Sanders keeps lead over Clinton - Franklin Pierce-Herald poll

[Bubzer]

A dominant first debate failed to give Hillary Clinton a big lift in New Hampshire, as voters continue to stick with Democratic rival Bernie Sanders and hold out for Vice President Joe Biden, a new Franklin Pierce University-Boston Herald poll reveals.

Sanders holds a 38-30 percent lead over Clinton in the first-in-the-nation primary state, while Biden draws 19 percent in the poll of 403 likely Democratic primary voters conducted immediately after last week's debate.

Sanders' 8-point lead is essentially unchanged from the 44-37 percent advantage the Vermont senator held in a stunning Franklin Pierce-Herald poll in August -- the first to show the former Secretary of State behind in New Hampshire.

The new poll also has Sanders holding an even bigger 10-point lead over Clinton if Biden isn't in the presidential field.

The results suggest Clinton will have a tough time overcoming the deficit, as more than half of notoriously finicky Granite State voters now say they have made up their minds.

https://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/herald_bulldog/2015/10/franklin_pierce_herald_poll_sanders_keeps_lead

[still_one]

1. So this is a Boston Herald poll. A Boston Globe poll taken after the debates gave a very different

result. Your choice

[brooklynite]

2. ...conducted by a University

http://www.franklinpierce.edu/

[still_one]

3. You went into it deeper than I did, thanks. In addition, the previous poll before the debates from

Granite, indicated the trend was changing toward Hillary. I guess we will see what is happening based on subsequent polls, maybe

[kenfrequed]

4. That depends

Was the Boston Globe poll asking about "what candidate you were supporting" or "who won the debate?"

[still_one]

6. It was who they were supporting

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nh/new_hampshire_democratic_presidential_primary-3351.html

[kenfrequed]

7. hmm

Probably an outlier given the rest of the polls, but who can say.

[still_one]

9. None of us can know. it is too volatile I think. Hillary is going before the Benghazi committee,

that could have a big effect. Bernie is going to give a major speech explaining exactly what Democratic Socialism is. That could have a big effect.

I think it is going to be an enlightening, informative, and interesting primary

[kenfrequed]

10. That is not going to affect Democratic voters

It isn't likely to affect Democratic primary or caucus goers at all.

I am a hard core Bernie supporter and nothing that starts with "Benghazi" is ever going to change my opinion one way or the other.

Actually, if she did some kind of crazy good job in front of the committee and ended up making them all look like morons then it might actually help her a bit. But I don't really think it is something Democrats are basing their support on.

[still_one]

11. NH is not a caucus state. As far as the Kangaroo court they call the Benghazi committee, if they

did come out with something actually damaging, I think that would change minds in the caucus meetings.

I agree, Bernie supporters are not going to be swayed, but Democrats in the caucus who aren't committed can and will be influenced I think.

[kenfrequed]

12. Thus the "or"

I did not know whether it was a primary or caucus state and decided to use "or" rather than look it up.

And I would reiterate that I doubt that any Democrat will make their mind up based on anything having to do with Benghazi or email.

[still_one]

13. didn't see the "or", sorry. You're probably right

[procon]

5. It also states that Sanders own backers don't "believe he'll be the nominee."

"But despite Sanders' strong position, few voters - including his own backers - believe he'll be the nominee. Just 13 percent of likely Democratic voters say they think Sanders will win the nomination, while 64 percent pick Clinton - nearly identical to the results in August."


It's all for nothing if that's the takeaway from the article.

[still_one]

8. Why would a backer of someone come out and say they don't believe someone they support will be

the nominee?

[Bubzer]

14. That is an excellent question!

For it to be true, supporters would have to have significant cognitive dissonance happening. I'm more inclined to believe it was a creative interpretation of what was actually said.

[still_one]

17. A lot of things don't make logical sense

[Motown_Johnny]

16. He needs to win Iowa and New Hampshire, then that will change.

Hillary will be inevitable, until she isn't.

[Motown_Johnny]

15. I am guessing many people in NH actually watched the debate

and didn't just parrot what the talking heads told them about it.