2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumObama 48%, Romney 46% (new PPP national poll)
Conducted August 2-5 among Registered Voters.
http://www.dailykos.com/weeklypolling/2012/8/2
pnwmom
(108,976 posts)Both polls are within the margin of error, but I'd still rather see Obama on top -- even if it is a statistical tie.
mike_c
(36,281 posts)I don't usually pay attention to polling so forgive me if I'm showing my ignorance, but I cannot imagine a more telling statistic about the vapid stupidity of nearly half of American voters. In a rational world, Romney would be polling in single digits, a strong favorite of the comatose and brain-dead crowd. But no one else. I presume much of his support comes from conservative ideologues who vote republican no matter how crappy the candidate, and some who profess anticipation of a Romney presidency solely because it gets the black family out of the White House, but still. Forty-six percent? Really?
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)I was in '08 and I am in '12. We'll see if they're right - but I'm guessing they're not.
And I'm not talkin' their state polls. Just their national polls. I think their state polls are generally good. National, though? I'm skeptical.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)I have faith in their individual state polls, but not sure if they have proved themselves with national poll numbers (for instance I think the 59-39 Latino vote for Obama is way too close, especially when their Colorado numbers with Lations was something like 67-21 in their state poll). I feel the same way about Quinnipiac--I like their state polls, but don't think they have had a lot of experience with national polls. When it comes to national polls the one I trust most is Pew.
State polls are one of best even when It looks bad for our side.Q's state polls too are very good.
For all those trying to fault Pew they were very much on the money In 2008.
And If Obama Is winning swingstates like PPP and Q suggest Pew may be closer to reality nationwide than some want to admit.
Marzupialis
(398 posts)Any reason?
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Which were hit & miss that year. I don't know. I think their state polls are generally reliable. But national polls, I'm not so sure. I've noticed PPP's national polls change wildly in sample size - from 700 RV one month to 1,200 the next. That's not very consistent and sometimes offers up the lowest sample size of any national poll. But who knows. They could be spot on.
Broderick
(4,578 posts)Ras has Mitt up 1 or so.
PPP showing 2 for Obama.
They are all over the place.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Broderick
(4,578 posts)Thanks for the update.