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whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 01:58 PM Oct 2015

Boy that Bernie Sanders sure is a "tax-and-spend liberal"

eh Reaganites democrats?

Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you -- Friedrich Nietzsche

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upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
1. Everyone's taxes goes up under Bernie
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 02:08 PM
Oct 2015

but not everyone's income will not go up.
I will be on pension and social security in 7 months. Raise my taxes and I have less to live on. I am not going to college. I have no kids.
Young people get free education if they go to college. Others who do not go to college get squat.
Most people will still be struggling as Bernie raises their taxes.
The socialist utopia the revolution will bring is not good for everyone.
I am not the 1%

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
3. Thank you for sharing your story
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 02:10 PM
Oct 2015

This is much more complicated than some Bernie Sanders supporters suggest.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
4. I have been retired for years and unless you have a bonanaza coming at you
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 02:11 PM
Oct 2015

you will not be paying income taxes. I live nice, have nice things a small pension, some 401K money and some savings, to have to pay taxes though you would have to be making some nice money on your stocks, heck I even cashed in stock options and did not pay income taxes.

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
5. Me, me, me, me, me.
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 02:13 PM
Oct 2015

We have a responsibility to people other than ourselves. I've never even considered bitching about the taxes I pay that go to public schools even though I'm childless by choice. I'll gleefully chip in for healthcare for everyone, free college at public schools, etc. FYI, I'm guessing I'm older than you are since I've been collecting SS for a couple of years and I wouldn't rule out taking a free course in something at a public college.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
6. I don't have kids but I'm paying for young punks to go to high school
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 02:13 PM
Oct 2015

Oooooooo the horror, the horror

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
9. You sound like every libertarian I have ever spoken to.
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 02:34 PM
Oct 2015

"I don't have kids. Why should I pay for public schools?"
"I'm healthy, why should I pay for medicaid?"
"I'm only 25, why should I pay for social security?"
"I don't drive in that part of town, why should I pay for street repair?"

TheBlackAdder

(28,169 posts)
16. You gotta love people who have no concept of Nietzsche dropping his quotes!
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 03:40 PM
Oct 2015

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Nietzsche, who ultimately went insane, has an anti-semite sister who published his 'Will to Power,' the Uber Mensche used by the Nazi's, though some claimed on Wiki that wasn't true... but it was.

Now, the stated queue dealt with the 'Death of God, expanding 'Beyond Good and Evil.' Society is animated by a decadent morality, a 'Christian' morality without its religious roots. Christianity is now something we can never truly go back to, as society moved on, forsaking it.


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Yet, what we see are people who claim to be Christians, or moral, acting in a self-centered manner.

The argument or gripe against taxes actually reinforces that quote, on the one citing it.


In NJ, we are one of the few states with Paid Family Leave. As a former residential employer, last year it cost my former employee just a little over $1 a week.


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Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
13. Got any specific complaints? The tax for family leave is a payroll tax, retirees do not pay such tax
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 03:08 PM
Oct 2015

So other than that, your complaint seems to be that you will retire with enough income to have an income tax burden. That's something to be grateful for.

You are the second anti Bernie poster today to openly say they want to keep their own precious taxes low. Barf.

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
10. There's only one admitted Reaganite
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 02:48 PM
Oct 2015

that I'm aware of on this board.

What's up with the coy strike through?

azmom

(5,208 posts)
14. They have no shame. The tax that is being
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 03:30 PM
Oct 2015

Proposed is minimal and the cause so worthy. I hope for their sake it's just something they oppose because it's part of Bernie's campaign. I am truly saddened.

What the hell happened to this party in terms of morality and values? What have we become? Maybe we are no better than the republicans we despise so much.

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