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It will be fun watching the Bernie lovers take aim at Biden. (Original Post) trumad Oct 2015 OP
It would represent political consistency to do so/ Bonobo Oct 2015 #1
. libodem Oct 2015 #2
Why shouldn't we? He and Hillary cut from the same cloth. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #3
Fucking ideological consistency. What's up with that?! jeff47 Oct 2015 #4
Don't forget the RAVE Act frylock Oct 2015 #30
Any supporter of any candidate will take aim at the opposing candidate. Autumn Oct 2015 #5
I already have ibegurpard Oct 2015 #6
It'll be fun watching diehard Hillary supporters shriek and crap their pantsuits n/t whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #7
"I already see it happening" MindfulOne Oct 2015 #13
as a precaution they need to avoid the pastels virtualobserver Oct 2015 #26
Eh... kenfrequed Oct 2015 #8
It will also be fun to watch "Clinton lovers" take aim at Biden too Armstead Oct 2015 #9
Most of them are Hillary haters Renew Deal Oct 2015 #10
I don't think we would even be talking about Biden if John Edwards hadn't made such a mess of things Snotcicles Oct 2015 #11
It will be more fun watching them switch to Biden. L. Coyote Oct 2015 #12
Switch to someone so ideologically close to Hillary? djean111 Oct 2015 #18
If I have to decide between Biden and Hillary in a primary election tularetom Oct 2015 #25
My, you're hungry today Capt. Obvious Oct 2015 #14
Well, he's going to have to actually run first. NV Whino Oct 2015 #15
The dream of '60's hipsters for a socialist paradise in America will never die! Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #16
Gotta have some hope for America. nt Snotcicles Oct 2015 #17
The gentrification of the Democratic party? BlueWaveDem Oct 2015 #19
Why are Sanders supporters so mean and nasty? frylock Oct 2015 #31
Times up: He's a racist. Major Hogwash Oct 2015 #20
Well... We're Gonna Have To Wait Our Turn... Camp Weathervane Is Already Going There... WillyT Oct 2015 #21
Back in 1991 I didn't know Bernie Sanders from adam tularetom Oct 2015 #22
Yessir... 99Forever Oct 2015 #23
Nice guy, terribly wrong policies Prism Oct 2015 #24
Not necessary AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #27
Actually it's Clinton supporters taking aim at Biden. totodeinhere Oct 2015 #28
Don't think we will have to be concernsd INdemo Oct 2015 #29
Link to where you already see it happening? frylock Oct 2015 #32
To easy. trumad Oct 2015 #33
His candidacy will sink or float based on his record, just like everybody else. <nt> AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #34
Well done! Ravens and Crows are the perfect totems for Bernie supporters! Zorra Oct 2015 #35
bernie doesn't need to "aim" restorefreedom Oct 2015 #36
The nastiest primaries are when there is little difference between the candiates karynnj Oct 2015 #37

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
1. It would represent political consistency to do so/
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 11:22 AM
Oct 2015

And it would also make sense since he would be ahead of Bernie in most polls I think.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
4. Fucking ideological consistency. What's up with that?!
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 11:25 AM
Oct 2015

Clearly Sanders supporters should love a guy who voted for the AUMF, made bankruptcy much worse, put Thomas on the SCOTUS and voted for an amendment to overturn Roe!

Autumn

(45,056 posts)
5. Any supporter of any candidate will take aim at the opposing candidate.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 11:25 AM
Oct 2015

That's the nature of the beast. Biden isn't going to run though so it's irrelevant.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
6. I already have
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 11:25 AM
Oct 2015

He's the same as Clinton on policy, less exciting, and we make no history with his candidacy. If he's "plan B" then just hand the White House keys to the pukes right now.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
8. Eh...
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 11:29 AM
Oct 2015

The real rage against Biden comes more from the Hillary camp.

Personally, as a Bernie supporter, I do not think Biden is going to run.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
9. It will also be fun to watch "Clinton lovers" take aim at Biden too
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 11:32 AM
Oct 2015

It's already started. Clinton has already shifted responsibility for her vote on the bankruptcy bill by blaming it on Biden's advice.

Renew Deal

(81,855 posts)
10. Most of them are Hillary haters
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 11:33 AM
Oct 2015

So they might egg them on knowing they will lose whether he runs or not.

 

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
11. I don't think we would even be talking about Biden if John Edwards hadn't made such a mess of things
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 11:34 AM
Oct 2015

But at least he told the president what was coming down, cuz shit sure hit the fan quick right after their meeting.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
18. Switch to someone so ideologically close to Hillary?
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 11:51 AM
Oct 2015

War, banks, wall Street? Anita Hill?
That is some wishful thinking, IMO.
Unless you really honestly believe that the only reason Bernie has supporters is because they "hate Hillary". You would be wrong, but I have seen that expressed elsewhere, that the only reason people support bernie is because they hate Hillary, and the issues do not matter.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
25. If I have to decide between Biden and Hillary in a primary election
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 11:58 AM
Oct 2015

I will let a coin do my thinking for me, because it really is a choice between twiddle dumb and twiddle dumber.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
22. Back in 1991 I didn't know Bernie Sanders from adam
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 11:56 AM
Oct 2015

But I knew that Biden was the chairman of the senate judiciary committee and the guy who groveled to Clarence Thomas during his confirmation hearings.

That was a shameful performance.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
23. Yessir...
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 11:57 AM
Oct 2015

....them meal ol Senator Sanders supporters having the audacity to use facts from a candidate's history tp vett them.


Tje fucking nerve of em!

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
24. Nice guy, terribly wrong policies
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 11:58 AM
Oct 2015

I wish him well in whatever he decides to do at the end of his vice-presidency. It's hard to dislike him personally. It's easy to dislike some of the things he's advocated - especially in regards to average Americans' financial well-being.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
28. Actually it's Clinton supporters taking aim at Biden.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 12:20 PM
Oct 2015
Hillary Clinton Camp Is Making Moves to Check Joe Biden.

Hillary Rodham Clinton’s campaign, increasingly worried about the threat of a challenge from Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., is making a sudden and urgent effort to throw roadblocks into his path.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/01/us/politics/hillary-clinton-camp-begins-to-fear-run-by-joe-biden.html

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
29. Don't think we will have to be concernsd
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 12:34 PM
Oct 2015

About that because in all probability Biden is not running. If he runs he will wait until after debate? So then what will be next reason for delay?
I think the corporate media is pushing the idea that he is running but that idea is running out of steam

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
36. bernie doesn't need to "aim"
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 03:15 PM
Oct 2015

that's the wonderful thing about having fantastic policies that people support. You just have to keep talking about them and point out the differences between your policies and the others. no reason to aim to anybody. But I understand it's difficult for Hillary supporters to understand since her candidacy is so void of substance all that is left is aim and destroy

must be a tough way to campaign

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
37. The nastiest primaries are when there is little difference between the candiates
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 03:34 PM
Oct 2015

Here there is a big difference - on issues between Bernie and Biden. I assume that any attempts to win people from Biden to Bernie will be based on issues. By that I do not mean phony issues ginned up for politics, but two very very different voting records. Bernie has been as far to the left as any Democrat -- and Biden was slightly to the right of HRC - with the likes of Evan Bayh.

I assume that most Bernie supporters will have no trouble keeping things to difference on issues, while being fully aware that Biden is a very nice man, with great integrity.

Meanwhile, he and HRC pretty much occupy the same political space -- and both have strong claims to experience at the highest level of government. There are major differences - HRC is a woman and a reason she is having problems is that she is seen as having baggage. So, where do you think Biden's supporters have to go ... and why do I think the Clintons will fire back in kind?

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