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99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 12:44 PM Oct 2015

Poll: Clinton drops 10 points in 5 days

Poll: Clinton drops 10 points in 5 days
By Bradford Richardson * October 10, 2015 * The Hill

Hillary Clinton is dragging her feet into the first Democratic primary debate on Tuesday, dropping 10 points in less than a week, according to a new Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Friday.

While Clinton enjoyed 51 percent support among Democratic voters in the poll’s Oct. 4 iteration, that number dipped to 41 percent support on Oct. 9.

Both Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Vice President Biden, who has yet to announce whether he will run for president, gained supporters from Clinton’s loss.

Sanders’ support increased from 24 to 28 percent over the same time frame, and Biden jumped from 16 to 20 percent support.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/256586-poll-clinton-drops-10-points-in-5-days
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Poll: Clinton drops 10 points in 5 days (Original Post) 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 OP
Did the first thread on this debunked "survey" with it's "credibility interval" not go well? Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #1
Reuters/Ipsos poll conducted Oct. 9 .. includes 624 respondents. The margin of error is 4.5 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #2
Is "margin of error" what The Hill is calling it in their article about this Reuters survey? Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #3
Sorry, I still don't know what you mean by "this debunked 'survey'" 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #4
a debunked survey/poll is one hillary loses. Hugs, 99th Monkey roguevalley Oct 2015 #7
Ahh, I should have known by now. 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #8
Lol, yes, that is exactly what 'debunked poll' means. They rush into every thread with a poll sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #21
I don't think "debunked" means what they think it means. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #23
"is one hillary loses" NCTraveler Oct 2015 #24
Debunked? ColesCountyDem Oct 2015 #6
the survey is not "debunked" magical thyme Oct 2015 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #34
False. Fearless Oct 2015 #13
You keep saying this was debunked ... Trajan Oct 2015 #29
I think because of Clinton's newest flip-flop/triangulation on Keystone and TPP Time_Lord Oct 2015 #5
K&R magical thyme Oct 2015 #9
Didn't we discredit this on-line poll yesterday? BooScout Oct 2015 #11
Two times the charm? Some got pretty beat up on that thread defending non-science! Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #12
Complete bull. Fearless Oct 2015 #14
... BooScout Oct 2015 #15
Do you have something to say? Fearless Oct 2015 #16
Just sayin hello... BooScout Oct 2015 #17
The emoticon also works for goodbye Fearless Oct 2015 #18
... BooScout Oct 2015 #19
Thanks! I only found this thread because you kept kicking it! jeff47 Oct 2015 #27
Don't thank me.... BooScout Oct 2015 #30
Still had the old window open. jeff47 Oct 2015 #32
No, you didn't. Isn't it time to accept the fact that in every poll, Hillary has been trending down sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #22
New PPP poll in Pennsylvania was just released Treppo Oct 2015 #28
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #20
People are not fooled by those who suddenly change their positions right before debates. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #25
Here is the same updated Reuters weekly unscientific "survey"/entertainment: Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #33
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #26
An online poll with Biden in the race. NuclearDem Oct 2015 #31
 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
2. Reuters/Ipsos poll conducted Oct. 9 .. includes 624 respondents. The margin of error is 4.5
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 12:53 PM
Oct 2015

Don't know what you're talking about, since you provide no link to illumine your rhetorical question.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
4. Sorry, I still don't know what you mean by "this debunked 'survey'"
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 01:26 PM
Oct 2015

Last edited Sat Oct 10, 2015, 07:30 PM - Edit history (1)

the Reuters link didn't debunk anything, as it appears to be the primary source
article for Reuters own survey, that was reported in The Hill.

So I'm still in the dark about what point you are trying to make Mr. Sanders.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
21. Lol, yes, that is exactly what 'debunked poll' means. They rush into every thread with a poll
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 12:08 AM
Oct 2015

that isn't favorable to Hillary to say how 'unscientific' it is, yet they accept polls with people who are NOT running in this race, as 'scientific', but only if they favor Hillary.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
10. the survey is not "debunked"
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 07:49 AM
Oct 2015

just because "credibility interval" and bayesian statistics are not the same as "moe" and classical statistics doesn't mean the survey is "debunked."

Hill's numbers continue to drop, regardless of credibility interval or moe. Within each individual survey, her numbers drop. WIthin the 2 statistical models, her numbers drop.

Unless and until there is a sustained reversal in the trend that has persisted for many months now, her trend is downward under each statistical model.

Response to magical thyme (Reply #10)

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
29. You keep saying this was debunked ...
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 02:32 PM
Oct 2015

You said that last time too ...

Yet, apparently, it has not been debunked ...

There is bunk, alright, but it's not the poll ...

You are so gone, Mr. Fibber ....

No return ...

 

Time_Lord

(60 posts)
5. I think because of Clinton's newest flip-flop/triangulation on Keystone and TPP
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 01:31 PM
Oct 2015

The numbers will drop even further.

It will drop further when she does a very bad imitation of Bernie Sanders in the debates.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
22. No, you didn't. Isn't it time to accept the fact that in every poll, Hillary has been trending down
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 12:12 AM
Oct 2015

for months now? Debunk that if you can.

Sanders is trending up directly related to increasing Name Recognition. Hillary trends down for the same reason, HIS increasing name recognition. People now have a choice, period.

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