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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 06:43 PM Oct 2015

Bernie Sanders Is Surging In A Fresh Batch Of New Polls

US Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont) continues to rise in the polls.

A new CNN/ORC poll released Monday showed Sanders with the biggest leap among any candidate in the 2016 field. And a new poll in the first-in-the-nation primary state of New Hampshire found him slightly expanding his lead there over former US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

In Monday's CNN poll, Sanders garnered 29% support nationally, up 5% from a similar CNN poll released a month ago.

That still put him far behind Clinton, who grabbed 45% of national Democratic primary voters. Clinton, the Democratic presidential front-runner, has seen support rebound among Democratic voters since bottoming out at 37% in a similar CNN poll released in early September. She moved up to 42% in mid-September, meaning she rose three points in Monday's poll.

And in New Hampshire, a new Franklin Pierce University/Boston Herald poll found Sanders with an eight-point lead over Clinton in the state. That was up a point from the last FPU/Boston Herald poll, and his lead increases to 10 points without Vice President Joe Biden in the survey.

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http://www.businessinsider.com/polls-bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-new-hampshire-2015-10

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Bernie Sanders Is Surging In A Fresh Batch Of New Polls (Original Post) Purveyor Oct 2015 OP
So, Bernie is only ahead in one poll out of two. Surging is not the word riversedge Oct 2015 #1
Advancing? Marching? Half-Century Man Oct 2015 #2
Or Deficit Reducing! floriduck Oct 2015 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #23
I was referring to his growing popularity in the public. Half-Century Man Oct 2015 #24
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #25
As they did in 2008 Half-Century Man Oct 2015 #28
Presumably the polls in your OP are meaningless as well 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #29
I posted poll results? Half-Century Man Oct 2015 #30
My apology 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #31
Why is Hillary, who has everything possible going for her, all that Dark Money sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #4
The question answers itself. Go Bernie! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #5
I heard today that her campaign is outspending Bernie 4:1. I don't think she's getting her money's Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #8
That's the problem with advertising Scootaloo Oct 2015 #16
AND she is outspending him 4:1 AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #12
I love your GIF Scootaloo Oct 2015 #17
LOL, of course you wouldn't. nt Logical Oct 2015 #10
Bernie is like the Hitchcock of politics... Kalidurga Oct 2015 #3
In this Poll, scientific one, Clinton up 3 and Sanders up 5...is marginally positive for both. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #6
Fun with numbers kenn3d Oct 2015 #7
Ridiculous claim... By that measure Webb had an infinity improvement. Thor_MN Oct 2015 #11
Or, Sanders gained an astonishing 200% on Clinton, plus or minus 450%! Impressive! Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #13
Blibbity Bloobitty Blobbitty bloo AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #21
I guess they were people who watched the debate and then exhibited their own judgment Jack Rabbit Oct 2015 #9
A HUGE new reason to nominate Bernie - and, in itself, it has nothing to do with the issues. DrBulldog Oct 2015 #15
Exactly ... Trajan Oct 2015 #26
For sure, All those down ballot Socialists will be swept redstateblues Oct 2015 #27
Quoting your OP: "That still put him far behind Clinton" brooklynite Oct 2015 #18
A 1% margin increase is barely a "surge ” in NH. And you omitted Monmouth Diskotec Oct 2015 #19
For completeness, perhaps we should mention the Monmouth University poll? brooklynite Oct 2015 #20
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #22

riversedge

(70,186 posts)
1. So, Bernie is only ahead in one poll out of two. Surging is not the word
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 06:51 PM
Oct 2015

I would use (i realize it is the from the article)

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
2. Advancing? Marching?
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 07:03 PM
Oct 2015

Which verb seems appropriate to describe his change of status?
I think the word "surge" has been overused. Perhaps a thesaurus is in order for the punditry.

Being a Bernie supporter, I kind of like "steadily advancing", but "for now" could be added to keep the peace.

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Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
24. I was referring to his growing popularity in the public.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:37 AM
Oct 2015

Last edited Tue Oct 20, 2015, 01:01 PM - Edit history (1)

The one where he went from a virtual unknown to be a serious challenger to the carefully crafted candidate who has been in center stage nationally for 20(+) years.

Not recognizing that is a bit like saying global warming isn't real because it was cold today.

I do not think badly of Ms. Clinton. I simply do not think she will be much of an agent of change as I think we need. Moving the culture left is not as important as moving the government left to better match up with the majority of the population.

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Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
28. As they did in 2008
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 01:07 PM
Oct 2015

Polls are somewhat meaningless at this point in the game. There is too long a timespan between now and the actual primary dispite all the DU hoopla.
Right now lets all celebrate what we can. Hooray foe my guy, hooray for yours.

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
29. Presumably the polls in your OP are meaningless as well
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 02:58 PM
Oct 2015

Which makes one wonder why you felt compelled to share them.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
30. I posted poll results?
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 03:03 PM
Oct 2015

I just made fun of the overused word "surge".

And pointed out polls are not the total sum of the campaign.

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
31. My apology
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 04:43 PM
Oct 2015

I confused you for the OP.


"surge" seems like a word that would be used a lot in bad erotica, like "turgid" or "thrust".

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
4. Why is Hillary, who has everything possible going for her, all that Dark Money
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 07:13 PM
Oct 2015

pouring into her Super Pacs,

The Corp media hiding info that would favor Bernie.

All those big donations coming from her Wall St friends.

The DNC doing everything they can to keep ANYONE from challenging her.

Smear machines funded by Dark Money going after Bernie every day.

Huge name recognition which few candidates ever have.

Bernie has none of those things, all he has are the PEOPLE.

WHY has she lost so much support despite all that do you think?

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
8. I heard today that her campaign is outspending Bernie 4:1. I don't think she's getting her money's
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 08:33 PM
Oct 2015

worth.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
16. That's the problem with advertising
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 09:44 PM
Oct 2015

When you're topping the market, all advertising does is burn money and keep your head above water.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
6. In this Poll, scientific one, Clinton up 3 and Sanders up 5...is marginally positive for both.
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 07:21 PM
Oct 2015

Relative change between two at +2 for Samders is within the margin of error of the Poll and indicates no verifiable relative movement.

kenn3d

(486 posts)
7. Fun with numbers
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 07:41 PM
Oct 2015
"Relative change between two at +2 for Samders is within the margin of error of the Poll and indicates no verifiable relative movement."

Clinton's 3pt rise from 42 to 45 is a 7% improvement
Sanders' 5pt rise from 24 to 29 is a 21% improvement.

So Sanders' gained 3 times more than Clinton did with this poll.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
11. Ridiculous claim... By that measure Webb had an infinity improvement.
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 08:45 PM
Oct 2015

Totally crushing both Sanders and Clinton.

He went form * to 1%.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
9. I guess they were people who watched the debate and then exhibited their own judgment
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 08:37 PM
Oct 2015

. . . instead of letting the media tell them who "won."

 

DrBulldog

(841 posts)
15. A HUGE new reason to nominate Bernie - and, in itself, it has nothing to do with the issues.
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 09:32 PM
Oct 2015

If Bernie is nominated, a large fraction of the 75,000,000 millennials will show up to overwhelmingly vote for him in an electoral landslide and carry the Democrat down-tickets everywhere, providing a good chance of recovering one or more houses of Congress for the Democrats so that some major fixes can be made.

If Hillary is nominated, we will again see the millennials AGAIN massively boycott the general election, and Congress will end up worse than ever, while Hillary - if she had survived a close election - sits on her entitled butt for four years as the world's most famous figurehead.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
26. Exactly ...
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 12:46 PM
Oct 2015

We have not had this kind of down ticket opportunity in quite a few decades ....

That would not be the case were the nominee Mrs. Same Ole Same Ole ...

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
27. For sure, All those down ballot Socialists will be swept
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 01:06 PM
Oct 2015

into office on Bernie's coattails. There are a lot of down ballot socialists aren't there?

 

Diskotec

(23 posts)
19. A 1% margin increase is barely a "surge ” in NH. And you omitted Monmouth
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 09:50 PM
Oct 2015

Your "fresh batch" omitted a poll in which Hillary s lead increased by 5%.

brooklynite

(94,501 posts)
20. For completeness, perhaps we should mention the Monmouth University poll?
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 09:51 PM
Oct 2015
Hillary Clinton currently has the support of 48% of Democrats and Democratic-leaning voters
nationwide, which is up from 42% last month. Bernie Sanders gets 21%, which is basically unchanged
from his 20% support in September. Undeclared candidate Joe Biden has 17% support, down from 22%
last month. Jim Webb and Larry Lessig each get 1%, while Martin O’Malley and Lincoln Chafee each
earn less than 1%.

http://www.monmouth.edu/assets/0/32212254770/32212254991/32212254992/32212254994/32212254995/30064771087/4f03d197-5cae-42a6-b47a-0c1a4aeb7b6f.pdf

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