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jfern

(5,204 posts)
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 04:40 AM Oct 2015

DNC vice chair disinvited from debate for wanting more debates

Representative Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii, a vice chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, said she was disinvited from the first Democratic presidential primary debate in Nevada after she appeared on television and called for more face-offs.

Ms. Gabbard confirmed on Sunday that her chief of staff received a message last Tuesday from the chief of staff to Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the chairwoman of the national committee, about her attendance at the debate. A day earlier, Ms. Gabbard had appeared on MSNBC and said there should be an increase beyond the current six sanctioned debates.


http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/10/12/d-n-c-officer-says-she-was-disinvited-from-debate-after-calling-for-more-of-them/?_r=0

Tulsi Gabbard is actually on the conservative side of the party, but I guess that doesn't stop her from being near the top of Hillary's enemies list.
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DNC vice chair disinvited from debate for wanting more debates (Original Post) jfern Oct 2015 OP
The Democratic Party really, really needs to say goodbye to Debbie Wasserman Schultz PatrickforO Oct 2015 #1
I agree Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #2
The Democratic Party Needs To Say Goodbye To DWS And HRC cantbeserious Oct 2015 #4
Get rid of the candidate that the plurality of Democrats want? brooklynite Oct 2015 #5
When We Stand Together - No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Oct 2015 #6
I thought they wanted Obama in the last election, and we don't know what they want sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #24
"say goodbye to Debbie Wasserman Schultz" left-of-center2012 Oct 2015 #13
I know just how to do it. A roadmap. Chan790 Oct 2015 #15
Undemocratic. Totally. mylye2222 Oct 2015 #3
IT's a good thing that Bernie will have a people powered campaign hootinholler Oct 2015 #7
yup restorefreedom Oct 2015 #12
How low can Debbie go? Apparently she has no depth limits. Divernan Oct 2015 #8
If true, this is a nail in the heart. delrem Oct 2015 #9
Mean bee rules Wanna bees, HereSince1628 Oct 2015 #10
well that pretty much sums it up restorefreedom Oct 2015 #11
The general disdain for the common voter artislife Oct 2015 #14
Hardly surprising for a DNC chair that has endorsed Republicans in her home state... Chan790 Oct 2015 #16
Crap! artislife Oct 2015 #17
She's a willing participant in FL politics being an insider's club. Chan790 Oct 2015 #18
Sanders campaign: DNC vice chair can sit with us at debate Capt. Obvious Oct 2015 #19
Kudos to Bernie Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #20
+1 Go Vols Oct 2015 #25
We're doing this to ourselves. No one's fault but our own LettuceSea Oct 2015 #21
'it kind of reminds me of how high school teenagers act. . . elleng Oct 2015 #22
Democracy in action whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #23
they've openly thrown Senate races and opposed their own candidate in CT MisterP Oct 2015 #26

PatrickforO

(14,559 posts)
1. The Democratic Party really, really needs to say goodbye to Debbie Wasserman Schultz
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 04:43 AM
Oct 2015

and good riddance!

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
6. When We Stand Together - No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 06:14 AM
Oct 2015

eom

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
24. I thought they wanted Obama in the last election, and we don't know what they want
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 01:06 PM
Oct 2015

yet this time. Though her numbers have dropped significantly since the voters were given other options. Not to mention you can't win a GE with just 40% of 32% of the electorate.

Bernie wins all polls of Independents eg, now the largest voting bloc in the country as voters leave both parties, due to this kind of thing, the games the parties play.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
13. "say goodbye to Debbie Wasserman Schultz"
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 08:41 AM
Oct 2015

I'm guessing if HC is elected,
DWS will be appointed to a cabinet post
to reward her for her loyalty to HC during the primaries.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
15. I know just how to do it. A roadmap.
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 08:46 AM
Oct 2015

Join your local Democratic Town Committee or regional party-organizing body. (Some places are citywide, some county-wide or state-region-wide; some large cities have several representing different parts of the city)

When you vote for representation to your state Democratic committee, vote for someone who will hold to the position in electing representation to the DNC that DWS must not be elected to another term as DNC chair. Advocate that position and criteria for your support to your fellow Democratic committee-members.

Not only is that how to get rid of DWS, it's how to effect change on the party platform and change the direction of the party.

I don't think it should be that hard to can Downer Debbie...I have a hard time believing that anybody supporting any candidate or from any state or of any Democratic constituency thinks she shouldn't lose her job. She's done a terrible job that has cost us seats in Congress and made it harder to get elected to high public office as a Democrat. She's an awful spokesperson for the party.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
7. IT's a good thing that Bernie will have a people powered campaign
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 06:39 AM
Oct 2015

Because when he wins the primary we can expect zero support from the party. Is that why people cling to the unelectable trope?

Essentially he will have to run as a 3rd party candidate would run.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
12. yup
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 08:33 AM
Oct 2015

i was reamed for saying this a while back (although many agreed with me), but dws and the establishment would rather lose the wh if bernie is the nom. they will appear to help and say all the right things, but they will actually be helping the repub candidate.

i saw someone in another thread basically say if bernie is the nom, the party is prepared to cede the presidency and focus on congress.

he and we will be on our own.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
8. How low can Debbie go? Apparently she has no depth limits.
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 06:59 AM
Oct 2015

(Reposted from my comment on another thread on this topic)

It's like peering into the abyss. As a scuba diver, I've gone wreck-diving off of the shore of New Providence Island in the Bahamas. There's a natural phenomena called Tongue of the Ocean.
Tongue-Of-The-Ocean (the abyss)
One of the most dramatic features on New Providence Island is the Tongue-Of-The-Ocean which is a deep oceanic trench that is 120 miles long, and 24 miles wide, with depths reaching 6,000 feet.
The Tongue spans the gap between New Providence and Andros Island and comes to with-in a half a mile of shore on the southwest side of New Providence. Imagine the Grand Canyon, filled with water, and within a 1/2 mile of a pristine beach.

We dove down to about 120 feet in depth, from which there is a dramatic drop off into the abyss. The farther from surface light, the darker the waters and the less visibility and color disappears. Looking down into the abyss is a damned chilling experience - just like looking at what Debbie Wasserman Schultz is doing to the Democratic Party.


Ms. Gabbard said the only issue raised had been “the fact that I had publicly disagreed” with Ms. Wasserman Schultz.

“This isn’t about any one person,” Ms. Gabbard said. “It’s about how the Democratic Party should be representing democratic values, allowing for free speech and open debate within our party, and for more transparency and debates for our presidential candidates.”


“All of our candidates agree with my position,” she added.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
11. well that pretty much sums it up
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 08:28 AM
Oct 2015

dws needs to go

when bernie wins, if it is accompanied by sweeps in congress, everyone will know it will have been in spite of dws pathetic efforts to squash democracy and suppress progressive voices and she will have to go.

if bernie loses the nom and hillary becomes the nom, there will be a massive loss of the wh and possibly blistering losses in congress as well. there will be immediate calls for her removal, but of course it will be too late, we will have lost the government.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
16. Hardly surprising for a DNC chair that has endorsed Republicans in her home state...
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 08:50 AM
Oct 2015

over members of her own party in the past.

She has also, in the past, gone out of her way to insure that the "wrong kinds of Democrats" don't get elected in South Florida, especially when running against members of the GOP she considers her friends.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
18. She's a willing participant in FL politics being an insider's club.
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 09:13 AM
Oct 2015

It's often not D vs. R as much as establishment R & D working to self-preserve by eliminating options for change. She's a beneficiary of that too...FL GOP make sure she's in a "safe" district...and she does the same for friendly South FL GOPers like the Diaz-Balart brothers. There's an insider's club and we're not in it...and neither are her enemies in the FL Democratic Party. IIRC, she went to some fairly-great lengths to get rid of Alan Grayson from his Congressional seat because he wasn't one of her sycophants.

That's to say nothing of her voting record in Congress that is very much "pragmatic pro-business Democrat." It's party-line...if the DLC is the party and we're all just annoyances that prevent the most-effective implementation of the DLC agenda.

elleng

(130,767 posts)
22. 'it kind of reminds me of how high school teenagers act. . .
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 12:15 PM
Oct 2015

Representative Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii, a vice chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, said she was disinvited from the first Democratic presidential primary debate in Nevada after she appeared on television and called for more face-offs.

Ms. Gabbard confirmed on Sunday that her chief of staff received a message last Tuesday from the chief of staff to Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the chairwoman of the national committee, about her attendance at the debate. A day earlier, Ms. Gabbard had appeared on MSNBC and said there should be an increase beyond the current six sanctioned debates.

A person close to the committee who asked for anonymity to discuss internal discussions insisted, however, that Ms. Gabbard had not been disinvited. Instead, the person said, an aide to Ms. Wasserman Schultz expressed a desire to keep the focus on the candidates as the debate approached, rather than on a “distraction” that could divide the party, and suggested that if Ms. Gabbard could not do that, she should reconsider going.

Ms. Gabbard insisted otherwise.

“When I first came to Washington, one of the things that I was disappointed about was there’s a lot of immaturity and petty gamesmanship that goes on, and it kind of reminds me of how high school teenagers act,” Ms. Gabbard said in a telephone interview on Sunday night. She said she would watch the debate in her district in Hawaii, which elected her to her second term last year.

“It’s very dangerous when we have people in positions of leadership who use their power to try to quiet those who disagree with them,” she added. “When I signed up to be vice chair of the D.N.C., no one told me I would be relinquishing my freedom of speech and checking it at the door.”'

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
26. they've openly thrown Senate races and opposed their own candidate in CT
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 01:38 PM
Oct 2015

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this is NOTHING

but the more they brazenly manipulate the process while screaming ever-louder about "progressive purity purges" the more Dems and indeps realize that we NEED Sanders or there's gonna be a riot in the bones of the old party

the party's showing that it's moribund: it's like the PRI or Venezuela's Perez, offering nothing but access to power and big donors: at least Boss Tweed built a lot of things instead of burning the city down for the insurance money

http://www.salon.com/2015/03/27/wall_streets_political_shakedown_well_stop_funding_dems_if_elizabeth_warren_wont_sit_down_and_shut_up/

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