2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDo you think this place will implode on the Democratic debate night?
Been here since 01....pretty much guarantee that this will be the biggest night DU will ever see.
Admin and Mirt better have plenty of coffee.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,694 posts)mike_c
(36,213 posts)Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)demmiblue
(36,743 posts)As far as it going decfon, I think the admins are probably ahead of that possibility.
Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)otherwise it would be too venomous.
TexasTowelie
(111,288 posts)The forum hosts will need to put up a notice that threads about the debate should be directed towards GDP rather than GD.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)LiberalArkie
(15,686 posts)Although if someone does change sides, maybe DU should give a gold star to who ever that person is. I don't think it will happen though.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)I hope we have lots of chatter and laughs and nibbles. No implosion anticipated, smile.
Big ole' implosion.
Fan, meet shit.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)More so than the usual tweedle-dum vs tweedle-dee debates in past primary debates.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)I can't watch the debate at the computer; it's a desktop, I've no wi-fi, and the tv is at the other end of the house.
Number23
(24,544 posts)GD-P: Where endorsements don't matter when they come from politicians or labor groups, only when they come from Facebook. And the number of people who show up at your rallies are the REAL endorsements and are somehow infinitely more important than your ranking in the polls, particularly with minority communities.
It is even more embarassing than usual around here. And damn, that is TRULY saying something.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)And without even having to be asked, either! But I don't think that any of you ever have to.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)where the fact that "no one has heard of him" after all those years is an asset -and best of all- a poll where he tops at 20%, and "undecided" polls higher than he does, is seen as a huge victory and cause for a great celebration
It's just surreal...
Number23
(24,544 posts)Absolutely SURREAL.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)And another implosion angle is the people who never have anything interesting or intelligent to say, who do nothing all day but chase after everyone who says something they disagree with. Sad people who are drawn to you like flies to sweet, sweet honey, even after you've asked then a half dozen times to leave you alone.
They simply CANNOT resist responding to you. It's like you are catnip.
(And I'm not in any way talking about you, Jamaal.)
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)have stayed out of it for the most part so I haven't really gotten bothered. I don't have the patience for the back-and-forths, and I'm not confrontational like that. But I've been watching from the sideline how you and other posters have been harassed (and in some cases, driven to other forums) for supporting someone other than you-know-who and for simply providing links and quotes, and it looks doubtful that the admins will do much to solve the problem anytime soon. Maybe it will get better once the primaries end. Who knows...
Number23
(24,544 posts)ie the AA forum or this Hillary supporters web site that everyone is baying at the moon over with all of this INCREDIBLE "concern" over all the terrible awful things they're posting there!
And what's so stupid is that I am very much undecided at this point and I've said that more than once. But that's not even really the point. The point is very simple to me -- someone asks you REPEATEDLY to leave them alone, you do it. You just fucking do it. This is not hard. And to keep insisting that it's simply an accident or whatever that you have to keep responding to someone who has asked you several times to leave them alone is the epitome of someone with no decency, home training, social skills or worse.
Even if the admins don't do anything about any of this (and it's pretty clear by now they aren't going to and things won't get better after the primaries, Jamaal. The crowd that was anti-Obama before he was sworn in has shit on him every day since) common decency is pretty crystal clear on this. Even on a public message board, people have the right to ask you to leave them the hell alone, especially when it's clear that your "responses" to them are never the slightest bit intelligent or interesting, but intended to only harass and try to intimidate. To be asked repeatedly to stop and to refuse says everything that needs to be said about the person engaging in this behavior. And the fact that this is not anywhere near the first time this has happened to me and that in every instance it's been someone I've found to be absolutely revolting and been ECSTATIC to not be on the same side of any issue on lets me know I must be doing something right.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Rainbows and unicorns are lots more fun.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)The extent to which people who've hung around this place for 5, 10 years or more can expound on how miserably awful it is, never ceases to amaze.
Number23
(24,544 posts)someone alone and they simply refuse to do so. Hundreds and hundreds of posters here and they simply CANNOT leave the one person who has told them to shove off alone. Blissfully unaware of how ummm... "unwell" that makes them look.
I think that is far more indicative of some serious personality defects than any other behavior here and is certainly much, much worse than someone who posts on a message board about how bizarre so much of the bizarre behavior is. If my "5, 7" years of "complaining" (and it's so precious how you've apparently kept up with so many of my posts -- for YEARS apparently -- when I've never paid you the slightest bit of attention) about DU is so "miserably awful" to you, here's a tip honey, YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ IT. And you sure as shit don't have to keep responding to me.
It's like Brokeback Mountain. I wish I knew how to get you to "quit me" but considering the feeling is by NO MEANS reciprocated, I think you'll have to work on that by yourself.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Jesus, Get a grip.
If I bother you that much, put me on ignore. That's how you do it.
Otherwise you have no "right" to demand I not respond to your public posts.
Number23
(24,544 posts)what specific individuals on this web site post. Particularly specific individuals who have made it abundantly clear that they have no interest in anything they've had to say ever about anything and have asked them -- REPEATEDLY -- to leave them alone.
You are obviously the one with the problem here. So you either put ME on ignore or just leave me the hell alone. This is really not hard. And FYI, if anybody needs to get a "grip" here, it's the person panting endlessly after the posts of another poster despite being asked a half dozen times now to leave them alone, and not the one doing the asking.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Again, you post something, other people respond. That's how it works. I'm not sitting here flippin' out because you respond to my stuff.
You seem to think there's some rule here that people can just demand that certain other people never talk to them, or avoid them, or something. It doesn't work that way. The ignore function is how people get to pick who they want to listen to or not.
I don't, actually, know you from Adam, but even a couple weeks ago when I posted in response to something you said - without even giving half a thought to your username or whatever- your response was, essentially, what are YOU doing, talking to me?
guess my reputation precedes me, or something.
As for the point in question, there is a gaggle of people who have seemingly made it their mission to complain about this place, almost from the first minute it came online-- Your post reminded me of that. Yet they hang around. I don't understand it, but I think it's funny.
And when I see something that I think is funny, I comment on it.
RiffRandell
(5,909 posts)'I'm taking DU way too seriously!' which I cannot take credit for that analysis.
Halloween is coming, and the OP reminded me of Shakespeare:
Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn, and caldron bubble.
Number23
(24,544 posts)Stuff of nightmares, huh??
You should do a Google search on "scary Halloween pumpkin." There are some WILDLY imaginative ones out there. Some incredibly creative and scary people with alot of time for carving, apparently.
RiffRandell
(5,909 posts)Nice try though.
I will admit it's quite ugly!
We always carve our pumpkins without the help of Google and they are quite original and popular in our neighborhood.
Happy Halloween!
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)They just can't seem to age gracefully!
Trajan
(19,089 posts)We all have our own here, and they're no less important to us as yours may be to you ...
Cest la vie ...
Number23
(24,544 posts)okay.
Logical
(22,457 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)one_voice
(20,043 posts)that much is certain.
one_voice
(20,043 posts)that much is certain.
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Or they all do incredibly well and we're all more confused than before.
marlakay
(11,370 posts)I highly advise others do the same. Better to be proactive and meet people we can work with than to argue with each other.
I just moved so using this to find like minded dems in the area.
senz
(11,945 posts)Can't think of a nicer crowd to be with (except, of course, the Bernie Group here).
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)and looking forward to it. These folks in a nearby part of the county also want to walk downtown on a Saturday to talk about voting and Bernie Sanders.
Good place to go, mariakay.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)so that I could work up to quitting smoking. I'm solid as a rock on both.
I *will* tell you that I expect the place to continue unabated, and that MIRT will be doing their normal job behind the scenes to keep the place in order.
There will likely be some hard feelings, some passionate disagreements, and some bitter words. Through it all, though, our community will forge ahead, just as it always has.
My two cents.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Which has the added side-effect of not being on DU that night
senz
(11,945 posts)Thanks!
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)have to tune into BernieTv just to see him
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,270 posts)I'll be at a choir rehearsal, enjoying music and not thinking at all about this shit.
hack89
(39,171 posts)When dreams of President Sanders lie in ruins.
trumad
(41,692 posts)It will be very interesting to see what happens to Bernie Underground.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)On a personal note, finally something we agree on!
Actually, we probably agree on most stuff, just that the couple places we disagree keep coming up...
oasis
(49,150 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)I think Bernie is polling a little better for the same time frame, actually.
hack89
(39,171 posts)Bernie has plateaued and has shown no ability to energize POC so Super Tuesday is the end of the line for him. He cannot get the voter demographic that carried Obama to the White House.
MineralMan
(146,192 posts)Clinton supporters will think she won.
O'Malley supporters will think he won and will express surprise that everyone doesn't recognize that.
That's why I'm going to watch the debate and let DU take care of itself that day. I'll probably avoid GD the next day, too. What DU thinks about the debate is meaningless in terms of the overall primary race.
Persondem
(1,936 posts)all sides will have positives to cheer about.
MineralMan
(146,192 posts)The candidates have long experience with public speaking. People's opinions of debates always seem to reflect their opinions prior to the debates. That's why I don't see them as very influential. Democratic candidates are rather similar in their positions, really. I do it any minds will be changed, frankly.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)I'd bet a million dollars that's exactly whats going to happen!
MineralMan
(146,192 posts)We've seen it happen before.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)change anyone's mind except the undecided I guess.
Most people that are into politics have picked their candidate a long time ago.
I can't imagine Bernie saying anything that would make me change my vote.
Getting those undecided/not really interested in politics people to sit down and actually watch a debate is the trick.
JI7
(89,173 posts)Gothmog
(143,998 posts)Hopefully things will have calmed down
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)frazzled
(18,402 posts)Everyone will insist their candidate "won." Everything will remain the same. (That is to say, pretty nasty.)
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Election night 2008 just about crashed the servers as I recall.