2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumO'Malley, Sanders, Clinton at Dem Candidates 'forum,'
SC, November (???) didn't catch the date, but clearly an 'adjustment' to Dem party's miserly debate schedule;
will be moderated by Rachel.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)elleng
(130,865 posts)FSogol
(45,481 posts)Kang Colby
(1,941 posts)Honestly, I will be shocked if he doesn't drop out before then. Polling 2% in Maryland now. His discrimatory policies as Baltimore's mayor and grand scheme to tax the rain didn't win him any fans here.
He shouldn't be allowed to stand beside truly accomplished politicians like HRC or even Bernie.
elleng
(130,865 posts)Among other things, more than most elected officials, Martin O'Malley
1. Ended death penalty in Maryland
2. Prevented fracking in Maryland and put regulations in the way to prevent next GOP Gov Hogan fom easily allowing fracking.
3. Provided health insurance for 380,000
4. Reduced infant mortality to an all time low.
5. Provided meals to thousands of hungry children and moved toward a goal for eradicating childhood hunger.
6. Enacted a $10.10 living wage and a $11. minimum wage for State workers.
7. Supporter the Dream Act
8. Cut income taxes for 86% of Marylanders (raised taxes on the rich).
9. Reformed Marylands tax code to make it more progressive.
10. Enacted some of the nations most comprehensive reforms to protect homeowners from foreclosure.
Mother Jones magazine called him the best candidate on environmental issues.
Article here:
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/12/martin-omalley-longshot-presidential-candidate-and-real-climate-hawk
AND, for those interested in FACTS, But referring to the 2012 legislation in question as a tax on rain is misleading. The Post wrote in an editorial that the "rain tax" is "a good applause line" but "a tougher sell on the merits":
The "rain tax" is, in fact, a federally mandated levy on pollution caused by storm water run-off, one of the main culprits in the tragic, decades-long environmental degradation of the Chesapeake Bay. Established by state legislation passed in 2012, the tax applies to the state's 10 most heavily populated urban and suburban jurisdictions, places with an abundance of hard surfaces -- parking lots, roads, driveways. In those built-up places, storm water carrying sediment, nutrients, trash and a variety of other pollutants washes into nearby streams and rivers, which drain into the bay. Revenues from the tax are meant to help localities adopt programs and build infrastructure to limit the damage from that runoff in order to protect the body of water.
The Baltimore Sun wrote in a June 2014 editorial that "rain tax" claims are "nonsense" since "Maryland does not tax the rain. It has directed its 10 most populous jurisdictions to raise revenue to pay for stormwater management upgrades that will prevent pollution from choking the Chesapeake Bay, per federal environmental regulations." Washington Post reporter Jenna Johnson wrote in a fact check article that "it's more of a pollution tax than a rain tax."
The nonprofit Chesapeake Bay Foundation called the "rain tax" moniker "blatantly false," stating: "The truth is that we are talking about a fee to reduce pollution from water that washes off hard surfaces and empties into local waterways. Runoff pollution is real--it is responsible for no-swimming advisories and beach closures in local waters, fish consumption advisories, and dead zones in the Bay that can't support aquatic life. It also causes localized flooding and property damage. And in many areas, it is the largest source of pollution."
The misleading "rain tax" talking point has repeatedly been used by Maryland Republicans, especially during Larry Hogan's successful run for Maryland governor. In May, Hogan signed SB 863, the "Rain Tax Mandate Repeal (Watershed Protection and Restoration Programs, Revision), which repeals the requirement that forces local jurisdictions to collect a stormwater remediation fee, and instead authorizes such jurisdictions to do so." The Sun reported that "environmentalists worked to get the proposal from an outright repeal of stormwater fees to the version that passed."
I live in MD, and support him strongly. I'm sure he'll answer all the questions anyone asks him.
Kang Colby
(1,941 posts)But I respect that you are and I won't comment about the rain tax anymore. But if that gets you so riled up, what do you think the GOP spin machine will do to a weaker candidate like Martin?
Thanks
FSogol
(45,481 posts)You exaggerate as much as other cheese-related critics.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)elleng
(130,865 posts)one_voice
(20,043 posts)gateley
(62,683 posts)It's not a debate with all three of them, but each will come out individually and answer Rachel's questions. I'm looking forward to it!
elleng
(130,865 posts)and so did lots of others. I'm looking forward to it too!
askew
(1,464 posts)I can see her favoring Hillary or if she asks all 3 the same questions, Hillary will get to go last and know what the questions are.
elleng
(130,865 posts)tho she'll try to appear to be fair. I've noticed an hrc bias in her show, and am concerned about the format of this one.
We'll see, as this follows the 'real' debate.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)So this must mean that Rachel is stumping for O'Malley. Smart choice. The more he is seen, the better he will look to people who do not like Clinton and who are scared of Sanders.
elleng
(130,865 posts)As much as I respect her, seems to me she's been much more interested in hrc, but she'll surely give him (them all, probably) fair opportunities during this 'event.'
and I agree, more exposure only helps MO'M.