2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders Is Surging In A Fresh Batch Of New Polls
US Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont) continues to rise in the polls.
A new CNN/ORC poll released Monday showed Sanders with the biggest leap among any candidate in the 2016 field. And a new poll in the first-in-the-nation primary state of New Hampshire found him slightly expanding his lead there over former US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
In Monday's CNN poll, Sanders garnered 29% support nationally, up 5% from a similar CNN poll released a month ago.
That still put him far behind Clinton, who grabbed 45% of national Democratic primary voters. Clinton, the Democratic presidential front-runner, has seen support rebound among Democratic voters since bottoming out at 37% in a similar CNN poll released in early September. She moved up to 42% in mid-September, meaning she rose three points in Monday's poll.
And in New Hampshire, a new Franklin Pierce University/Boston Herald poll found Sanders with an eight-point lead over Clinton in the state. That was up a point from the last FPU/Boston Herald poll, and his lead increases to 10 points without Vice President Joe Biden in the survey.
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http://www.businessinsider.com/polls-bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-new-hampshire-2015-10
riversedge
(70,186 posts)I would use (i realize it is the from the article)
Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)Which verb seems appropriate to describe his change of status?
I think the word "surge" has been overused. Perhaps a thesaurus is in order for the punditry.
Being a Bernie supporter, I kind of like "steadily advancing", but "for now" could be added to keep the peace.
floriduck
(2,262 posts)That would even get the Rethug voter's attention.
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Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)Last edited Tue Oct 20, 2015, 01:01 PM - Edit history (1)
The one where he went from a virtual unknown to be a serious challenger to the carefully crafted candidate who has been in center stage nationally for 20(+) years.
Not recognizing that is a bit like saying global warming isn't real because it was cold today.
I do not think badly of Ms. Clinton. I simply do not think she will be much of an agent of change as I think we need. Moving the culture left is not as important as moving the government left to better match up with the majority of the population.
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Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)Polls are somewhat meaningless at this point in the game. There is too long a timespan between now and the actual primary dispite all the DU hoopla.
Right now lets all celebrate what we can. Hooray foe my guy, hooray for yours.
72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)Which makes one wonder why you felt compelled to share them.
Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)I just made fun of the overused word "surge".
And pointed out polls are not the total sum of the campaign.
72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)I confused you for the OP.
"surge" seems like a word that would be used a lot in bad erotica, like "turgid" or "thrust".
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)pouring into her Super Pacs,
The Corp media hiding info that would favor Bernie.
All those big donations coming from her Wall St friends.
The DNC doing everything they can to keep ANYONE from challenging her.
Smear machines funded by Dark Money going after Bernie every day.
Huge name recognition which few candidates ever have.
Bernie has none of those things, all he has are the PEOPLE.
WHY has she lost so much support despite all that do you think?
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)worth.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)When you're topping the market, all advertising does is burn money and keep your head above water.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)She is running a shell game.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)And this is a slow Berner campaign.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Relative change between two at +2 for Samders is within the margin of error of the Poll and indicates no verifiable relative movement.
kenn3d
(486 posts)Clinton's 3pt rise from 42 to 45 is a 7% improvement
Sanders' 5pt rise from 24 to 29 is a 21% improvement.
So Sanders' gained 3 times more than Clinton did with this poll.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Totally crushing both Sanders and Clinton.
He went form * to 1%.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)nt
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts). . . instead of letting the media tell them who "won."
DrBulldog
(841 posts)If Bernie is nominated, a large fraction of the 75,000,000 millennials will show up to overwhelmingly vote for him in an electoral landslide and carry the Democrat down-tickets everywhere, providing a good chance of recovering one or more houses of Congress for the Democrats so that some major fixes can be made.
If Hillary is nominated, we will again see the millennials AGAIN massively boycott the general election, and Congress will end up worse than ever, while Hillary - if she had survived a close election - sits on her entitled butt for four years as the world's most famous figurehead.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)We have not had this kind of down ticket opportunity in quite a few decades ....
That would not be the case were the nominee Mrs. Same Ole Same Ole ...
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)into office on Bernie's coattails. There are a lot of down ballot socialists aren't there?
brooklynite
(94,501 posts)Diskotec
(23 posts)Your "fresh batch" omitted a poll in which Hillary s lead increased by 5%.
brooklynite
(94,501 posts)nationwide, which is up from 42% last month. Bernie Sanders gets 21%, which is basically unchanged
from his 20% support in September. Undeclared candidate Joe Biden has 17% support, down from 22%
last month. Jim Webb and Larry Lessig each get 1%, while Martin OMalley and Lincoln Chafee each
earn less than 1%.
http://www.monmouth.edu/assets/0/32212254770/32212254991/32212254992/32212254994/32212254995/30064771087/4f03d197-5cae-42a6-b47a-0c1a4aeb7b6f.pdf
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