Chris Matthews used these images to show why Bernie won the debate & how the media is biased

[kpete]

https://twitter.com/YL_Ninja/status/654643146379296768

[Dustlawyer]

1. Did he slip this in there to later claim he was fair?

He has been one of Hillary's biggest fans, minimizing Bernie at every opportunity!

[thesquanderer]

2. CM thought Bernie won

He says it right at the start of this clip

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[Aldo Leopold]

36. Bernie was GREAT in that interview.

Thanks for posting!

[Dustlawyer]

46. Glad I was wrong! CM had been marginalizing Bernie at every opportunity just prior to

the debate. I like how Bernie threw it back at him and made him admit that they labeled him "the fringe" candidate!

[Brainstormy]

63. I still can't stand Matthews. n/t

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

39. Like most establishment types, Tweety is in the tank for Hillary...

...so he has to pretend like he's not... too funny!

Too bad Bernie's not playin along and refuses to take a dive.

Go Bernie Go!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[oasis]

5. Tweety's Clintonhate resurfaces..

He's been tough on both Clintons for years.

[leftofcool]

26. And that is because Bill wouldn't hire him.

CM didn't get the job as Bill's speech writer and has held a grudge ever since.

[daleanime]

9. So you're saying....

his Hillary Hate overcome his Socialist Scare?

[Ed Suspicious]

14. He is a deeply conflicted man.

I just did a double take on this story.

[sabrina 1]

19. He hates Bernie too. So I guess he had to choose between 'the Socialist' and Hillary.

In the end, he did what everyone else has done, he looked at the fact that ALL media polls, focus groups, statistics taken, including Donations to Bernie from nearly 38,000 viewers, show that Bernie was the clear winner by a large majority.

[AlbertCat]

37. Now back to Matthews' analysis of media bias.

So he made up and photoshopped all those charts? He is creative!

[AlbertCat]

45. Since when is winning a debate "scientific"?

Super accurate or not, they clearly show, even if Clinton won (whatever that means) it certainly was no "slam dunk". They show Sanders is not some fringe outlier with totally nutty ideas... as he has been portrayed.

[ChiciB1]

4. WELL of ALL The People In MSM, This Is Quite

UNEXPECTED! Never thought HE would be the one!

Thank you "Tweety!" Almost, was going to watch MSNBC for the first time in a very, very LOOOOOOONG time. So tuned in to Lawrence O'Donnell... THAT was huge mistake! What a piece of crap he was spewing! OFF went the TV! I didn't watch long so don't know if it got any better, but the fawning all over Hillary disgusted me! Eugene Robinson was a HUGE downer too! Of course there's a very long list of shills I thought "might" be fair that have shown their colors in very bright NEGATIVE colors!

If I had the time I would send them all a letter giving them a piece of my mind. And it would be hard to be nice in ANY way! Then again, shy bother???

[global1]

12. I Had The Exact Same Experience With Lawrence.....

I tuned in to his show because I generally like his style - and like you said it became a fawn-fest for Hillary. I did the same as you did and tuned him out and that was none too soon. I was going to post about it last night - but thought I'd wait until this morning and then I see your post which expresses my exact same sentiment. I wonder how many more people turned of MSHRC?

[sabrina 1]

21. He'a such a Third Way tool. I stopped watching him years ago.

[randys1]

53. O'Donnell is a 3rd way tool?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

65. I'd consider him more of a Republican...

Want examples?

How about his man crush for Tail Hook Dubya on the Lincoln and then Fred Thompson? Then there's the time he said on the air to Giuliani that nobody was doing more than him to get him elected. Then there's the time he was on the air with Imus and said "America wants a little bit a fascism".

There's plenty of other examples.

His own staff coined the nickname "Tweety" because of the yellow color he uses to dye his hair.

Which led to me creating this graphic:

[Fawke Em]

25. I haven't watched it much for the past few months.

I switched to watching Keith Olbermann on Current until he was gone again, so I went back to MSNBC for a bit, but, it was going downhill at that point.

Then, they got rid of Big Ed and Joy and Alex and kept that wienie Joey Scar so I thought, "to hell with them." If they want to move to the right, fine, but I don't have to watch them. They've not become so integral a part of my life that I have to have them on. I have the Internet, for Pete's sake.

You guys realize that's what Faux News did, don't you? When they first started, they were a scrappy little network. I watched them a lot during the Columbine shooting story. I was on bed rest with my first child and had just left full time reporting to freelance while raising my son (who came a month after Columbine), so I appreciated how forceful and fresh they were in their reporting of that event and others.

So, I started watching them over CNN, which had grown stale and trite. It wasn't until the 2000 elections that I began seeing the creeping fascism of right-wing spew. Luckily, having been trained in communications, I knew what propaganda was and how to recognize it, so I turned them off and never went back. But, what they tried to do was "hook" people into watching them because they were fresh before they started dishing out the propaganda. Many viewers never knew what hit them - they just seemed to start believing right-wing BS overnight.

MSNBC is the same. They had good shows in the early 2000s with Keith and then when Rachel was new. They added a good line-up with Ed and others, so we left-leaning folks started watching. Now that they figure they have us hooked, they've switched to being more conserva-Dem and establishment-oriented, hoping we'll all just jump up and cheer the pro-corporate, pro-hawk Clinton.

Nope. Not me. I have the Internet.

[DrBulldog]

41. Try: All In with Chris Hayes

He is very aggressive in fairly delivering the news and the analysis, and very, very smart. For me he's #1 on MSNBC right now. As for Rachel Maddow who slowly repeats her points over and over and over - she has badly faded in her initial level of quality.

[Fawke Em]

48. I have "tried" him.

I still see far too much conserva-Dem butt kissing on his show than I'd like to see.

The "left" has no real television presence.

[Blue_In_AK]

47. Chris Hayes is the only one I watch now.

I've gotten tired of Rachel's habit of repeating the same thing different ways six or seven times as if we're all too stupid to "get it" the first time.

[ChiciB1]

58. Yeah, IF I Watch MSNBC Anymore, Which Is Rare, It Will Be

Chris Hayes. I just bought a ROKU since I dropped DISH and switched to cable and didn't order the everything channels. While watching FSTV they have documentaries and there's one he's in and he comes right out and says he's a liberal.

BUT, I once thought Lawrence was more on the Liberal side, seems he's NOT. As for Rachel, I feel she's all in for Hillary and I began to notice she seemed to have so many more commercials every time I checked in. Starts with, coming up, subject of something, go to commercial, then says almost same thing again, another commercial, comes back and still not covering the expected subject but a few words on something else, another commercial and THEN the subject we were waiting for. I've never counted the times she said "watch this space" in any given show, but it's a LOT! Maybe all the MSNBC shows are the same, but I really noticed clearly on her show. I wonder how much time is actually spent on subject matter with shows anymore. Maybe 1/2 commercials 1/2 show, but show part could be even less.

One of the main reasons I switched and decided to use ROKU. Many times I was doing something else but still listening to the show, but then decided I could go outside and do something else but when I come back commercials are still on!

So, yeah... Only Chris Hayes is an option anymore, but I stopped watching them after Ed Schultz left. Just thought I would take a peek to see Lawrence's comments and his was almost the WORST of any show!

Even the thought of Keith Olbermann returning won't make me tune them in again. They truly SUCK!

[Bohunk68]

66. Haven't watched him in some time because of his smugness.

That just rubs my fur the wrong way in any event. I agree with you and did the same thing you did. Made me want to grab a vomit bag. Instead, I changed channels and went to Democracy Today and got sane, again.

[thesquanderer]

6. I think the increase in twitter followers is siginificant

People can argue that things like facebook polls are skewed by who people favored before the debate even started (in light of the fact that such polls are not random, participants are self-selected)... but everybody who added him to their twitter feed was someone who hadn't already added him to their twitter feed (and likewise for everyone else), so these twitter numbers really do seem to give some idea about how much "new" excitement was generated by the debate for each candidate. At least among the demographic that uses Twitter.

Google searches don't prove as much to me... Sure, Sanders was googled more, and some of that was probably in reaction to what he was saying, but the fact that Hillary was googled less could also be in part because she was already so familiar to most debate watchers, whereas Bernie was not. You don't google what you already know...

[sabrina 1]

23. Yes, about 50,000 I think, PLUS 37,600 individual donations totally $$1.3 Million during the

debate.

Not to mention the Google searches on Bernie who was the top one searched during and after the debate.

The ONLY people now claiming Hillary won are the Corporate media stenographers, thanks Colbert. They tand alone against the FACTS but what is else new for our Corporate propaganda machine?

[DrBulldog]

42. Actually, those donations have now reached $2 million from 44,000 people!

[AlbertCat]

40. she was already so familiar to most debate watchers, whereas Bernie was not.

UH.... thats kinda the whole point.

Now they know who he is and what he's about. Maybe they don't have to vote for the only name they recognize now!

Clinton is so old news.... same ol' same ol'.... status quo....etc etc

Everyone seems to be impressed that she didn't freak out at the debate but remained cool. What about what she said. Oh yeah.... she's a progressive now.

[Dem2]

7. Yes, he was arguing against the others on his panel who all thought Hillary had won

I did not expect this from Tweety, it was interesting. Problem with him is he'll change his position in an instant - he has a 'thing' about being seen as biased toward any particular politician over any extended period of time. In fact, the next night (last night) he was already favoring a 'tie' rating - declaring both Hillary and Bernie the winners.

[yallerdawg]

8. Chris Matthews is an employee of MSNBC.

MSNBC Loves Bernie/Trump and Hates Hillary.

Of course Chris Matthews serves his master.

[Robbins]

11. Oh jesus

the MSM does not love bernie.MSNBC got rid of only pro-bernie host-ed schultz.matthews has been going after bernie and pumping clinton's inevitialablty.clintons and supporters have to stop playing the victims.

[yallerdawg]

15. I stopped watching MSNBC "Bash Hillary" marathon months ago!

I could get that on Fox!

You are telling me the corporate M$M loves Hillary?

[Volaris]

32. No the GOP. but they need an opponent for whoever the

GOP puppet is that they don't hate, so as to give the appearance of non-biased reporting.
If Bernie is the DemNominee, they won't be able to hide the loathing and hatred for him of their corporate Masters, and they damnwell know it.

The whole thing is about not looking at the man behind the curtain, but I think this time they won't be able to fool enough of the People to pull it off.

And it scares the Bejezuz out of them.
As it well should hahahaha.

Go, Bernie, Go!!

[Marty McGraw]

55. ( ._.)

M$M Loves Money.

Money Craves More Money.

Where is the Resulting future Cash Flow in Supporting someone like 'Bernie'?

Such a plain & simple answer when one looks right down to it. Really...

[Marty McGraw]

56. and, yes...

the mega M$M corps are implied in the above's statement of 'Future Cash Flow'

just to keep the fangs from showing

[yallerdawg]

57. It's called advertising dollars and ratings.

An uncontested "coronation" would have no drama, no conflict, no viewership, no advertisers, no ratings.

You all do understand this "primary contest" has been managed? If ratings justify it, there will be more than 6 televised debates, you know. There was just no expectation...

Fox and CNN debates have had the highest rated non-sports cable viewership in history, most watched debates in history. 15 plus million watched the Democratic debate, way over expectation!

Money, money, money...

[ChiciB1]

59. Hey "yallerdawg" Haven't You Heard What MSNBC Means Now?

A new acronym has been created and is being used more and more. MSNBC = Make Sure No Bernie Coverage! So, if they're propping up Repukes these days they've really TANKED! I DIDN'T create the acronym so I wonder who they ARE covering!

Couldn't disagree with your opinion more.

[yallerdawg]

60. I watched MSNBC for years.

Bernie gets positive coverage ad nauseum. While bashing Hillary ad nauseum.

I had to turn it off.

Acronyms? MSNBC doesn't cover Bernie because acronym says so?

[ChiciB1]

62. Have It Your Way... n/t

[Duval]

20. That was my assessment.

When Comcast bought MSNBC, progressives took a back seat. I am very surprised!

[Eric J in MN]

16. Chris Matthews said that he was in disagreement

...with his co-hosts who said Hillary Clinton had won the debate.

[yallerdawg]

24. Maybe, sometimes...

you just can't deny the truth. Especially if it's on video.

That's why I believe Chris Matthews has to be serving something other than the truth.

[Eric J in MN]

49. Chris Matthews said that Sanders

...had a consistent theme and Clinton didn't.

[yallerdawg]

50. The M$M has a consistent theme...

That Hillary isn't "consistent" - among other 3-decade-old themes.

So, Chris Matthews - and MSNBC - "Hate Hillary" and promote the 2 upstarts, Sanders and Trump.

Sanders won the debate? Chris Matthews on MSNBC makes this credible? You know what else isn't consistent?

[Eric J in MN]

51. Maybe Chris Matthews hates Hillary Clinton.

However, if MSNBC ordered all the hosts to say Bernie Sanders won, then I don't think he'd be the only host to do so. I don't think there was any such order.

[yallerdawg]

54. Can we have it both ways?

Chris Matthews, noted pundit for MSNBC, says Senator Sanders (I-VT) won the Democratic Primary debate.

The M$M and all the pundits are all wrong all the time, and are not to be trusted as they serve the corporations and oligarchs - except for Chris Matthews who just picked Sanders as the winner.

This is where we start twisting into pretzel-shaped inconsistency...

[delrem]

64. Contrary to your assertions,

Chris Matthews was about the only MSM "pundit" to even hint that Sanders might have "won" anything.
And you know this, so you're prevaricating.

But yes, the MSM sucks.

Now you assert that because a Bernie supporter happens to agree with Chris Matthews *this one time*, that supporter somehow "trusts" Matthews. But that was never anyone's claim.

In fact if you bother to read upthread, most Sanders supporters are fucking amazed by Mr. "We're all neocons now" Matthews.

Bye.

[marlakay]

30. I wonder if he is ready to quit

I have felt that all of them have been told to praise Hillary. Rachel backed off talking good about Bernie and I highly think she hasn't changed her mind.

[Ed Suspicious]

17. Do you not remember the DWS/socialist interview?

[yallerdawg]

22. I don't watch MSNBC.

If you want to argue M$M credibility and how 'fair and balanced' they can be, go right ahead.

You will never convince me Chris Matthews doesn't work for a pay check like the rest of us, and doesn't do his masters' bidding.

But if he's for Bernie, I guess its pretzel-making time?

[sabrina 1]

27. Lol, where is that channel you've been watching??? Mathews doesn't like Bernie at all.

But it's hard to buck the mounting evidence including every way the winner could be determined when the entire world now has those facts.

Every media Focus group, every media poll, 37,600 individual donations to Bernie during the debate, another $1.3 million for him, tens of thousands of new, individual new followers on Twitter.

Top googled candidate etc etc.

Now if you and the ONLY group who are still trying to claim Hillary, who was awful on the issues, she simply took Bernie's positions and tried to include a few of her always expected views re College tuition, the old 'teaching responsibility, pull up your bootstraps' routine she has become known for. THAT is not popular either with ordinary people.

IF the small group now standing almost alone with the claim that she won, can show even one piece of evidence, other than their own claims, not even sure if it's their own OPINIONS, I have not seen it.

Eg, how many individual small donations did she receive?? Let's start there.

[yallerdawg]

31. The premise of this OP...

is Chris Matthews argues Sanders won the debate contrary to all the other MSNBC cohosts.

And his proof is Facebook and Twitter hits.

Keep telling me Chris Matthews doesn't like Bernie.

[stupidicus]

10. http://us10.campaign-archive2.com/?u=8c573daa3ad72f4a095505b58&id=b44dadb66c&e=55c2353af2

eom

[brooklynite]

13. Remind me who Chris Matthews works for?

I can recall folks yesterday saying Rachel Maddow was saying Clinton won because "management" ordered her to. Conspiracy theories are really hard to keep up with.

[shenmue]

18. It doesn't matter

We're not welcome here.

[sabrina 1]

29. Do you agree with the rest of the talking heads, the only group now in the country still claiming

Hillary won??? In spite of all the statistics we now have proving them wrong??

Mathews apparently could not argue with the facts, didn't get the memo or whatever, but he is the ONLY Corporate employee who is saying what the rest of the world and the Stats show, that no way did she win.

So who does he work for? Same Corps the other dozen or so work.

Do you think all the rest of the Corp media talking heads were ordered by the management to say Hillary won or was it Mathews alone they ordered to say she didn't?

Most people have concuded that Mathews may receive a warning, as we know Keith and Donohue and anyone else who strays from the message, have received for breaking way from the 'message'.

Iow, it's odd isn't it, that now only the Corp media is denying all the other facts that prove Bernie is the winner and PEOPLE KNOW what they are doing.

[in_cog_ni_to]

34. Donahue: The highest rated show on MSNBC at the time they fired him.

Because he refused to push the Iraq War. MSNBC decided they needed to be more "patriotic" since we were going to war. Idiots.

Chris Matthews must feel pretty secure in his job to go against the PTB against Hillary.
I'm still shocked he's saying Bernie won! But happy he is!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[Uncle Joe]

28. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, kpete.

[Sunlei]

33. They both are GREAT. Team-UP you Two.

Ds need them both . Let the primary voters pick who will be VP or President. Clinton and Sanders have always said to let the voters decide.

[NewJeffCT]

35. I'm not supporting anybody in the primaries

but, adding twitter followers is not exactly a scientific measurement of popularity. Hillary has about 4.5 million Twitter followers, and Bernie has a little over 700,000 on one twitter account and 800,000 on his other account, but that's also not a scientific measurement, either.

The same with online polling - I remember when people on here used to ask "DU this Poll" or "Unfreep this poll" because people thought it was important and so often the Freepers would swamp polls thinking it could influence opinion. However, those online polls are not conducted scientifically like a Q-Poll, 538 (which averages polls), etc. and DUing/Freeping polls means little nowadays.

[DrBulldog]

38. Before you jump on Chris Matthews for alleged "Hillary hating" ...

... take a good hard look at Andrea Mitchell for her continual disrespect she shows publically for Bernie.

By the way, there was only one candidate that DID NOT SHOW for the spin-room interviews: Hillary! Apparently she has the whole thing sewn up, so what would be the point?

[ChiciB1]

61. I Wondered If Anyone Else Noticed That Too!

There was so much of who won, who didn't win I was sure if I started a Thread it would soon drop like a popped balloon. But I DID notice that!

Guess the DWS corner picked their asses up and took flight! I simply CAN'T understand why so many here are in the dark about this stuff. It's like a distraction technique they've mastered and it's actually working very well. You know the thing... LOOK over here so you won't see what's happening over there. Or what's NOT happening!

I've been an activist for more years than I like to admit, but it breaks my heart that our Democratic Party has changed so very, very much. I suppose if others never saw how it was when they did seem to be on the people's side I'd have to forgive them. But I just can't look the other way while telling people they're something they're not. I've lived during a time when it was very different. NEVER pure, but not so blatantly devious!

AND I KNOW, I'll get attacked or maybe even have someone report me to "the jury" but I still have my memory.

[Babel_17]

52. The facts betray their bias

lol

[Gamecock Lefty]

67. Chris Matthews also said . . .

"People like Bernie's passion, but are FOR Hillary."