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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 11:55 AM Oct 2015

The polls have spoken. Hillary won the debate.

Turns out that the pundits were right and the online polls were wrong. There are now 4 post-debate scientific polls.

NBC-WSJ 49-29 (+21)
ABC-WaPo 54-23 (+31)
Monmouth 48-21 (+27)
CNN/ORC 45-29 (+16)

HRC is ahead by an average of 23.5 points in these polls.

In the four last polls before the debate, according to RCP, her lead averaged 19.25, an improvement of 4.25.

The last pre-debate polls by these same pollsters had leads of 7 (NBC-WSJ), 20 (Monmouth), 18 (ABC-WaPo) and 18 (CNN/ORC), for an average of 15.75, and an improvement of 7.75.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html#polls

The Hillary rebound and Bernie plateau are now clearly visible even in the default HuffPo chart that Bernie fans like so much because it starts way back in 2013 which makes the earlier Bernie surge look so steep.

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The polls have spoken. Hillary won the debate. (Original Post) DanTex Oct 2015 OP
Don't forget NH-PPP Agschmid Oct 2015 #1
Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #2
Um? Agschmid Oct 2015 #3
That's pretty insulting, really. MineralMan Oct 2015 #11
Yup. Agschmid Oct 2015 #14
I used to believe homophobia was endemic to the right but alas I was wrong or maybe not. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #17
That was a very pleasant surprise. riversedge Oct 2015 #15
Yes, I'm sure there will be ups and downs. Agschmid Oct 2015 #16
Hillary Clinton won the debate Gothmog Oct 2015 #4
But Google Analytics said otherwise! StrongBad Oct 2015 #5
A teachable moment in debate performances. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #6
Yup. Agschmid Oct 2015 #7
And America lost. Dawgs Oct 2015 #8
People got upset when I said a few weeks ago that Sanders had plateaued Gman Oct 2015 #9
Well aren't you special. HERVEPA Oct 2015 #10
Another snarky response? MineralMan Oct 2015 #12
K & R SunSeeker Oct 2015 #13
Kick. Agschmid Oct 2015 #18

Response to Agschmid (Reply #1)

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
11. That's pretty insulting, really.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 12:40 PM
Oct 2015

The OP is about polling numbers, but your implication is about something altogether different, it seems to me. Clearly, Clinton's polling has improved. Is it a new trend? There's no way to tell without more time passing, but people are noticing that her numbers are better following the debate.

Nobody needs to "get a room." This is a room, and we're all in it together. Polling information is just that - information. What it means is open for debate, but it is information.

I see no reason to insult people for bringing information to the table for discussion. But, maybe I'm misunderstanding your comment. If so, I'm listening...

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
17. I used to believe homophobia was endemic to the right but alas I was wrong or maybe not.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 06:19 PM
Oct 2015

I used to believe homophobia was endemic to the right but alas I was wrong or maybe not.



HERVEPA This message was hidden by Jury decision. Hide
2. How about you two get a room

A Jury voted 4-3 to hide this post on Tue Oct 20, 2015, 12:43 PM. Reason: This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.



This should have been a 7-0 hide, disgusting!!!

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
16. Yes, I'm sure there will be ups and downs.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 06:16 PM
Oct 2015

I'm comfortable with that, it's all part of the process, but it's nice to have a good day.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
6. A teachable moment in debate performances.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 12:04 PM
Oct 2015

It is a skill very few of us posses. All of our candidates did quite well. The difference between the republicans and democrats debates is night and day. Really made me proud to be a democrat.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
9. People got upset when I said a few weeks ago that Sanders had plateaued
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 12:21 PM
Oct 2015

And I knew time would prove me right b

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
12. Another snarky response?
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 12:43 PM
Oct 2015

Why? Poll results are just numbers. The numbers are in the OP. They may not meet with your approval, but there they are. Clinton supporters are pleased with those numbers. Why should they not be, and why should they not discuss them in a DU thread?


On edit: I see that your previous reply was hidden and that you're now on a time-out, so I won't expect a reply. It's too bad that your voice on DU is silenced for a while.

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