You're correct

The appeal of the 'it's the 90's again' lies with H> supporters, not republicans.

The republicans are now into expanding the number of people they widh to bring to their star chamber. They hope that one of these people will prove not to be nearly as resolute as Susan McDougal.

btw, time flies, and I think it's now 9 months since it was supposed to go away. But it's unlikely to do that because the FOIA requests the examination of the documents prior to release of the emails pretty much guarantees this story will keep dripping into the news cycle 'til super Tuesday.

[lobodons]

26. Looking forward to Hillary's eight years as president

And for sure looking forward to her Scotus appointees rather than anything that might come from the GOP wacky doodle clown car

[EEO]

29. Hillary Clinton cripples the Democratic Party and its ability to keep the White House.

Hillary changes her positions with the times.

Hillary has so much baggage it will distract from the party's message.

[AnAzulTexas]

31. is she on xanax?

seriously, what is with her laughing fits lately? from what i understand, being a major candidate is fairly serious and she's chuckling like she's on the way to the bank

[busterbrown]

36. Your spin sounds desperate..

Do yourself a favor and stay away from the server story.. It has no substance..

[AnAzulTexas]

68. i'm not desperate in any way

appreciate your concern, though..

i've yet to comment on the "server" story anywhere, because, frankly i don't give a shit. nice try to throw me in with that gang though

[Tommy2Tone]

39. Fords suck and so does Bernie

Enough with the childish "Is she on xanax."

[leftofcool]

43. This is being looked at.

[Logical]

45. And allowed! Whine much? Nt

[leftofcool]

49. So far.

[Logical]

50. More whining? Nt

[leftofcool]

53. Nope. Don't care.

[AnAzulTexas]

69. hmm, i wasn't aware i'd said anything severe

i hope it was you who tried to report it. idiot. did i say anything detrimental about the woman? no. i asked a real question. why is she laughing like thing's are a joke over the past month.

you 3 critters are the ones who sound desperate.

go ahead and report this one as well, idiots.

[Tommy2Tone]

67. I was responding to a comment saying Hillary was on xanox

I guess it's okay to say one candidate is on drugs but not okay to say another sucks. Oh and I have a Ford and they do suck.

[AnAzulTexas]

70. you don't see sanders laughing at all...

i think he gets that we're on our way to some sort of 3rd world country with useless, paid-for politicians at the helm. therefore, no need to ask if he's on drugs. i guess you'd like to take a pitiful shot at his hairstyle or some other petty dogshit.

also, look closer ol' Tommy2Tone; it's not a ford symbol. i drive a mitsubishi lol.

the cowboys on the other hand, now there's a bunch of "suck"

[Tommy2Tone]

71. Mitsubishi? They suck worse than Ford

Nearly as bad as my eyes. Now petty dogshit is something you know something about.

[AnAzulTexas]

72. you're an idiot

quit trying to INSULT anyone who doesn't agree with you.

calling me petty? hypocrite much, nutbar?

go back to crying about how hillary's base is shrinking and romo's out until november, dick.

[Tommy2Tone]

73. We're done dipstick.

[AnAzulTexas]

74. okie dokie, chet

[Kilgore]

42. No, it's not Xanex.......

But instead a failed software upgrade. You see Hillary is the Borg Candidate. She can be shaped and molded to fit the situation at hand. Like the Borg, from Star Trek, she can be upgraded.

See the video below beginning about two minutes in.


https://m.

[Logical]

46. FFS, someone actually alerted this! They are getting desperate! Nt

On Sun Sep 27, 2015, 11:33 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

is she on xanax?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=629159

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

The poster accuses the former Secretary of State and a potential President of being on drugs? This is allowed on DU now?

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Sep 27, 2015, 11:54 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: So to the pant wetters asking a question is making an accusation now?
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: HRC is not a DUer, and is not the Dem nominee, so according to DU rules criticism is ok. This is nowhere near as bad as some of the attacks against Sanders recently which multiple HRCers deemed ok with no objections. They set the low bar, and should expect no double standard.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I have wondered this myself.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[riversedge]

66. Mocking someone when they chuckle is 3rd grade school-yard talk.

[Gore1FL]

33. "Cripples" may be a bit strong. n/t

[Thinkingabout]

41. K & R

I did well in the 80's, liked them lots.

[Live and Learn]

55. Did you? Well, I guess that is what is important.

[leftofcool]

54. You notice Hillary doesn't rant and rave. She doesn't whine about debates.

She doesn't complain. She listens, she answers. That is presidential.

[Logical]

58. Lol, now that is funny! She is whining about debates plenty behind closed doors! Nt

[leftofcool]

61. Funny, I have been behind a couple of those doors and haven't heard her say a word.

[Logical]

64. Lol, oh sure, you are in the inner circle. Nt

[840high]

59. I especially liked her

head booping up and down when she met with BLM. Made my head spin.

[Thinkingabout]

60. When you sit in the big chair the whining stops before you get there.

[Live and Learn]

63. The big chair?

What are you talking about? Is that the throne, the electric chair or the big chair in the 3 little bears story? Please try to be a bit less cryptic.

[Live and Learn]

57. The really funny thing is:

the emails don't mean squat to most of us. Hillary isn't losing ground because of her emails.

[Jim Lane]

62. I confess I don't understand this argument

She refers to "the same kind of barrage" and you add, "There is nothing new in the Clinton email scandal that Republicans haven’t said a million times before about the Clintons."

I don't recall anything about the email issue before this campaign. (It's not like the diehards who keep trumpeting Benghazi and hoping that something will develop.) Thus, the only way I can make sense of this argument is:

1. Hillary Clinton has frequently been criticized in the past, especially by Republicans.
2. The past criticisms of Hillary Clinton (Whitewater, cattle futures, etc.) have been without merit.
3. Therefore, all current criticisms of Hillary Clinton are without merit.

I beg leave to point out that the conclusion does not follow from the premisses.

When there's genuinely nothing new, as in the case of Benghazi, it's legitimate to point out that this is an old accusation that's been thoroughly investigated and discredited. With something like the email issue, however, where the facts are still unfolding, that argument doesn't fly.

You seem to be saying that the Republicans have a bad track record for credibility (quite true) and that on that basis alone we can reject any charge they make. I disagree. The Republicans do not possess reverse infallibility. Each charge that they make must be assessed on its own merits.