2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThese People Are the Secret to Bernie Sanders’s Success
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How did Sanders pull ahead? His supporters in New Hampshire were happy to talk about what motivated them. But the more I heard, the more I realized that the Sanders campaign really was differentand not just because it had less money. As anyone who has ever watched The War Room can tell you, maintaining message discipline is crucial to a winning campaign. (Remember Its the economy, stupid?) Which in turn means a tight, top-down command structure to keep everyone on message.
The Sanders campaign is nothing like that. Look below the waterline and instead of a single streamlined operation, you find twin hulls. One is a professionally run, locally focused effort where the candidates position on the Northern Pass (a controversial plan to build a high-voltage power line through the state) is as important as his views on immigration and taxes. The other is a parallel structure, a volunteer-based reservoir of energy, talent, and enthusiasm that propelled a senator from a tiny state into a national figure. Ive come to think of this operation as the Sanders second shift.
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In an age when social media have been creditedor blamedfor everything from the Arab Spring to the decline of Western civilization, its important to be clear: Facebook likes wont get anyone elected. But social medias low entry costs have allowed what, at least at this point, remains a decentralized, volunteer-driven guerrilla campaign to challenge the Clinton machine. You need a lot of people doing stuff for free, says King, whose earliest political memory is of when my mom took me to Washington to protest against the Iraq War.
Daniela Perdomo. (Jane Hu)
Until she found her way to the Sanders subreddit. Suddenly, I heard conversations no one in my office was talking about, she says. But when she tried to research Sanderss record, all I found were dismissive news stories. So I decided to build a website optimized for search and social media. Before she knew it, Perdomo had 125 volunteers, and in 32 days had made FeeltheBern.org. This is support you cannot buy. It can only be free, Perdomo says. Since its launch on August 12, the website has garnered over 2 million views.
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https://www.thenation.com/article/these-people-are-the-secret-to-bernie-sanderss-success/
This is a good read.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,349 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,349 posts)and I believe for that matter the peoples' favor.
How Bernie Sanders is reaching out to black voters. Is it working?
"I also know that there is an enormous amount of disgust in the African-American community with regards to certain police departments. We need to demilitarize local police departments so that they do not look like occupying armies. We want police departments that look like the communities they are serving," he added.
There are signs that his outreach could be working.
Back in June, a Suffolk University/USA Today poll showed that only 2 percent of black respondents would be willing to vote for Sanders in the primaries, and 77 percent would support Hillary Clinton.
By Oct. 1, support for Mrs. Clinton had plummeted among black respondents she was down 37 points, to 40 percent and Sanders was up 15 points to 17 percent, according to the poll.
And Sanders' favorability rating among black respondents in the Suffolk University/USA Today poll had risen 42 percentage points since July.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2015/1006/How-Bernie-Sanders-is-reaching-out-to-black-voters.-Is-it-working
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)But at this rate, Bernie is getting a little better than republican numbers among Black folks.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)aren't feeling Bernie's economic primacy message.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Clinton has tea with the super-wealthy.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)this, for me, and a majority of PoC, IS about race.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)both in plan, and execution. At the very least, he doesn't preach economic primacy.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Even with the gains we have made under President Obama's administration it has not been enough (and I give him a lot of credit for doing what he has). We were circle jerked so hard for 8 years under Bush that it fucking cratered the economy. Electing a DLC conservadem is not going to get us shit. We need a progressive president and Congress.
It is NOT just Sanders saying this. Robert Reich also has been saying the same types of things. You remember him? Short guy, beard, served in President Bill Clinton's Administration. Maybe you think he's nuts too.
If you are happy with poor people living off minimum wage jobs that can't support themselves, please by all means ignore the calls by both Sanders and Reich.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Martin O'Malley is not a DLC conservadem.
We get half of that with O'Malley ... a progressive President. And more, we would get a President that can work WITH the Congress to actually get stuff done.
Huh? ... Martin O'Malley (and HRC, for that matter) has a plan to raise the minimum wage to a "livable wage" and O'Malley has the legislative chops and history of getting it done.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)a "livable wage".
Yes Gov O'Malley is more progressive than HRC, but right now he is merely helping HRC out by taking votes away from Sen Sanders. And when he concedes, who do you think he will endorse?
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)she indicates raising the M/W to $12.00/hr. It's less than both, O'Malley and Bernie, but it's borderline "Livable" per economists.
I don't know ... But I do not expect him to concede after his post-debate bump.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Not as bad as Obama's $10.10 bullcrap. At any time I expect HRC to say, "let them eat cake."
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I said nothing about any other candidate specifically, but I will tell you my comment was not about O'Malley. If it came down to it, O'Malley would be my second choice.
My point is that the economy should be an important issue because income equality has gotten worse and the 1% have continued to screw the rest of us.
Again I point out that it is not only Sanders saying this about the economy, but also Robert Reich.
I'm sure this will go in ear and out the other, so I'm not sure why I bother.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Martin O'Malley is my FIRST choice.
Again I point out that it is not only Sanders saying this about the economy, but also Robert Reich.
Agreed ... and, it has only gotten worse over the last 30 years. But, I don't understand why you are bring that noise to me? My candidate has a plan and the chops of both of his opponents with a fraction of the baggage.
I'm sure this will go in ear and out the other, so I'm not sure why I bother ... tomorrow, you will accuse me of being a HRC supporter.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Martin O'Malley deals with race matters very well ...
both in plan, and execution. At the very least, he doesn't preach economic primacy.
My problem is people minimize the economic problems. Sanders is highlighting them and has been vocal about them. So has Robert Reich which you would see if you subscribe to his feed on Facebook (I don't know, maybe you aren't on Facebook. Even then he has a blog that has most of the same stuff).
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)My problem is people that minimize racial problems. Martin O'Malley hasn't done that.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)helping the racial issues in this country than any other candidate. You berate the fight for economic justice, which is essential for social justice. I agree that it's possible to have economic justice without social justice but not the other way around. Social justice issues have been advancing slowly but their progressive is stymied by economic problems. Having almost half America's children living in low income homes with half that amount living in poverty, isn't an economic problem, it's a social justice problem.
Sen Sanders is fighting for economic justice as well as social justice. His major challenger is fighting to continue the status quo that has given us loss of jobs, poverty, and a justice system that see corporations making profits off of incarcerating black Americans.
I think you are anti-Sanders if not anti-progressive.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)really. what is the point of this?
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)I can see from my Twitter feed that Bernie's found a lot of new support from the black community.
bobbobbins01
(1,681 posts)You should check it out.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)you are not equating sanders with them, are you? if so, how are they even similar?
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Making the point that marching with Martin is of near zero value TODAY. (This is not to comment on Bernie, at all, other than to acknowledge that he marched with Martin)
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)People are ridiculed if they mention that anyone marched with him. To me that discredits his work.
BTW if you haven't noticed Bernie Sanders is constantly adjusting his message to the race issues, then you need to stop long enough to read up on it.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)No, it doesn't. Well ... maybe, if you can explain how doing something 50+ years ago is relevant to today.
I have noticed and have acknowledged his evolution. It is incomplete, but he's getting there.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Here, I'll type it for you: Okay.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Diminish the legacy of Dr. King? Please tell me.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)bobbobbins01
(1,681 posts)Now I name three?
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Unlike those two, Bernie has remained committed to the progressive cause.
It's a weird thing when you try to denigrate having marched for justice with MLK.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)Or is that the point? After a few dozen iterations, they become tiresome, predictable, and boring. I'll bet you can do better than that, 1StrongBlackMan.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)It is to let the person know I read their comment and do not wish to reply, substantively.
ETA: Thank you for the feedback. I will try to do better.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)though I would be surprised (with his current outreach strategy) if it tops 20%.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)This is the line to get tickets to see Bernie in Colorado.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,349 posts)Peace to you.
You too! This is so wonderful!
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)Thanks for posting this!
Uncle Joe
(58,349 posts)Autumn
(45,049 posts)You can't buy enthusiasm like that.
Uncle Joe
(58,349 posts)Peace to you.
Autumn
(45,049 posts)Peace to you Uncle Joe.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Thank you for the link, Uncle Joe. Love the article.
Uncle Joe
(58,349 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)I'm sure it went over well in the board room.
think4yourself
(837 posts)Thanks for sharing!
Uncle Joe
(58,349 posts)Peace to you.
ion_theory
(235 posts)magical thyme
(14,881 posts)no wonder they want to grab control of it!
Uncle Joe
(58,349 posts)the PTBs and corporate supremacists view the Internet as a direct threat and placing too much power in the hands of the people.
The Internet is fire, providing light, warmth and protection for the people, that's why the corporate media pawned their journalistic integrity and were so intent on slandering and/or libeling Al Gore back in the day for the better part of two years without actually him credit for his legislative accomplishments, had they given him credit he would've been President in 2000.
The corporate media saw the writing on the wall in 1998 and played Zeus's vulture to Gore's Prometheus.
Peace to you, magical thyme.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Last edited Wed Oct 7, 2015, 06:29 PM - Edit history (1)
Scary.
bananas
(27,509 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,349 posts)emsimon33
(3,128 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Perdomo's story is a good one. Thanks for sharing.
Uncle Joe
(58,349 posts)Peace to you, madfloridian.
TM99
(8,352 posts)today is an InfoBomb for Sanders across social media. I just signed up to have it auto-Tweet this evening.
This is making a difference in a big, big way!
LiberalArkie
(15,713 posts)members will see which way the wind is blowing. If indeed that happens, I believe a lot of new senate and house members will be elected and they will know which way the wind blew. I know several people are running in Arkansas as progressives. I imagine the same is happening in most states. If Bernie wins, he will have no problem with congress because they will know that something has happened and things are a little different now.
Uncle Joe
(58,349 posts)It would be exceptionally difficult for them to dispute the crystal clarity of Bernie's message and mandate.
I believe Bernie's election would change the political dynamic like nothing since Reagan came to power and go a large way toward draining the toxic swamp of Reaganism.
Peace to you.
senz
(11,945 posts)but these clear-sighted young people keep it light and friendly. They're just what we need.
It looks like a good read. Will do so when there's more time, but thank you Uncle Joe, for posting it.
Uncle Joe
(58,349 posts)with the Internet and as a result having an inherent stronger sense of empowerment.
Earlier generations; were too encapsulated in the corporate media bubble and thus either succumbed to right wing propaganda or became disillusioned with the possibility of meaningful change and in turn became more cynical or even embittered.
It is a good read, senz thanks for posting and peace to you.