"Our message to Hillary Clinton is simple: Immigrant youth do not trust you"

[cui bono]

Hillary Clinton was interrupted by an immigration protester while presenting an award to chef Jose Andres at the annual Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute gala in Washington, D.C. on Thursday.

Holding up a sign that read “Hillary for immigrants in prisons,” Juan Carlos Ramos of the advocacy organization United We Dream Action stood near the stage, yelling at Clinton as she spoke over him. Ramos was protesting Clinton accepting donations from corporations that run private prisons.

Ramos told BuzzFeed News he was chanting “Hillary we’re watching. My deportation will be your funding.”

“Our message to Hillary Clinton is simple: Immigrant youth do not trust you,” Ramos, who was swiftly removed from the event, said in an earlier statement. “It is time to drop the prison money and stand with our community — you can’t have it both ways.”

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http://www.buzzfeed.com/adriancarrasquillo/hillary-clinton-interrupted-by-immigration-protester-over-pr#.stOe8egkB

[GummyBearz]

1. Just say it again

But louder next time. If you convince her that your cause will help her become president she will adopt it over night.

This goes for immigrants as well as big corporations.

[Midnight Writer]

7. Immigrant youth do not vote in significant numbers

Instead of "louder', maybe organize and get out the vote. Once you have a significant and disciplined voting block, she and other politicos will hear you better.

[sabrina 1]

32. They ARE organizing. This election season is shaping up to be a repeat of the 2008 election. But

this time for a different candidate. People lost hope over the past eight years but they also learned some valuable lessons.

One of them being that a candidate must have a record of consistency on major issues. Because they have learned and say so on a regular basis, campaign talk without a record to back it up, means nothing.

Now they have a candidate who talks and has the long record to back it up.

It has been a long learning process.

Today I helped a previously disillusioned, non-voter register as a Dem in NY so she can vote for Bernie Sanders.

Yes, people are organizing, Sanders is giving people a reason to believe they should get involved, again.

[HooptieWagon]

2. Oh, she kicked him out!

Bernie handled the disruptions by BLM much better. It looks like the bitterness and desperation of her failing campaign is bringing out the angry and imperial side of HRH.

[cui bono]

3. That's her standard MO. Remember when she did that to Ray McGovern?

She just kept on talking while a senior citizen - a 27 year veteran of the CIA - was violently ejected for his silent protest.


Ray McGovern dragged out of Hillary Clinton "Freedom Speech":

Peace Activist and Ex-CIA Analyst Ray McGovern Beaten, Arrested for Silent Protest at Clinton Speech:

[m-lekktor]

9. I remember it! nt

[sabrina 1]

33. A great man, I remember that. Didn't he also disrupt Bush the Lesser but managed to have his say

at that rally?

[George II]

16. Absolutely no comparison between the two incidents.

[in_cog_ni_to]

18. BOTH were interrupted by activists. Soooo, yes there is.

In Srattle, One turned over the microphone and let them talk. The other Ignored the activist, didn't turn over the mic, but instead, talked over him had the activist removed from the room.

Yeah, there's a comparison to be made. And a stark one at that.

[George II]

19. Her appearance was an organized event indoors, Sanders' was an ad hoc event outdoors...

....and at Sanders' event he hadn't even begun speaking.

Like I said, no comparison.

[in_cog_ni_to]

20. The Social Security and Medicare event had taken Months to organize. Bernie was on the stage and

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shoved out of the way to get the mic.

Like I said, a STARK contrast and comparison.

[sabrina 1]

35. It wasn't Sanders' event. It was a Social Security advocate event to which Sanders was invited as a

speaker due to his lifelong support of the Democrat Party's support for Social Security.

At least get the facts right when you decide to address a topic. Sanders had his own event to go to that night, which he did, attracting an enormous crowd as he always does. At the other event, which was NOT his, he handed over the mic and the audience was deprived of what they came to hear, someone supporting Democratic Party policies. As we later found out, one of those people he left with the mic, was a former Sarah Palin fan. Later found mocking BLM activist and current Sanders Press secretary, Symone Sanders.

Facts are sometimes inconvenient.

[sabrina 1]

34. Well, yes, you are right there is no comparison. One listened, the other had the activist thrown out

[840high]

4. kick

[Lunabell]

5. No one should ever profit from incarceration

It is obscene.

[FrodosPet]

22. Except for the guards

I know, wages are different than profits. Wages are good, profits are bad.

[LW1977]

6. If Trump is the GOP candidate..

Then that throws this argument out the window..

[cui bono]

8. Why? He would be running against Bernie Sanders.

[BainsBane]

10. There are factual errors in your OP

This is the actual title of the article: "Hillary Clinton Interrupted By Immigration Protester Over Private Prison Donations."

Additionally, it makes the following point:

While her broader poll numbers have slipped, Clinton is the presidential candidate regularly viewed most positively by Latino voters.

I understand facts are annoying, but the actual contributions in question come from five people who work at the lobbying firm Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld, a firm that among its clients includes a single private prison corporation.
https://theintercept.com/2015/07/23/private-prison-lobbyists-raising-cash-hillary-clinton/
Now, one may find that problematic, but it is not at all the same as claiming she takes money from private prison corporations. In addition to being factually false, that statement shows a woeful misunderstanding of campaign finance law, which in fact prohibits politicians from accepting money from corporations of any kind. That point has already been posted on this site a number of times, but of course I realize facts complicate the narrative and truth is the least of concerns.

Now, I presume the glee with which you post the story indicates you think Bernie will be the beneficiary of the anger expressed by Ramos at the event. I don't know why that should be the case, and polls show no evidence of it. Bernie in fact voted for two of the crime bills that began the era of incarceration many here have decided was entirely the responsibility of a woman who was First Lady at the time, whereas a congressman who twice voted for those crime bills is somehow the only person that can save us from a situation he voted to implement. Voting records matter, as much as some may insist any effort to examine them amounts to character assassination. https://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/27110/bernie-sanders/20/crime

Additionally, a couple of months ago Sanders publicly stated that he sees immigration as responsible for unemployment in the US. That was in keeping with his previous statements on the subject:

"I'm very dubious about the need to bring foreign unskilled labor into this country," he said in 2013. "What I do not support is, under the guise of immigrant reform, a process pushed by large corporations which results in more unemployment and lower wages for American workers."

http://www.vox.com/2015/7/28/9014491/bernie-sanders-vox-conversation
That kind of statement is certain to attract the Republican voters some "progressives" are so excited to be allied with, but it alienates immigrants, Hispanic immigrants in particular. It is also at odds with the Democratic Party's position on immigration.

Now, notice that rather than simply shouting "It's been debunked. Take it down!" over and over again, I showed which aspects of the story were false and provided evidence to support my point. Imagine that.

[mhatrw]

11. You are an amazing credit to the Clinton campaign!

Thank God you were awake to set the record straight!

The Clintons have truly prioritized egalitarian reform of the criminal justice system, just as they have been stalwart champions of reforming the the welfare system, the financial system, and international trade agreements!

[Skidmore]

12. Actually, BainsBane would be a credit to any campaign.

I learned information from her post which I didn't know before and I appreciate being informed and not spun or lied to.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. Bain's Bain is a most perspicacious poster.

It give me a that you seemingly demur from that assessment.

That being said I would be remiss in not giving you a and wishing you have a nice weekend.

[George II]

14. Good job....

...in fact, most likely the five people involved in the contributions for the Clinton campaign had nothing to do with any contributions from private prison corporations.

That firm is like a law firm that has several attorneys. They represent clients independent of each other, and other than via conversations over lunch probaby don't know the details or the actual clients of the other attorneys.

[William769]

15. ...

Now, notice that rather than simply shouting "It's been debunked. Take it down!" over and over again, I showed which aspects of the story were false and provided evidence to support my point. Imagine that.

[mcar]

17. Don't confuse people with facts Bains

[DanTex]

21. Great post.

[DURHAM D]

23. Oh Nooozzz

inconvenient facts.

Damn facts.

[cui bono]

25. Oh, NOW you are concerned about facts.

Do you have hours when your personal fact checker is open because you weren't concerned about any facts when posting OPs about Sanders.

Anyway, what I posted did not mention any of the donations or anything, it was about the statement of immigrant youth not trusting Hillary. I really could care less to look into that aspect because I already don't trust her and don't believe what she says. I was just pointing out the feelings expressed by this young activist.

Funny though that there is no uproar about how he was mistreated, I mean he was evicted from there, I'm shocked (!) that Hillary supporters don't care as much about immigrants as they do about BLM.

And the rule for keeping the headline the same is only for LBN.

Now if you don't want to see OPs like this you can stop your smear mongering against Sanders. I never really used to rec anything about Hillary much less post OPs about her but her supporters' nastiness inspired me. I probably won't bother to do it again, unless you really want some Benghazi OPs, then I will consider any more dishonest OPs about Sanders as a plea for that.

[oasis]

28. Bengazi OPs we haven't seen yet. Go ahead, make my day.

[cui bono]

29. That's because Bernie supporters don't post obvious smears.

OTOH... we've had more than our share of "Not Enough, Bernie" OPs from Hillary supporters trying to paint Bernie as a racist, gun nut, traitor, pervert... you name it.

[riversedge]

26. Thank you Bains for the corrections

[questionseverything]

27. ..

Last week, Clinton and other candidates revealed a number of lobbyists who are serving as “bundlers” for their campaigns. Bundlers collect contributions on behalf of a campaign, and are often rewarded with special favors, such as access to the candidate.

Richard Sullivan, of the lobbying firm Capitol Counsel, is a bundler for the Clinton campaign, bringing in $44,859 in contributions in a few short months. Sullivan is also a registered lobbyist for the Geo Group, a company that operates a number of jails, including immigrant detention centers, for profit.

As we reported yesterday, fully five Clinton bundlers work for the lobbying and law firm Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld. Corrections Corporation of America, the largest private prison company in America, paid Akin Gump $240,000 in lobbying fees last year. The firm also serves as a law firm for the prison giant, representing the company in court.

Akin Gump lobbyist and Clinton bundler Brian Popper disclosed that he previously helped CCA defeat efforts to compel private prisons to respond to Freedom of Information Act requests.

[BainsBane]

30. I take it that is from the article I posted

Yet you did not quote it or provide the source. What is your point? Do you actually think that contradicts what I wrote?

[sabrina 1]

36. Hillary is accepting donations from the Private Prison industry, Sanders will not. It really isn't

hard to understand why the victims of this vile industry, how did it ever happen in this democracy that we even have such a shameful for profit industry, are angry at anyone who condones it, by whatever means.

Long posts trying to justify the acceptance of such dirty money won't appease those most affected by the atrocities perpetrated by this vile industry.

Hopefully when we restore the Dem party to the people, retrieving from the current Corporate interests, such industries will go the way of the dinosaur.

And no, bundling isn't an excuse. She needs to return any donations tainted by the Private Prison Industry, period.

[questionseverything]

37. bundlers working for lobbying firms that support private prisons

is more than a lucky coincidence for ole hc at least in my opinion

i am so glad we have a candidate,bernie ,who has always stood against the monstrous evil that the private for profit prison industry is

[sabrina 1]

38. Yes, we are lucky to have someone like Bernie willing to run on our behalf. Otherwise we would be

stuck with corporate funded AND influenced candidates.

[Fawke Em]

13. I'm white, not an immigrant and nearing middle age.

And I don't trust her, either.

[jfern]

31. Bernie really spoke to immigrants today in Tuscon