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DhhD

(4,695 posts)
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 05:34 AM Oct 2015

FAIR-Clinton's Privatization Bill Of Oct. 22,1998; Is Social Security On The Table With Hillary?

http://www.govexec.com/federal-news/1998/10/clinton-signs-privatization-bill/4725/

On Monday, President Clinton signed the Federal Activities Inventory Reform (FAIR) Act of 1998, which requires federal agencies to review their activities and define them as either inherently governmental or potentially subject to privatization. The bill had passed the Senate in August and the House earlier this month.
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Hillary Clinton is inferring that means testing will help Social Security recipients. Who is planning on giving the testing to and how will we the taxpayers and recipients pay for the testing? Oh, I believe that she has a team on Wall Street already in waiting. IMO Clinton wants to secure a fee FOR Wall Street and Sanders wants to take a tiny fee FROM Wall Street for each of its transactions. I agree with Bernie.
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FAIR-Clinton's Privatization Bill Of Oct. 22,1998; Is Social Security On The Table With Hillary? (Original Post) DhhD Oct 2015 OP
You obviously know nothing about her Soc Security plans-yet post a 1998 article? Then you riversedge Oct 2015 #1
The Clinton administration pushed a lot of right-wing crap jfern Oct 2015 #2
We are talking about HIllary Clinton's position on Soc Security --not Bill Clinton. riversedge Oct 2015 #3
Her own words during the debate . . . markpkessinger Oct 2015 #10
"Two for the price of one" Clintons both defend NAFTA and welfare "reform" cprise Oct 2015 #14
I know a bit about her good pal Pete Peterson. Scuba Oct 2015 #8
According to this, Social Security would be been privitized jfern Oct 2015 #4
And once again-we are talking about Hillary's position on Soc Security and you keep brining riversedge Oct 2015 #5
She's 3rd way to the bone just like her husband jfern Oct 2015 #6
Well, since you are not on this thread to discuss anything riversedge Oct 2015 #7
What a sexist asinine comment Sheepshank Oct 2015 #15
Quit playing the sexist card jfern Oct 2015 #18
No it's sexist to claim Hillary is nothing but a shadow of Bill Sheepshank Oct 2015 #22
No one said she's just a shadow jfern Oct 2015 #24
We are not talking about Jeb....poor deflection Sheepshank Oct 2015 #25
We are talking about candidates for the 2016 election who base their policies on past and DhhD Oct 2015 #30
Thank the gods for unintended consequences! Divernan Oct 2015 #12
What that article depicts is CHILLING: cprise Oct 2015 #16
everything's on the table with Hillary ibegurpard Oct 2015 #9
When it comes to Social Security, Medicare and entitlements, Hillary scares me. Vinca Oct 2015 #11
Hillary has 100% rating from ARA for protecting SS. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #13
Obama probably did too jfern Oct 2015 #19
Any policy that profits wealthy private interests is always on the table Zorra Oct 2015 #17
Any Democrat who uses code phrases like "ensuring the viability of SS" means that liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #20
What does a Bill Clinton bill-signing in 1998 have to MineralMan Oct 2015 #21
Its called FAIR: Democrats can be Republicans upon being backed by the Right team! DhhD Oct 2015 #23
It will be if Wall Street tells her to put it on the table...[n/t] Maedhros Oct 2015 #26
Privatizing is another star in the blanket on the back of the Elephant. DhhD Oct 2015 #29
If you vote for Clinton Robbins Oct 2015 #27
This message needs to be spread as widely as possible tularetom Oct 2015 #28
come on reddread Oct 2015 #31

riversedge

(70,182 posts)
1. You obviously know nothing about her Soc Security plans-yet post a 1998 article? Then you
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 05:43 AM
Oct 2015

make inferences about What?? Means testing?? What are you saying?

jfern

(5,204 posts)
2. The Clinton administration pushed a lot of right-wing crap
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 05:49 AM
Oct 2015

So lets not have another right-wing Clinton as President

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
10. Her own words during the debate . . .
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 07:06 AM
Oct 2015

. . . sounded an awful lot like support for means-testing:

"I want to enhance the benefits for the poorest recipients of Social Security. We have a lot of women on Social Security, particularly widowed and single women who didn't make a lot of money during their careers, and they are impoverished, and they need more help from the Social Security system.

And I will focus -- I will focus on helping those people who need it the most. And of course I'm going to defend Social Security. I'm going to look for ways to try to make sure it's solvent into the future.

cprise

(8,445 posts)
14. "Two for the price of one" Clintons both defend NAFTA and welfare "reform"
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:42 AM
Oct 2015

And Hillary exerted a "veto" power over Bill's cabinet... if she did not like someone they had to go.

What do you think that is, housekeeping?

If she exerted that kind of power over the cabinet, then she IS responsible for Bill's presidency!

Apart from her flattering public charade for healthcare, behind the scenes she was very much involved. Its inconceivable that she would continue to defend NAFTA now as a "progressive" unless she considered it a personal accomplishment.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
8. I know a bit about her good pal Pete Peterson.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 06:54 AM
Oct 2015

If Hillary is elected POTUS, say goodbye to Social Security.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
4. According to this, Social Security would be been privitized
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 05:58 AM
Oct 2015

had Bill not been impeached for having a BJ.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2004/10/30/how-monica-lewinsky-saved-social-security/


Lets not elect any more of these Clinton "Democrats".

riversedge

(70,182 posts)
5. And once again-we are talking about Hillary's position on Soc Security and you keep brining
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 06:13 AM
Oct 2015

up old crap that may or may not have happened.

riversedge

(70,182 posts)
7. Well, since you are not on this thread to discuss anything
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 06:36 AM
Oct 2015

pertinent to the OP then I am finished with your comments. Enough. bye

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
15. What a sexist asinine comment
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:48 AM
Oct 2015

She's not Bill. She is not a shadow person and sycophant in that relationship. You should be ashamed of your comment...trying to put women in their place has no place on DU.

What a disgusting angle you are pushing over and over.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
18. Quit playing the sexist card
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:22 PM
Oct 2015

It was pathetic to use it in 2008 and it's pathetic now. She has enough of a record of her own to see that she's perfectly 3rd way. Are you saying it's somehow sexist to criticize Jeb for having his brother and dad be terrible Presidents?

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
22. No it's sexist to claim Hillary is nothing but a shadow of Bill
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 07:16 PM
Oct 2015

A sychophant without a brain of her own.

You attempting to change the trajectory of those words tells me someone is trying to walk it back

Yes, it was sexist and disgusting and puts women's self directed abilities back decades. Thanks for nothing. That comments belong on a RW blog.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
24. No one said she's just a shadow
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 07:18 PM
Oct 2015

She's got enough of a record to see that her positions on the issues are similar to this of her husbands. In 2008, Obama supporters were all said to be sexist for not supporting her, and it seems like the same baseless attacks are going on here.

Again, when someone says Jeb would be a shitty President like his brother, are people being sexist?

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
30. We are talking about candidates for the 2016 election who base their policies on past and
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 10:57 AM
Oct 2015

present Presidents. Hillary says that she will go further with Obama's policies; listen to her. Go further with chaining Social Security, and what do you get? Testing. For what reason? We need to raise the amount of income for every American. Income equality is not a policy of Hillary Clinton, in my opinion.

Privatizers have come in to public education and moved it to profiteers by TESTING students. Head of U. S. Department of Education has resigned.

People are not going to go along with Hillary on means testing. Period.

When I look at Hillary Clinton's policies and look into her window of personality and accomplishmenting, if you will; to me, she is a 1% Populist, not a Progressive.

For Democrats, the choice is looking like, Sanders/Left/Progressive vs. Clinton/Left-Right/Populist vs. Republican/Right/Extremist, before the Primaries.

IMO, Clinton is the new Left of Right Democrat. And we certainly do not need anyone running to the right of Obama; no more extremism, please.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
12. Thank the gods for unintended consequences!
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 09:36 AM
Oct 2015

Also, technically, he was not impeached for getting a blow job in the Oval Office, but for lying about it under oath.

In any case, on behalf of all us social security recipients, a heartfelt thank you to Monica Lewinsky, whose life Bill Clinton permanently marred.

cprise

(8,445 posts)
16. What that article depicts is CHILLING:
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:52 AM
Oct 2015

WH was far along in its planning for privatization and knew it would be very unpopular. When the Lewinsky scandal hit, he turned to the public as Social Security's savior in order to save his own skin!!!

It even makes sense from the standpoint of coping with the Repubs: He could flip on the issue and use it as a bargaining chip. The Republicans grossly miscalculated!

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
9. everything's on the table with Hillary
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 06:57 AM
Oct 2015

Except reinstatement of actual meaningful regulation of the financial industry that worked for 60 years...

Vinca

(50,255 posts)
11. When it comes to Social Security, Medicare and entitlements, Hillary scares me.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 07:30 AM
Oct 2015

If anyone would offer a compromise that screws the average person over, it would be Hillary. She learned from Bill who passed "reform" legislation by holding hands with Newt Gingrich. This isn't what we need.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
19. Obama probably did too
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:24 PM
Oct 2015

That didn't stop him from coming up with that terrible chained CPI idea.

As if CPI isn't already vastly overstated. The CPI-U has actually gone down over the last 12 months. Funny how none of my expenses have gone down.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
17. Any policy that profits wealthy private interests is always on the table
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:59 AM
Oct 2015

for Third Way politicians.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
20. Any Democrat who uses code phrases like "ensuring the viability of SS" means that
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:27 PM
Oct 2015

cuts to SS are on the table. If they really wanted to ensure the viability of SS they would expand it like Bernie wants to do.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
21. What does a Bill Clinton bill-signing in 1998 have to
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:34 PM
Oct 2015

do with Hillary Clinton in 2015? While they share a last name and are married to each other, one was President. The other wasn't. In fact, she wasn't in any office at the time.

Want to know what she things. Ask her. Bill Clinton's history from almost 20 years ago isn't pertinent.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
23. Its called FAIR: Democrats can be Republicans upon being backed by the Right team!
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 07:16 PM
Oct 2015

Hillary scares me to death!

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
29. Privatizing is another star in the blanket on the back of the Elephant.
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 09:50 AM
Oct 2015

Privatizing Social Security would be moving a star to the top of the blanket or maybe merit enough, for the GOP to add a star.

Under the FAIR Star, Hillary could make the decision, after, coming into office, just as she has told Americans about her, Plans, that are deeper than Obama's. This scares me to death!

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
27. If you vote for Clinton
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 07:41 PM
Oct 2015

enjoy your cuts to SS.unfortully your probally ensure me and others on SSI get cuts too.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
28. This message needs to be spread as widely as possible
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 07:42 PM
Oct 2015

And someone on Bernie Sanders staff needs to find a way for him to introduce it into the conversation without overtly making it personal, since he dislikes negative campaigning. But it's important that all Americans who have contributed to SS become aware of it.

BTW, she wants the kind of "means testing" that will really help SS recipients? Fine, just remove the income cap for contributions to the fund. That's means testing that would help everybody, except maybe the people who have given her tons of money.

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