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Related: About this forumTime: Clinton Allies See South Carolina as Key State
Time: Clinton Allies See South Carolina as Key StateOnce the clear Democratic frontrunner, Hillary Clinton now faces serious trouble in the first two states to vote. In Iowa, liberal Sen. Bernie Sanders has overtaken her in some recent polls, while in New Hampshire, hes ahead by as many as 16 points.
Still, Clinton has shown few signs of doubt.
That confidence may come from Clintons position in South Carolina, the fourth primary contest. As Clinton has lost steam in Iowa and New Hampshire, her lead in South Carolina has remained in the double digits, and her allies believe that it could be the place where her fortunes turn around if things go poorly in the first contests.
South Carolina appears to be shaping up to be the make or break for the whole race, said Bob Coble, former mayor of Columbia and a Clinton endorser with extensive ties in the state. With Iowa and New Hampshire being close and Sanders ahead, its going to be a pivotal state for the Democrats.
Her support in South Carolina, however, is not ironclad. Sanders has expanded his operation in the state and has shown a knack for garnering support in Iowa and New Hampshire without much establishment backing. Sanders staff is now double the size of Clintons.
Clintons support in the African-American community is real, said Diane Sumpter, an African-American businesswoman in Columbia. We know her.
Bernie Sanders is not even on my radar, Sumpter added. Hes not even in the game, in my mind.
Her supporters insist that Obamas victory had nothing to do with Clintons weaknesses, but the Clintons ruffled feathers that year with a series of remarks that stirred up accusations of racial insensitivity. Hillary appeared in an interview in January to give credit to Lyndon Johnson over Martin Luther King for the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Bill Clinton then seemed to dismiss Obamas South Carolina win and attribute it to his race, saying that Jesse Jackson had won twice in the state.
Bill Clinton has also clashed with Rep. Clyburn, perhaps the most prominent Democratic politician from the state. The day after Hillary Clinton lost the South Carolina primary, Bill called Clyburn at 2:15 in the morning, according to the Clyburns 2014 memoir.
If you bastards want a fight, you damn well will get one, Clinton reportedly told Clyburn on a the surprise phone call attacking to the congressman, who officially stayed neutral during the South Carolina primary. Clyburn writes that Clinton again exploded, used the word bastard again, and accused me of causing her defeat and injecting race into the contest.
As for the Clintons statements in 2008, People are willing to forgive in 2008 for Bills comments because theres a long history there of them helping out the African-American community, said Democratic party vice chair Melissa Watson.
Sanders has now dramatically boosted the size of his operation in the state, with a total of around 30 staff by the end of the month. Office workers stay up until 3 a.m. and 4 a.m., working the phones and organizing for the day.
In the last 10 days, Sanders staff and volunteers have knocked on 10,000 doors in African-American communities in an effort to knock a dent into Clintons support. In the three days Sanders has been in South Carolina, he has attracted crowds totaling 16,000.
Sanders gained a key supporter this month when Christale Spain, a top deputy in the South Carolina Democratic Party with key connections throughout the state, left to join his campaign.
Hillary Clintons name ID in the African American community couldnt be any better. Theyre totally saturated, said Jaime Harrison, the chair of the south Carolina Democratic Party. Shes in an enviable position.
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Time: Clinton Allies See South Carolina as Key State (Original Post)
portlander23
Sep 2015
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Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)1. Interesting take on it.
Hillary Clintons name ID in the African American community couldnt be any better. Theyre totally saturated, said Jaime Harrison, the chair of the south Carolina Democratic Party. Shes in an enviable position.
Total name recognition means no more upside, only a chance to go down as Sanders gets more name recognition and his policy messages out there.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)2. Yeah yeah
Let's talk after we finally have some debates and after bernie wins iowa and NH.SOme once doudted bernie could win Iowa.
The Clintons real record on civil rights isn't that great.Meanwhile Bernie took part In March on washington,and fought for desegration In Chicago collage campus,and supported Jesse jackson
for president.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)3. Once past East Sanderstan Hillary will dominate.