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Armstead

(47,803 posts)
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 09:24 AM Oct 2015

I'll support Hillary if she's the nominee. But it'll be real hard to give a damn beyond dread of GOP

The only damn I'll really give is that ever-present dread of the GOP taking over. So I'll root for her to beat the GOP's nominated bully.

But beyond that? Screw it.

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I'll support Hillary if she's the nominee. But it'll be real hard to give a damn beyond dread of GOP (Original Post) Armstead Oct 2015 OP
intention enid602 Oct 2015 #1
The effort the left libertarian third way baloney wagon is supporting Hillary seems to indicate Todays_Illusion Oct 2015 #2
It is disurbing to hear conservatism being passed off as "progressive" Democrat Armstead Oct 2015 #5
I don't trust that word, progressive, and ps haveyou been here long? Has it always been so Todays_Illusion Oct 2015 #18
Since 2002 (or 3) Armstead Oct 2015 #19
It's progressive if Hillary is for it. JRLeft Oct 2015 #20
Supreme Court & Not Dismantling Obama's Legacy firebrand80 Oct 2015 #3
I wish I could feel better about the possibility... TDale313 Oct 2015 #4
You must have a far stronger stomach than I do 99Forever Oct 2015 #6
Well 8 years of Trump, Bush, Carson or any of 'em is like Pepto Bismol Armstead Oct 2015 #7
I hear you. 99Forever Oct 2015 #12
I hear you too Armstead Oct 2015 #13
Republicans and corporate democrats continue to move the country further to the right, JRLeft Oct 2015 #16
It's no longer an option for me either. liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #11
I don't blame you for not feeling the Clinton charm. randome Oct 2015 #8
I remember that "lives to live" part every day Armstead Oct 2015 #9
Same here BUT MuseRider Oct 2015 #10
Ditto... Hepburn Oct 2015 #14
Unless the GOP nominates a goofball you may be correct Armstead Oct 2015 #15
The only way ctsnowman Oct 2015 #17

Todays_Illusion

(1,209 posts)
2. The effort the left libertarian third way baloney wagon is supporting Hillary seems to indicate
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 09:35 AM
Oct 2015

she is not going to be much better than another Republican with a Democratic name, like Capitulating Bill Clinton.

Todays_Illusion

(1,209 posts)
18. I don't trust that word, progressive, and ps haveyou been here long? Has it always been so
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:40 PM
Oct 2015

Libertarian? I signed in only a couple of years ago and was shocked that a site calling itself Democratic was so completely libertarian controlled, operating under the label, progressive.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
19. Since 2002 (or 3)
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 12:22 AM
Oct 2015

It's always been a feisty place with competing in philosophy. It tends to get more heated up around primary and election time.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
20. It's progressive if Hillary is for it.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 12:28 AM
Oct 2015

(Shake my head) Alot of posters have no idea what a progressive is.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
4. I wish I could feel better about the possibility...
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 09:39 AM
Oct 2015

Of Hillary getting the nomination. I was a Clinton supporter back in the day- in fact, he was the first President I voted for and volunteered for. And Goddess knows I'd love to see our first female President. And she's certainly brilliant and accomplished. But I look at what's happening to our country and I genuinely despair at the idea of us continuing the status quo- and that's what we'll get with her. And her supporters are making it harder and harder every day to envision coming together once the primaries are over.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
6. You must have a far stronger stomach than I do
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 09:52 AM
Oct 2015

Holding my nose while I vote, is no longer an option for me.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
7. Well 8 years of Trump, Bush, Carson or any of 'em is like Pepto Bismol
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 09:54 AM
Oct 2015

Clinton will be subtly awful. Any of the GOPers will be "in your face" abusive.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
13. I hear you too
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:31 AM
Oct 2015

I'm 63, seen the "settling" strategy being trotted out every election for decades. This, alas, is just the latest iteration.

But also seen the GOP get worse and worse. In part I blame the Demoicrats for that becaue we have "settled" too often rather than actually taking it to them. But still in all, I guess I still have to choose awful over awfuller.



 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
16. Republicans and corporate democrats continue to move the country further to the right,
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 11:06 AM
Oct 2015

despite the country's leftward lean.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
8. I don't blame you for not feeling the Clinton charm.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:00 AM
Oct 2015

I'd point out, though, that it isn't the end of the world and we all have lives to lead outside the political realm.
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Armstead

(47,803 posts)
9. I remember that "lives to live" part every day
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:04 AM
Oct 2015

But I'm also one of those unfortunate people for whom public issues feel personal too. My own life could be peaches and cream, and the bigger picture will still bug me on a visceral level. Over the years I've learned to turn it off and on better, but...

(I'm guessing most DUers are the same way.)

MuseRider

(34,105 posts)
10. Same here BUT
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:16 AM
Oct 2015

one exception that has me saying I will vote for her (although daily I say to myself no way) SCOTUS. As a woman I do trust her to not nominate someone who will further erode women's rights. I hope that trust is not misplaced, it is the one issue I actually do trust her with. I hope she will consider women in all issues but the interview with Warren about the bankruptcy bill stopped me short.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
15. Unless the GOP nominates a goofball you may be correct
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:38 AM
Oct 2015

People want change. For the non-partisans, if its a GOP status quo politician vs a Democratic status quo politician, I think the instinct for change will favor the GOP

ctsnowman

(1,903 posts)
17. The only way
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 11:11 AM
Oct 2015

I won't vote for her is if the superdelegates go against the people's vote in the primary.

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