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Related: About this forumHillary, I Don't Believe You Oppose the TPP
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ian-fletcher/hillary-i-dont-believe-yo_b_8261452.htmlSo, Hillary Clinton, you've just come out in opposition to the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
Respectfully, Madam Secretary, I don't believe a single word of this. I think this is pure politics, caused by having Sen. Sanders nipping at your heels from the left.
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Anyway, you've obviously been spooked. And now you have to shore up your credibility with your liberal base by opposing the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
Which in large part you negotiated, when you were Obama's Secretary of State. You think the public doesn't realize that your fingerprints are all over this thing? What do people think the Secretary of State does, for heaven's sake? Negotiate the nation's treaties, among other things. And you were the good soldier, plugging away at this agreement, for years and years before you suddenly didn't like it.
Respectfully, Madam Secretary, I don't believe a single word of this. I think this is pure politics, caused by having Sen. Sanders nipping at your heels from the left.
...
Anyway, you've obviously been spooked. And now you have to shore up your credibility with your liberal base by opposing the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
Which in large part you negotiated, when you were Obama's Secretary of State. You think the public doesn't realize that your fingerprints are all over this thing? What do people think the Secretary of State does, for heaven's sake? Negotiate the nation's treaties, among other things. And you were the good soldier, plugging away at this agreement, for years and years before you suddenly didn't like it.
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Hillary, I Don't Believe You Oppose the TPP (Original Post)
antigop
Oct 2015
OP
Shhhhhhhh......Don't Distract Her While She's focusing On Her Focus Groups. nt
left on green only
Oct 2015
#1
You wanna she should do a pinky swear? Maybe all the candidates should do pinky swears to be
Fred Sanders
Oct 2015
#2
So....you would be happier if she was "consistent" in not opposing? That makes no sense!
Fred Sanders
Oct 2015
#11
I don't think she said she opposed it, only that the final version doesn't meet her standards.
JaneyVee
Oct 2015
#3
Nobody believes it. Nobody. It's laughable. This is a PR disaster of epic proportions.
reformist2
Oct 2015
#7
left on green only
(1,484 posts)1. Shhhhhhhh......Don't Distract Her While She's focusing On Her Focus Groups. nt
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)4. They'll interrupt her spontaneity practice. [n/t]
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)2. You wanna she should do a pinky swear? Maybe all the candidates should do pinky swears to be
"trusted".
Some intellectual honesty would be nice....folks who do not trust her or him or them, naturally then they do not believe anything she or he or them says and so that is that.
I get it. We all get it.
The fact that Clinton wanting to know the details of the comprehensive agreement before fully committing to a major trade treaty is what a prohibitive favorite for actually having the power to have their Yea or Nay mean anything is the adult thing to do.
That is what I get.
MoveIt
(399 posts)10. A little consistency is all we ask for
Let me guess you were vehemently pro-ambiguity on the TPP 48 hours ago, right?
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)11. So....you would be happier if she was "consistent" in not opposing? That makes no sense!
And have you got an election calendar handy?
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)3. I don't think she said she opposed it, only that the final version doesn't meet her standards.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)5. Nobody believes it.
I'll bet even her staunch supporters doubt the sincerity in that one.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)6. One would hope.........n/t
reformist2
(9,841 posts)7. Nobody believes it. Nobody. It's laughable. This is a PR disaster of epic proportions.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)8. Not only does she not oppose it but she said so: "With what
I know today" was the qualifier in her statement.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)9. Were her lips moving?
Seems to be a tell.
n/t