Commentary: What Will Happen If Joe Biden Runs For President ==its not Pretty!!

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Commentary: What Will Happen If Joe Biden Runs For President
September 28, 2015

By Dan Payne


As Vice President Joe Biden weighs whether to enter the 2016 presidential race, WBUR’s Democratic political analyst Dan Payne breaks down what will happen if he does.

He will not win. He may be enjoying popularity right now, but he’s living in a national sympathy cocoon, ever since Maureen Dowd wrote in The New York Times that his dying son’s last wish was for his father to run. In the Washington, D.C. echo chamber it seems “everyone” loves him. Once he becomes a candidate, he will be just another politician, available for criticism and ridicule. This will be his third try for the presidency; he knows what he’s in for............


He will learn the Democratic party has changed. He’s the toast of the Morning Joe and Chris Matthews TV shows, and is highly sought after to speak before various Irish groups. But Irish Catholics, labor union rank and file, Jews, and traditional ethnic elements of the Democratic coalition are not a reliable block of votes in 2015 to be delivered to an Irish Catholic Democrat with working class roots. Today’s Democratic party is female, professional, black and Hispanic.

[MindfulOne]

1. Quick. Find us a female, professional, black Hispanic candidate!!1!11

Or maybe just a basic Bernie.

"One basic Bernie, coming right up!"

Can I get some fries with that?

[cherokeeprogressive]

2. Wow, fuck me but I don't fit the last sentence of your post AT ALL.

I guess that leaves only Bernie Sanders for me then...

[restorefreedom]

3. and pissed.

he will be another estsblishment pro iwr pol running in an antiestablishment year in a war weary country.

he will end up gutting it out with hillary for the centrists while sanders and om get the majority, who are now left of center

not his time imo

[wyldwolf]

4. It becomes a Clinton - Biden primary race.

[FloridaBlues]

5. Yep that's what it already is for the most part

[Motown_Johnny]

10. Sure it does, because the Establishment candidates are so in vogue this cycle.

Keep telling yourself that. No Democrats care about getting big money out of politics. Go ahead, just keep telling yourself that.

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/nbc-wsj-poll-anger-defines-2016-electorate-n435056

[DURHAM D]

6. Kamala Harris fits 3 of those 4. nt

[KoKo]

7. Article is an interesting read...Makes some good points.

[cprise]

8. He'll shave the top of his head and run on a nickname like 'Sandy'

And he'll get in touch with his NYC relatives and start talking more like them.

LOL!

If Biden were different from Hillary on a significant number of issues, then he might have something there. IMO, he is an establishment dupe/guarddog so HIS negatives will start to dominate once he becomes a serious candidate.

Its too bad that both Clinton and Biden are exactly the kind of candidate the Dems wanted to run for Congress in 2014. They are both 2014 Dems and will wither next to a Republican Vulcan.

Obama won handily because he was the more progressive candidate.

[Motown_Johnny]

9. His voice should be heard. He can contribute to the conversation

and I think we should leave it up to the voters to decide who wins.

I would like to see him in the debates. Our party would benefit from including another voice.


Maybe he will make Hillary look like just one more establishment cog, but that is beside the point. The debates are not there to benefit her. They should be there to inform the voters, and having Joe in them would do that.

[ancianita]

11. He's also labeled the entire liberal wing of the party as "tough on crime," which might hurt him.

See my Ta-Nehisi Coates thread on this. This is no small problem for Biden. He has to answer to both the liberal and PoC population of the Democratic Party about his past stance on the Clintons' programs of mass arrest and prison building.