2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumFAIR-Clinton's Privatization Bill Of Oct. 22,1998; Is Social Security On The Table With Hillary?
http://www.govexec.com/federal-news/1998/10/clinton-signs-privatization-bill/4725/On Monday, President Clinton signed the Federal Activities Inventory Reform (FAIR) Act of 1998, which requires federal agencies to review their activities and define them as either inherently governmental or potentially subject to privatization. The bill had passed the Senate in August and the House earlier this month.
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Hillary Clinton is inferring that means testing will help Social Security recipients. Who is planning on giving the testing to and how will we the taxpayers and recipients pay for the testing? Oh, I believe that she has a team on Wall Street already in waiting. IMO Clinton wants to secure a fee FOR Wall Street and Sanders wants to take a tiny fee FROM Wall Street for each of its transactions. I agree with Bernie.
riversedge
(70,182 posts)make inferences about What?? Means testing?? What are you saying?
jfern
(5,204 posts)So lets not have another right-wing Clinton as President
riversedge
(70,182 posts)markpkessinger
(8,392 posts). . . sounded an awful lot like support for means-testing:
And I will focus -- I will focus on helping those people who need it the most. And of course I'm going to defend Social Security. I'm going to look for ways to try to make sure it's solvent into the future.
cprise
(8,445 posts)And Hillary exerted a "veto" power over Bill's cabinet... if she did not like someone they had to go.
What do you think that is, housekeeping?
If she exerted that kind of power over the cabinet, then she IS responsible for Bill's presidency!
Apart from her flattering public charade for healthcare, behind the scenes she was very much involved. Its inconceivable that she would continue to defend NAFTA now as a "progressive" unless she considered it a personal accomplishment.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)If Hillary is elected POTUS, say goodbye to Social Security.
jfern
(5,204 posts)had Bill not been impeached for having a BJ.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2004/10/30/how-monica-lewinsky-saved-social-security/
Lets not elect any more of these Clinton "Democrats".
riversedge
(70,182 posts)up old crap that may or may not have happened.
jfern
(5,204 posts)riversedge
(70,182 posts)pertinent to the OP then I am finished with your comments. Enough. bye
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)She's not Bill. She is not a shadow person and sycophant in that relationship. You should be ashamed of your comment...trying to put women in their place has no place on DU.
What a disgusting angle you are pushing over and over.
jfern
(5,204 posts)It was pathetic to use it in 2008 and it's pathetic now. She has enough of a record of her own to see that she's perfectly 3rd way. Are you saying it's somehow sexist to criticize Jeb for having his brother and dad be terrible Presidents?
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)A sychophant without a brain of her own.
You attempting to change the trajectory of those words tells me someone is trying to walk it back
Yes, it was sexist and disgusting and puts women's self directed abilities back decades. Thanks for nothing. That comments belong on a RW blog.
jfern
(5,204 posts)She's got enough of a record to see that her positions on the issues are similar to this of her husbands. In 2008, Obama supporters were all said to be sexist for not supporting her, and it seems like the same baseless attacks are going on here.
Again, when someone says Jeb would be a shitty President like his brother, are people being sexist?
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)DhhD
(4,695 posts)present Presidents. Hillary says that she will go further with Obama's policies; listen to her. Go further with chaining Social Security, and what do you get? Testing. For what reason? We need to raise the amount of income for every American. Income equality is not a policy of Hillary Clinton, in my opinion.
Privatizers have come in to public education and moved it to profiteers by TESTING students. Head of U. S. Department of Education has resigned.
People are not going to go along with Hillary on means testing. Period.
When I look at Hillary Clinton's policies and look into her window of personality and accomplishmenting, if you will; to me, she is a 1% Populist, not a Progressive.
For Democrats, the choice is looking like, Sanders/Left/Progressive vs. Clinton/Left-Right/Populist vs. Republican/Right/Extremist, before the Primaries.
IMO, Clinton is the new Left of Right Democrat. And we certainly do not need anyone running to the right of Obama; no more extremism, please.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)Also, technically, he was not impeached for getting a blow job in the Oval Office, but for lying about it under oath.
In any case, on behalf of all us social security recipients, a heartfelt thank you to Monica Lewinsky, whose life Bill Clinton permanently marred.
cprise
(8,445 posts)WH was far along in its planning for privatization and knew it would be very unpopular. When the Lewinsky scandal hit, he turned to the public as Social Security's savior in order to save his own skin!!!
It even makes sense from the standpoint of coping with the Repubs: He could flip on the issue and use it as a bargaining chip. The Republicans grossly miscalculated!
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Except reinstatement of actual meaningful regulation of the financial industry that worked for 60 years...
Vinca
(50,255 posts)If anyone would offer a compromise that screws the average person over, it would be Hillary. She learned from Bill who passed "reform" legislation by holding hands with Newt Gingrich. This isn't what we need.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)That didn't stop him from coming up with that terrible chained CPI idea.
As if CPI isn't already vastly overstated. The CPI-U has actually gone down over the last 12 months. Funny how none of my expenses have gone down.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)for Third Way politicians.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)cuts to SS are on the table. If they really wanted to ensure the viability of SS they would expand it like Bernie wants to do.
MineralMan
(146,284 posts)do with Hillary Clinton in 2015? While they share a last name and are married to each other, one was President. The other wasn't. In fact, she wasn't in any office at the time.
Want to know what she things. Ask her. Bill Clinton's history from almost 20 years ago isn't pertinent.
DhhD
(4,695 posts)Hillary scares me to death!
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)DhhD
(4,695 posts)Privatizing Social Security would be moving a star to the top of the blanket or maybe merit enough, for the GOP to add a star.
Under the FAIR Star, Hillary could make the decision, after, coming into office, just as she has told Americans about her, Plans, that are deeper than Obama's. This scares me to death!
Robbins
(5,066 posts)enjoy your cuts to SS.unfortully your probally ensure me and others on SSI get cuts too.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)And someone on Bernie Sanders staff needs to find a way for him to introduce it into the conversation without overtly making it personal, since he dislikes negative campaigning. But it's important that all Americans who have contributed to SS become aware of it.
BTW, she wants the kind of "means testing" that will really help SS recipients? Fine, just remove the income cap for contributions to the fund. That's means testing that would help everybody, except maybe the people who have given her tons of money.
reddread
(6,896 posts)Wall St. needs the money more than anyone else that matters.