2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThree new Quinnipiac polls out today - Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania
Clinton retains her clear lead in all three, but the surprising thing is that Biden is SECOND in each!
Florida:
Clinton 43
Biden 19
Sanders 19
Ohio:
Clinton 40
Biden 21
Sanders 19
Pennsylvania:
Clinton 36
Biden 25
Sanders 19
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... president/
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)We should have all the democrats, because all the supporters like you and elleng matter. It isn't over for him, yet.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)And, I am not worried. I predict a significant bump after the first debate ... he has Bernie's progressivism/populism, and HRC's chops ... without either of their baggage.
The sky, well, nomination is the limit!
artislife
(9,497 posts)Lets hope the people win!
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)so long as we see a Democrat in the Whitehouse in 2016.
Tommy2Tone
(1,307 posts)Interesting that Sanders is virtually tied or behind with Biden.
George II
(67,782 posts)....go to realclearpolitics.com, they're on their home page.
George II
(67,782 posts)Renew Deal
(81,847 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)It's not nice!
artislife
(9,497 posts)Remember, Bill wasn't the front runner at this time either. I will wait until the New Year to get a better read on the election.
deadlinetony
(48 posts)He has not announced and will not be participating on October 13th debate. Why continue polling Biden?
WheelWalker
(8,954 posts)his inclusion made no difference, he would soon be eliminated. I suspect you are really just disappointed that he polls so well. If he wasn't polling well, either he'd be left out or you wouldn't care. Am I correct?
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Seeing as she would get most of Joe's voters.
Gamecock Lefty
(700 posts)To third place!!!
stonecutter357
(12,694 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)When it comes to the Democratic primaries--the only polls that truly matter, are those taken in states where the candidates have been actively campaigning and where elections are within a few months.
Sanders is actually doing better NOW against Clinton--than Obama was at this time in the process.
Obama never outpolled Hillary in Iowa, until a couple of weeks before the Iowa caucuses. Sanders all ready is leading Hillary, by double digits, and they caucuses are in three months.
At this time, during the 2008 primary campaign--Obama was behind in all national polls and he certainly was in the states touted in OP: Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania.
These polls mean nothing. The only polls that are meaningful are the ones taken in states where the candidates are actively campaigning and focusing on upcoming elections in those states.
I'd also like to add, that Hillary repeatedly used this tactic--to suggest that she was the stronger candidate and that Obama could not win a national race. She was wrong on all accounts.
Cherry picking polls that are meaningless because their numbers will re-set once the candidate campaigns go full throttle in those states--is desperate.
We've seen this trick before. I guess we'll be seeing a lot of it again.
George II
(67,782 posts)Last two released polls for Iowa:
9/30 NBC/WSJ/Marist - Clinton 47, Sanders 36, Biden 0
9/20 PPP - Clinton 43, Sanders 22, Biden 17
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Was November 14 , 2007 a couple of weeks before the Iowa caucus?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/ia/iowa_democratic_caucus-208.html#polls
Thank you in advance.
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