So it appears both Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton are very similar!

[Cali_Democrat]

- Both oppose TPP.
- Both want to strengthen gun laws.
- Both support reigning in Wall Street.
- Both support comprehensive immigration reform.
- Both support the CFPB.
- Both want to increase taxes on the wealthy.
- Both support marriage equality.
- Both support criminal justice reform.
- Both support a womans right to choose.
- Both support campaign finance reform and overturning citizens united.
- Both want to make college more affordable for students.
- Both oppose Keystone XL.
- Both believe climate change is a threat and are supportive of clean energy.
- Both support strengthening social security and medicare.
- Both want to provide affordable healthcare to all Americans.
- Both are opposed to GOP voter suppression and new voter ID laws targeting blacks.

WOW! Two great candidates!!!

[1StrongBlackMan]

1. THREE great candidates ...

Don't forget about Martin O'Malley!!!!!

- All three oppose TPP.
- All three want to strengthen gun laws.
- All three support reigning in Wall Street.
- All three support a comprehensive immigration reform.
- All three support the CFPB.
- All three want to increase taxes on the wealthy.
- All three support marriage equality.
- All three support criminal justice reform.
- All three support a womans right to choose.
- All three support campaign finance reform and overturning citizens united.
- All three want to make college more affordable for students.
- All three oppose Keystone XL.
- All three believe climate change is a threat and are supportive of clean energy.
- All three support strengthening social security and medicare.
- All three want to provide affordable healthcare to all Americans.
- All three are opposed to GOP voter suppression and new voter ID laws targeting blacks.

Guess we'll have to look to see how the various candidates plan to get things done ... White Papers, please!

[elleng]

3. DITTO, Man!!!

[Cali_Democrat]

6. thank you!

[MoonRiver]

7. Yes, O'M is great!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. I am disappointed with her TPP shift

Globalization is inevitable. We should try to make it work for everybody. I suspect HRC didn't think it was a hill she was willing to die on. I can empathize with that.

[1StrongBlackMan]

10. I kind of agree ...

I suspect TPP will be like all agreements among multiple parties ... there will be some good and some bad; but, nothing great or truly horrible.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. I once made a list of issues that are dear to me or hills I would die on

I once made a list of issues that are dear to me or hills I would die on and TPP, Keystone, and reinstating Glass-Steagall aren't on that list.

Things like

-Everybody should have access to quality health care regardless of ability to pay
- Everybody is entitled to a secure retirement and to retire at a reasonable age
-Full equality for everybody under the law
-A living wage for a hard days work
- Amnesty for undocumented workers
-Affirmative action but I would also add class based affirmative action. Ironically, white women are the largest beneficiaries of affirmative action. Nothing wrong with that but I would like to see all groups left behind helped.
...

are

[1StrongBlackMan]

13. I doubt ...

TPP, Keystone, and reinstating Glass-Steagall are on anyone's top 50 list ... except on the internet.

[elleng]

2. You missed Martin O'Malley, Cali_Democrat,

and he's already accomplished many of these goals already.

1. Ended death penalty in Maryland
2. Prevented fracking in Maryland and put regulations in the way to prevent next GOP Gov Hogan fom easily allowing fracking.
3. Provided health insurance for 380,000
4. Reduced infant mortality to an all time low.
5. Provided meals to thousands of hungry children and moved toward a goal for eradicating childhood hunger.
6. Enacted a $10.10 living wage and a $11. minimum wage for State workers.
7. Supporter the Dream Act
8. Cut income taxes for 86% of Marylanders (raised taxes on the rich).
9. Reformed Maryland’s tax code to make it more progressive.
10. Enacted some of the nation’s most comprehensive reforms to protect homeowners from foreclosure.

Mother Jones magazine called him the best candidate on environmental issues.
Article here:
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/12/martin-omalley-longshot-presidential-candidate-and-real-climate-hawk

[ion_theory]

4. Though I'm still a Bernie guy, I can say I'm damn proud to call myself a progressive today.

I really hope Hillary puts some actions behind those words and does all she can to stop this 'trade deal.' Still believe if Bernie and O'Malley weren't pulling her to the left she would have backed the TPP. Regardless, she's doing the right thing and I support her here.

[zappaman]

5. I'll happily vote for either of them or O'Malley.

Yes, they have far more in common with each other than differences.

[bahrbearian]

8. Similar today until the weather changes.

[beam me up scottie]

12. Still concerned about her pro-death penalty stance.

Both Martin and Bernie are anti-death penalty.

[MindfulOne]

15. Super PACs. They're worlds apart on campaign finance.

amiright?

[Doctor_J]

14. A little typo

Both support reigning in Wall Street.

Bernie supports reining in Wall Street. Hillary supports letting Wall Street reign.


and then

Bernie supports healthcare as a right. Hillary supports for-profit health insurance as a law

Bernie supports expanding social security and medicare. Hillary's "strengthen" most likely means privatizing and cutting benefits

Bernie has supported marriage equality for 30 years. Hillary has supported for 3 years

Bernie, along with a majority of dems, has opposed TPP since it was revealed. Hillary has opposed it for a few hours, and even this opposition is "for now".

Bernie wants to do away with for-profit prisons. Hillary gets millions of campaign bucks from for-profit prisons.

A president needs to take the lead on important issues, not take a poll.

[DanTex]

19. Wow, could you fit more falsehoods into a single post? Let's see...

Hillary supports letting Wall Street reign.
This is absurd, she's come out clearly in favor of expanding Dodd-Frank and increasing regulation.

Bernie supports healthcare as a right. Hillary supports for-profit health insurance as a law
The closest you came to a factual statement. Hillary supports expanding ACA, which combines private and public coverage in a way similar to several European countries, whereas Bernie wants to make it all public. Both support universal coverage, just different ways to get there.

Hillary's "strengthen" most likely means privatizing and cutting benefit.
Total nonsense, she never advocated either, and is on record wanting to expand SS.

Bernie, along with a majority of dems, has opposed TPP since it was revealed. Hillary has opposed it for a few hours, and even this opposition is "for now".
Umm, first of all, TPP was only revealed a few hours ago, and Hillary's statement came shortly thereafter. Also, most Dems support TPP by 51-26.

Hillary gets millions of campaign bucks from for-profit prisons.
Total fabrication. First of all, it's not nearly millions. Second of all, it didn't come from for-profit prisons. What happened was that a few (two, I think) people who bundled 100K or so for her worked at firms that had represented for-profit prisons. The amount that for-profit prisons actually donated to her campaign is zero.

[Doctor_J]

29. I tend to believe Senator Sanders more than Secretary weathervane

“We disagree on Wall Street and what we should do, whether or not we should break up large banks. We disagree about how high the minimum wage should go… We disagree about our college plans… And we disagree on trade,” - Sanders yesterday with Chris Hayes.

And then there's prisons, whether healthcare costs should include billions in profits for a few CEOs, and charter schools. Mrs. Clinton is closer to Bush than she is to Sanders. As for this

Umm, first of all, TPP was only revealed a few hours ago, and Hillary's statement came shortly thereafter.

Somehow almost everyone (except she who negotiated it) knew about it and had an opinion. Oh, wait. She spoke in favor of it 45 times. So was yesterday's big announcement the result of cluelessness, or yet another flip-flop?

Seriously, how can you trust anything she says?

[eridani]

16. Except for one leading and the other following n/t

[cherokeeprogressive]

17. New campaign ad: Vote for Hillary - She's just like Bernie... Today.

[Go Vols]

28. Yep

[DisgustipatedinCA]

18. Clinton supporters on this site don't seem to agree on some of these points

- Both want to strengthen gun laws.
We're told Bernie is a gun nut.
- Both support reigning in Wall Street.
We're told that Bernie is a tool of Wall Street and does not wish to rein them in.
- Both support comprehensive immigration reform.
We're told that Bernie hates immigrants and wants to dump nuclear waste on them.
- Both support marriage equality.
We're told that Sanders is against gay marriage.
- Both want to make college more affordable for students.
We're told Bernie wants to send 1% kids to college gratis
- Both are opposed to GOP voter suppression and new voter ID laws targeting blacks.
We're told that African Americans hate Sanders.

We're told lots of things by Clinton supporters.

[Tipperary]

20. I think you mean "reining in Wall Street."

"reigning in Wall Street" has a vastly different meaning, otherwise I would not point it out. "Reigning" is what monarchs do.

"Reining" is like curbing, slowing, as in with a horse.

I would hate to think either of them want to "reign" in Wall Street. There are those here who think one of them already does, but I am not one of those.


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[whatchamacallit]

21. Many have said a benefit of Bernie's run would be dragging Hillary to the left

Too bad it's mostly for show. I'm choosing the dragger not the dragged.

[Chan790]

22. One of them is not credible.

She has a history of facing whichever direction the wind blows when running and pointing straight towards Wall Street's interests once in office.

[merrily]

23. LMAO nt

[Live and Learn]

24. Amazing, isn't it? nt

[merrily]

25. Nothing DU amazes me anymore. Amuses, maybe; amazes, no.

[Jester Messiah]

26. Oh, is that her platform today?

Good to know. Keep us updated, won't you?

[TBF]

27. Well for one it's more like "reigning on" Wall Street -

reigning, reining ...

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