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bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 02:57 PM Oct 2015

What Bernie should do during the debate...

Bernie needs to state exactly the dates that Hillary changed her mind on TPP, Wall Street and the like. If the dates for the change are noted it will look very obvious to viewers that she changed her mind because she wanted to try to quash the real consistency (decades) of Bernie's agenda.

Him mentioning on Meet the Press that he was consistent wasn't enough. He needs to let viewers who are too busy to realize what she has done (flip flopped to make people think it was her idea to begin with) to influence viewers. Many are not paying attention until the debate to what has been going on. It needs to come out during the debate that she purposely changed her stance to coincide with Bernie's to benefit herself. "I'm a Moderate" really?

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What Bernie should do during the debate... (Original Post) bkkyosemite Oct 2015 OP
Unlikely jberryhill Oct 2015 #1
!!!!!! zappaman Oct 2015 #6
It is a good gambit RobertEarl Oct 2015 #7
It's childish bullshit jberryhill Oct 2015 #12
You got it wrong RobertEarl Oct 2015 #15
K&R mcar Oct 2015 #13
And Clinton can state the dates Sanders voted for legisilation that supported the Minutemen movement uponit7771 Oct 2015 #2
There's one, name another? pinebox Oct 2015 #3
Well he says he's against the death penalty, but... JaneyVee Oct 2015 #8
wow... Sanders is sounding more like a Libertarian to me than a progressive. uponit7771 Oct 2015 #9
I don't think she should get into other peoples history in relation to guns. edit for post #72 Snotcicles Oct 2015 #10
...except that Bernie has said he won't run a negative campaign brooklynite Oct 2015 #4
Be himself pinebox Oct 2015 #5
This is his chance to inspire a far larger audience than Hortensis Oct 2015 #11
Let's hope for your sake Bernie doesn't take your workinclasszero Oct 2015 #14
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
1. Unlikely
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 03:04 PM
Oct 2015

It is unlikely that Sen. Sanders will spend valuable time engaging in asinine childish inconsequential shit of the type that passes at DU for "political argument", as opposed to responding substantively to the debate questions.
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
7. It is a good gambit
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 03:30 PM
Oct 2015

Welcoming the evolution of Hillary as she comes from the dark side over to where Bernie and his supporters stand on the main issues of the day, would be a nice gambit and point out that where Hillary once stood, has been flooded out by reason and kindness and good will towards all except the 1% that back Hillary to the hilt.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
12. It's childish bullshit
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 03:47 PM
Oct 2015

I have never not once in my life been persuaded to vote for anyone based on their criticism of another candidate.

It's feel-good shit for people that already support the candidate making the criticism, and tedious poo-flinging for anyone who wants to know what their positions are.
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
15. You got it wrong
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 09:46 PM
Oct 2015

It is congratulations that Hillary has seen the light and is moving toward the light. Your negative take belies the Bernie approach.

As for the M$M practice of negativity.... it has been proven to work magic on many of the sheeple.

mcar

(42,287 posts)
13. K&R
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 03:49 PM
Oct 2015

I hope for a mature debate with the intelligence our candidates are known for. Not silly "I was there first" type nonsense.

uponit7771

(90,323 posts)
2. And Clinton can state the dates Sanders voted for legisilation that supported the Minutemen movement
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 03:04 PM
Oct 2015

... and Sanders votes against the Brady Bill

Sanders can throw no stones.... no matter what people think... NONE of the candidates can throw a stone

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
3. There's one, name another?
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 03:07 PM
Oct 2015

Because there aren't very many compared to Hillary who changes her position faster than an updraft into a thunderstorm.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
8. Well he says he's against the death penalty, but...
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 03:34 PM
Oct 2015

He voted to expand federal death penalty and incarcerations, plus for the gun industry.

brooklynite

(94,452 posts)
4. ...except that Bernie has said he won't run a negative campaign
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 03:07 PM
Oct 2015

I think some of his supporters are going to be upset that he isn't as anti-Hillary as they are.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
5. Be himself
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 03:09 PM
Oct 2015

That's all Bernie has to do, just be himself. He shoots straight and is a man of conviction and that's why he is surging so much, people understand he's unwavering in his beliefs and comes across as both trustworthy and honest, unlike Hillary. You'll hear the talking points out of him and he'll draw a very clear cut line between him and Hillary. Personally, I think it will be O'Malley who will really hit Hillary hard on her changing positions which only serves to reinforce Sanders positioning.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. This is his chance to inspire a far larger audience than
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 03:46 PM
Oct 2015

he has ever had. You don't do that by pick, pick, picking at others. Any attacks will be to full sword depth, and he'll go back to what SHOULD be done.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
14. Let's hope for your sake Bernie doesn't take your
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 03:52 PM
Oct 2015

Advice and be the little attack poodle nipping at her heels.

I don't think it would go over good on TV.

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