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Former Maryland Gov. Martin OMalleys presidential polling woes extend to his home state, where he takes only 2 percent support in the race for the Democratic nomination, according to a new poll.
A Goucher College poll released Tuesday shows Hillary Clinton leading the field in Maryland with 43 percent support, followed by Vice President Biden at 23 percent, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) at 17 percent, and OMalley, tied with former Virginia Sen. Jim Webb, at 2 percent.
Those results mirror OMalleys struggles nationally. According to the RealClearPolitics average, he is stuck in the bottom tier of candidates at only .6 percent support.
Although Martin OMalley was a popular two-term governor among Democrats in the state, his campaigns difficulties in gaining traction nationwide are reflected in Maryland, said Mileah Kromer, the director of Goucher Colleges political institute.
OMalley served two terms as mayor of Baltimore, and two terms as governor of Maryland, ending in 2015. He launched his presidential bid from Baltimore in late May.
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HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)But it just shows how much power the media can have on an election. You have to wonder if he'll consider dropping out after the debate if his numbers don't improve.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)murielm99
(30,656 posts)I like him, but he does not have a snowball's chance.
I hope he goes far in Democratic politics. We still need him even if he does not stand a chance at the Presidency.
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)so I'm wondering if this poll was all on-campus or just sponsored by them. I would expect a very heavy HRC bias at Goucher.
Being a Marylander I can say, O'Malley is not unpopular here. That is a distortion of some kind.
Godhumor
(6,437 posts)Or similar institution.
It is not an on-campus poll.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)I'm not really good at reading these things but it looks like they polled about 50% women.
http://www.goucher.edu/Documents/Poli_Sci/hughes/Fall%202015%20Goucher%20Poll%20Release%20%28Tuesday%29%20FINAL.pdf
Maryland Democrats aren't choosing Martin O'Malley for president.
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FSogol
(45,356 posts)Kang Colby
(1,941 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)elleng
(130,126 posts)But referring to the 2012 legislation in question as a tax on rain is misleading. The Post wrote in an editorial that the "rain tax" is "a good applause line" but "a tougher sell on the merits":
The "rain tax" is, in fact, a federally mandated levy on pollution caused by storm water run-off, one of the main culprits in the tragic, decades-long environmental degradation of the Chesapeake Bay. Established by state legislation passed in 2012, the tax applies to the state's 10 most heavily populated urban and suburban jurisdictions, places with an abundance of hard surfaces -- parking lots, roads, driveways. In those built-up places, storm water carrying sediment, nutrients, trash and a variety of other pollutants washes into nearby streams and rivers, which drain into the bay. Revenues from the tax are meant to help localities adopt programs and build infrastructure to limit the damage from that runoff in order to protect the body of water.
The Baltimore Sun wrote in a June 2014 editorial that "rain tax" claims are "nonsense" since "Maryland does not tax the rain. It has directed its 10 most populous jurisdictions to raise revenue to pay for stormwater management upgrades that will prevent pollution from choking the Chesapeake Bay, per federal environmental regulations." Washington Post reporter Jenna Johnson wrote in a fact check article that "it's more of a pollution tax than a rain tax."
The nonprofit Chesapeake Bay Foundation called the "rain tax" moniker "blatantly false," stating: "The truth is that we are talking about a fee to reduce pollution from water that washes off hard surfaces and empties into local waterways. Runoff pollution is real--it is responsible for no-swimming advisories and beach closures in local waters, fish consumption advisories, and dead zones in the Bay that can't support aquatic life. It also causes localized flooding and property damage. And in many areas, it is the largest source of pollution."
The misleading "rain tax" talking point has repeatedly been used by Maryland Republicans, especially during Larry Hogan's successful run for Maryland governor. In May, Hogan signed SB 863, the "Rain Tax Mandate Repeal (Watershed Protection and Restoration Programs, Revision), which repeals the requirement that forces local jurisdictions to collect a stormwater remediation fee, and instead authorizes such jurisdictions to do so." The Sun reported that "environmentalists worked to get the proposal from an outright repeal of stormwater fees to the version that passed."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/fact-check-did-maryland-lt-gov-anthony-g-brown-really-tax-the-rain/2014/09/07/4e587672-36bd-11e4-9c9f-ebb47272e40e_story.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/md-gop-attacks-on-the-rain-tax-ignore-the-risk-of-runoff-pollution-to-the-chesapeake/2014/08/11/de1a45ba-215f-11e4-8593-da634b334390_story.html
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2014-06-26/news/bs-ed-hogan-brown-ad-20140626_1_republican-larry-hogan-ad-tax-hikes
http://www.cbf.org/about-cbf/offices-operations/annapolis-md/the-issues/annapolis-maryland/the-issues/stormwater-fee#rain-tax
The Rain Tax is actually a TAX ON POLLUTION.
Kang Colby
(1,941 posts)None.
ram2008
(1,238 posts)Might be able to break through. Although, not sure that helps his chances.
one_voice
(20,043 posts)and look forward to the debates. The more people say he should drop out, he's getting more attention than he deserves, or that he has no right to challenge the other candidates the more I hope he kicks ass in the debates.
Thought I was on another site for a minute...
elleng
(130,126 posts)There are a few DUers who, it appears, would like him to drop out, but I somehow doubt he will take their advice.
I expect him to do very well in the debates.
FSogol
(45,356 posts)elleng
(130,126 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)Kang Colby
(1,941 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Poll: Bernie Sanders popular in Vt., even among Republicans
Sep 18, 2015
Presidential candidate Bernie Sanders remains popular in Vermont, even among Republicans-- that's according to a new poll from the Castleton Polling Institute.
When asked who they hope to see elected president in 2016, Vermont Democrats overwhelmingly support Sanders at 65 percent. Hillary Clinton gets 14 percent support.
There is no clear favorite among Vermont Republicans, but the Socialist Sanders is tied with Donald Trump and Ben Carson at 12 percent.
As for who Vermonters expect to win: Clinton is favored to win the Democratic nomination and Jeb Bush tops the list on the GOP side.