2016 Postmortem
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My answer then was the same as it is today: I wont let the perfect be the enemy of the exceptional.
No one ever, anywhere agrees with every single thing a politician stands for or does. For that matter, no one ever, anywhere agrees with every single thing any person stands for or does.
We make judgments about people based on complex criteria and always with imperfect information. We balance the good with the not so good. We condemn and we forgive, we attack and we praise, we try to distinguish the forest from the trees. We can never truly know another persons thoughts, so we attempt to divine the persons core by interpreting their words and deeds, which can often be contradictory. That is the case with family, with friends, with colleagues, and no less with public figures.
Its a process that describes my journey from Iraq war protester and progressive activist to Hillary adviser and staunch Hillary advocate.
http://www.hillarymen.com/latest/hillary-goes-progressive?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=socialnetwork
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)are learning about him and who know he is speaking the truth. Then they look at his record, and they know he has that rare quality in a politician, he is CONSISTENT.
It's quite remarkable actually to see her coming out for Bernie's positions at this point. That's quite an acknowledgement of how right HE has been all along.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Being against all free trade, which is Sanders position.
zalinda
(5,621 posts)He is against free trade that hurts American workers. That is a big difference, and a big distinction between the two candidates.
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Fearless
(18,421 posts)NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)her *wink*wink*.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)All of us know we are flawed in some way.
I was sent to the Vietnam war. I was a part of that atrocity. I live with that everyday of my life. But I go on and do the best I can and learn from the past.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)If I have to vote for her I'll hope for the best but I flat-out don't believe her.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)cloudbase
(5,513 posts)All presidential candidates face a core problem. To win their partys nomination in an age of growing polarization they have to adopt base-pleasing, pseudo-extreme policy positions. But to win a general election and actually govern they have to adopt semi-centrist majority positions.
How can one person do both?
Nobody had figured this out until, brilliantly, Hillary Clinton. She is campaigning on a series of positions that she transparently does not believe in. Shell say what she needs to say now to become Bernie Sanders in a pantsuit (wait, Bernie Sanders already wears a pantsuit!). Then, nomination in hand and White House won, she will, it appears, transparently flip back and embrace whatever other positions she doesnt believe in that will help her succeed in her new role.
More at:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/09/opinion/hillary-clintons-opportunist-solution.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=opinion-c-col-right-region®ion=opinion-c-col-right-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-right-region
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)talking point that came straight out of the Third Way think tank. 'I won't let the perfect be the enemy of the good'. Lol, we used to dissect all their talking points piece by piece.
I wondered what happened to him and all the other 'would be' pundits who were vying for all that money floating around and promotions of their 'work'.
Principles don't matter much in the inner circles of the DC bubble but they do matter to the public.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Autumn
(45,056 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)This is the moment of consciousness. She's stepped through the portal.
But why does the image of this keep coming into my mind?
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)I am sorry, but her changes aren't credible nor plausible.
This is just debate strategy. She wants to knock the TPP and the pipeline off the table as topics during the debate. She wants this to be about fluff and maintain her "inevitable" sheen. There is nothing real about her "changes" and both of her statements on both matters have holes in them big enough to build an 1,100 mile pipeline through.
It isn't working and no one here is buying this.