2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSorry, corporate media, but we are sick of this shit!
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We are sick of politics as usual. That's what has gotten us into this mess. In terms of the Democratic Presidential candidates you are trying to shove down our throats, both Clinton and Biden are the very embodiments of business as usual politics.
We are sick to death of business as usual politics because we know business as usual politics will only lead to:
more historically record breaking wealth inequality
more one-way "bipartisanship"
more election spending, rigging, and buying
more government of the top 1%, by the top 1%, and for the top 1%
more trade agreements that benefit only the top 0.1%
more union busting
more Wall Street speculation and Wall Street power
more media, bank, and pharma consolidation
more ridiculously expensive Big Pharma, Big Insurance Frankencare
more student debt for less education
more jails and debtors prisons
more police brutality, profiling, and institutional racism
more fracking, global warming, and environmental destruction
more government and corporate spying on everywhere we go, everything we say, and everything we do
more insanely expensive and counterproductively destabilizing military misadventures
more incredibly wasteful military and "security" state boondoggles
more working harder to make less
more attacks on Social Security, disability, pensions, and other safety nets
more scapegoating of minorities, gays, and poor people
We are sick of all of this shit. And we are sick of corporate media and "Third Way" supporters telling us that we have to keep eating all of this shit for our own good, because being against all of this shit is "too radical."
Sorry, but it is not too radical. A large majority of the US population is already against almost all of this shit, despite your best efforts to force feed it to us. And if you were ever to report world and national events responsibly, the vast majority of the US population would be up in arms about all of this shit!
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)You don't speak for "us"
You speak for you!
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)They got theirs, F you and yours!
wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)so happy they are doing okay,but most of us ARE NOT!!!!!!!!
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)You have a Hillary in your mind that you rail against.
I am not going to at a game where someone throws out their bull shit talking points and I am supposed to defend against them.
There are Hillary biographies out there. She has a record as Senator and as Secretary of State.
Read them
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)She has a SoS record of being a neoliberal warhawk who is quick to rattle her sabre and get our military involved in our countries' affairs.
She has a Senatorial record of, in her own words, "representing Wall Street."
She would have liked to campaign just to the right of Obama. Had it not been for Sanders' insurgency, she would still be campaigning just to the right of Obama. If she wins the Democratic nomination, she will return to campaigning just to the right of Obama. And if she becomes President, the Republican crazies (who will continue to have majorities in both houses because of low voter turnout, especially among the young and disempowered) will continue to treat her and her center-right proposals as if she were the Anti-Christ. How is that scenario anything but business as usual?
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)I posted a short biography
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)I do not get how anyone can argue that espousing 4 years of Clinton after 8 years of Obama is not espousing business as usual. YMMV
Armstead
(47,803 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)bullshit meme that Clinton won the debate. It will warm your heart.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Everyone is losing it over this latest BLATANT LIE told to us by the same liars who helped lie us into the Iraq War. They think we FORGET these things.
WRONG!
This is the most blatant suppression of the facts I've seen for a long time.
But it isn't working at all and is only going to harm their Corporate Candidates because we will USE it to demonstrate how thoroughly corrupt and RIGGED the whole system is.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)eventual candidates: Hillary and Trump.
I am in some kind of parallel universe, right?
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Sinking poll numbers or not, the Oligarchs will 'fix it'. But I don't think they anticipated what is happening with Bernie. And now they are panicking.
Things have gotten out of their control, for now.
Which is why it's vitally important that we have milliions of people fighting them and their smear campaigns and lies, and talking points.
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)saw with our own eyes or heard with our own ears anymore.
They cannot tell us that their shit smells like roses and expect us to buy it anymore.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)It's time for change.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,332 posts)Thanks for the thread, mhatrw.
TrollBuster9090
(5,954 posts)Except of Biden and Hilary being equal examples of corporate Democrats. I think Biden isn't half the corporate Democrat that Hilary is. Other than that...carry on.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)
..the other day say that Bernie is not really radicalactually "He sounds like Harry Truman".
But that's before the Democratic party was moved so far to the rightpushed right of center from within, by people like the Clintons and the DLC.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)With the determined assistance of millions of shareholders across the globe they warp and twist our reality and thereby our democracy through bribery, deceit and outright propaganda.
Each shareholder normalizes the ideas and ideals of corporatism over capitalism for those around them and with the murders, with the bondage and with the atrocities against all living things taking place far from anywhere their eyes are looking, and even then, through a series of parent corporations and sub-sub-sub contractors they never realize the connection and they will never see the eyes or hear the screams of the people they finance the silencing of in the name of false quarterly profits.
Just as every slave owner normalized the subjugation, humiliation and torture of people, so does every shareholder normalize the exact same atrocities today. Just far from prying eyes and far from anywhere corporate media will show you.
Hell, they are even destroying our very ecosystems. The jet stream and growing seasons we have all evolved and depended on for a hundred thousand years to advance our species to such a brilliant level of denial. What does it matter what small battles we win if we lose the war of staying a viable and stable society? We will lose everything, every species of life we love and admire, every written word, every work of art, every thought and advance in our understanding of ourselves and our universe.
Those of us who seek reality can find it. But you have to look harder each day. Corporate media protects its own and its own are its owners. They all own a little piece of each other and have a fiduciary responsibility to protect themselves. Even from themselves. Even, as we know, at the expense of everything.
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)historylovr
(1,557 posts)mhatrw
(10,786 posts)down all of own throats.