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babylonsister

(171,048 posts)
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 10:49 AM Aug 2012

"You've got to be kidding me."

Posted with permission.

http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/08/10/13218427-the-standards-for-embarrassment?lite

The standards for 'embarrassment'
By Steve Benen
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Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:41 AM EDT



You've got to be kidding me.


Mitt Romney said Thursday that President Obama and his allies should be embarrassed over a controversial ad from a super-PAC supporting the president that links the death of a cancer patient to the GOP contender's tenure at Bain Capital.

"You know, in the past, when people pointed out that something was inaccurate, why, campaigns pulled the ad," Romney said on Bill Bennett's radio show. "They were embarrassed. Today, they just blast ahead. You know, the various fact-checkers look at some of these charges in the Obama ads and they say that they're wrong, and inaccurate, and yet he just keeps on running them."


Look, I know the Priorities USA Action spot is provocative. The spot, which hasn't actually aired anywhere, is borderline on the fairness scale (even if the ad's detractors haven't pointed to specific inaccuracies). I get it.

But the ad was released the same day as Romney's welfare smear, which was as dishonest a national ad you'll see in this campaign cycle or any other. Paul Waldman wrote this week, "I've been paying very, very close attention to political ads for a long time. In my former career as an academic I did a lot of research on political ads. I've watched literally every single presidential general election campaign ad ever aired since the first ones in 1952.... But I cannot recall a single presidential campaign ad in the history of American politics that lied more blatantly than this one."

Romney wants to talk about politicians who'd get "embarrassed" when "people pointed out that something was inaccurate"? He wants to talk about "the various fact-checkers"? As Greg Sargent noted, "{I}t remains puzzling that Romney would go here. After all, fact checkers have called out his ads as wrong, inaccurate, misleading or false again and again and again and again and again and again and again. If Romney pulled any of those ads, I'm not aware of it."

Ultimately, I'm having a hard time understanding how Romney's brain works. When he gets caught lying, he brazenly repeats the lie. When he runs dishonest ads, and gets called out by fact-checkers, he keeps airing them. And yet, Romney then whines in Republican media about his amazement that Democrats aren't "embarrassed" by "inaccurate" claims.

I want to understand the mindset that makes such cognitive dissonance possible, but I'm coming up empty.

Consider another example from yesterday.

"I am seeing some of the ads out there. I don't know whatever happened to a campaign of hope and change. I thought he was a new kind of politician. But instead, his campaign and the people working with him have focused almost exclusively on personal attacks."


Right. Mitt Romney has spent the last several months arguing that President Obama is a corrupt liar, who hates free enterprise and religion, and who's driven by an ideology that's "foreign to the American experience." One of Romney's chief surrogates has said the president should "learn how to be an American," and "has no idea how the American system functions," in part because "he spent his early years in Hawaii smoking something."

But Obama, we're told who is "focused almost exclusively on personal attacks," despite the inconvenient reality that the president is yet to attack Romney personally in any way.

I'm not sure which thought it more disconcerting: the notion that Romney believes what he's saying (in which case he's burdened by deeply strange delusions) or he doesn't (in which case he's a profound cynic who perceives Americans are uninformed fools).

Either way, I'm left with the same question: if the president were as awful as Romney says he is, shouldn't the Republican candidate be able to stick to the facts?
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"You've got to be kidding me." (Original Post) babylonsister Aug 2012 OP
The mindset is TlalocW Aug 2012 #1
If nothing else Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2012 #2
Personal Story Alert! 33Greeper Aug 2012 #3
"he's a profound cynic who perceives Americans are uninformed fools"... DING DING DING! Marsala Aug 2012 #4
Another reason for the dissonance on the right marked50 Aug 2012 #5

TlalocW

(15,378 posts)
1. The mindset is
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 11:00 AM
Aug 2012

1. He's a rich asshole who never had anyone stand up to him so he's never face any real consequences for his actions.
2. He's a high-order member of a cult that encourages lying for the Lord and brooks no backtalk from lower members, especially females.

Are numbers 1 and 2 enough to create some sort of psychopathic lie machine who can contradict himself in the same paragraph and not have it register as a problem or see how others might look at it as a problem? Maybe.

TlalocW

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,400 posts)
2. If nothing else
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 11:23 AM
Aug 2012

as Romney's spokesperson helpfully pointed out the ad explains to us why "Romneycare" NEEDS to be national.

33Greeper

(188 posts)
3. Personal Story Alert!
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 11:36 AM
Aug 2012

When I was a 7 year old 2nd grader in a Catholic school, I was the smallest kid and unfortunately the largest kid was a bully. When I was tired of his constant abuse on the playground, I reluctantly confided with my father. He said I needed an "equalizer". A baseball bat to the back of the knees did the trick and he was nice to me from then on. The look of bewilderment on his face that day now reminds me of how the GOP bullies are reacting right now.

Marsala

(2,090 posts)
4. "he's a profound cynic who perceives Americans are uninformed fools"... DING DING DING!
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 11:41 AM
Aug 2012

Romney is running a post-truth candidacy. All of his recent attacks are taken from the right-wing outrage machine. He doesn't care a bit about honesty and believes that he can get away with it because the media does a terrible job calling out lies.

Romney won't lose because he lies all the time, he'll lose because he's so bad at it.

marked50

(1,366 posts)
5. Another reason for the dissonance on the right
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 06:04 PM
Aug 2012

Quite simply, these rightwinger crazies had it in their mind that "liberals" won't fight back. They believed in their core that if you attacked a liberal or Democrat- they would cower and slink away- afraid to stand up to their bullying. Obama has now changed that dynamic and they really don't know what to do. They have no back-up plan. Goes with their inability to adapt to a changing world all around.

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