Post-Debate Poll Finds Bernie Closer To Hillary Than Ever Before

[Report1212]

What's interesting is it both finds most people thought Hillary did the best in the debate, but also that more than ever before support Bernie. Like maybe the ability to duck and dodge and make rhetorical flourishes which is sadly what political debate is in this country is not the only thing voters value


http://www.oann.com/dncdebate/

[aidbo]

1. That _is_ interesting.

[MannyGoldstein]

2. OK! Now I LIKE this poll nt

[TDale313]

3. Interesting, not surprising.

The question I suppose would be what the people being asked considered winning the debate. But I can certainly see people thinking she looked more polished and landed more hits but that they found Sanders message more appealing and felt he reached whatever their threshold is for being presidential.

[moobu2]

4. This is from a very right wing conservative outfit with Tea Party

and Moonie Times connections

[virtualobserver]

6. Well then that explains why Stephen Leser posted this poll earlier today

[moobu2]

7. Ever hear the term "grasping at straws"?

That's what this is.

[virtualobserver]

8. Team Hillary is grasping at thin air

[RichVRichV]

9. Can't believe I'm using this phrase twice in one day.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.


If Hillary supporters can post it as factual scientific evidence that Hillary won the debate then Bernie supporters can post it as factual scientific evidence that Bernie is closing the gap. It's either valid for both or it's valid for neither.


I really don't care either way.

[HerbChestnut]

30. +1

[sabrina 1]

10. Yes, that is exactly what I was thinking when I saw your saw your first comment. And here I thought

these polls were 'scientific' while ALL the People Polls that overwhelmingly found Bernie to be the winner were 'unscientific'. I just can't keep with which poll is acceptable and which is not.

So I'm leaning towards 'if it's favorable to Hillary it's scientific'.

[Art_from_Ark]

15. It can be quite a chore keeping everything straight

Thanks for the pointer

[moobu2]

5. dailykos posted a diary about this Right Wing media outfit last year

Here's a snipit of it
"As previously diaried, the insertion of right-wing media into the regular menu of programming choice is a regular feature of the otherwise coded conservatism of MSM. This television channel attempting global outreach via satellite distribution and cable, One America News, continues on a much wider platform as the infrastructure of co-mingled religious and tithed secular capital inserts itself into another ideological realm less obvious than the eponymous CBN. One person's Halliburton is another's Tongil, and challenging Fox News will be more about a duopoly than competition. Hegemony in the media is never about accountability or credibility and totalizing discourse can always use more audiences-as-networked-commodities, although oddly, some of The Colbert Report seems to have rubbed off on OAN's production design. One America, One World Order - who said world domination was easy with a 500-channel Smörgåsbord where there will be nanobots in your sushi!"

Here's a link to it.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/05/26/1302079/-KILLYOURTELEVISION-OneAmericaNews-Mystification-goes-all-CNN

[aidbo]

16. Please let The folks in this thread know about that.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251682065

[zentrum]

11. This is why DWS

….and HRC won't allow more debates. They know that when people see Bernie, they like him.

[ecstatic]

14. I don't know about that. Visually speaking, HRC looked like a star

compared to the others. O'Malley didn't look into the cameras in the clips I saw, so he didn't connect. Webb was stiff and tone deaf. Chafee looked odd and the voting answer killed his campaign. Bernie said the right things, but looked like McCain as far as body/hand movement, etc. Nice guys, but the only person who came close to Obama's star power was Hillary. That's why everyone is saying she won the debate. We live in a superficial society and, with the exception of O'Malley, those guys did not look presidential at all.

[stillwaiting]

19. We live in a society where the corporate media PUSHES a superficial perspective on to society.

Corporate interests ACTIVELY try and create a superficial society and they have succeeded wildly over the past few decades. It makes controlling society so much easier. Society becomes knee-jerk reflexive in how they respond.

BUT, things might be changing for a substantial portion of Democratic voters. Is it enough for Bernie to win? I don't know, but I hope it is.

Choosing a nominee based on how "presidential" they appear is ridiculous. There are many other things that should be considered. A candidate's past actions, words, and associations primary among them. Does it match with what the candidate is selling in their sales pitch in the debates? If not, and they are highly unbelievable then that "presidential" appearance is nothing more than a highly polished sales person with very little credibility.

[StevieM]

12. This poll only covers those who watched the debate. If you believe it is fully representative then

that means that Webb is at 12%, Chafee is at 8% and O'Malley is at 5%. That is unlikely to be the case.

Also, the poll said that 36% of respondents had post-graduate education. I don't believe that is a representative sampling of who will be voting in the primaries and caucuses.

There should be post-debate polls, both national and from Iowa and New Hampshire, coming out in the next couple of days. That should give us a better idea of where the race currently stands.

Still, it is surprising that Webb and Chafee are ahead of O'Malley, especially given that the same poll showed that he clearly did better than them in the debate. My tentative theory is that they are niche candidates. Chafee is the guy who is the most anti-Clinton and Webb is the most conservative candidate. So they soak up those voters, at least in the immediate aftermath of the debate.

[ecstatic]

13. We'll see. Bernie can't win without minorities and women.

That's the bottom line. If there's not a mass shift towards him within the next week or so, then it's probably a lost cause.

[iamthe99]

25. Depends

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/bernie-sanders-surprise-republicans-support-me

People are pissed off at the establishment . Many of those people have voted republican in the past but
Senator Sanders is striking a cord with these working class republicans .


It's something Hillary can't and will never be able to connect with. No matter how hard she tries to play off
"I'm one of you people"

She is looked at as the elite class of people. There will be many Republicans that vote for Senator Sanders.

[BeyondGeography]

17. He's just one ACME rocket launch away from the lead

[reformist2]

18. All I have to say is, what strange poll results!

[DCBob]

20. That is a poll of debate watchers.. not representative.

There will be polling come out in the nextfew days that will confirm a significant bump up for Hillary... imo.

[Report1212]

24. That was before 15 million Americans watched him in a debate

There is no doubt that the less known candidates get the most from a debate. Also this poll was only of people who watched the debate.

[JaneyVee]

23. 62-30 is what the polls will look like very soon.

Especially without Biden.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

26. Wow! She's "crushing" Bernie by a whopping 8 points!

[Fearless]

28. So people we can't have it both ways.

Either Hillary won the debate or Bernie is much closer to her than he was just a week ago.

Either way someone's not happy.

[Dem2]

29. Either/or thinking isn't the only way

I'm very happy.

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