D. Wasserman-Schultz serves up half a loaf to Black Lives Matter activists -

[bullwinkle428]

in the form of a candidates' forum, as opposed to the debate that they were asking for.

The Democratic National Committee on Wednesday gave its blessing to two of the most prominent activist groups associated with the Black Lives Matter protest movement — the #BlackLivesMatter network and Campaign Zero — to host a presidential town hall focused on issues of racial justice, but stood firm in its stance that there will be no additional debates on the 2016 campaign schedule.

...

The letters come one day after organizers with the #BlackLivesMatter network — an activist collective with the same name often applied to the broader protest movement — called on the DNC to sanction an additional debate themed around issues of racial justice, which was only referenced once during the CNN presidential debate in Las Vegas earlier this month.

In an interview on Wednesday, Black Lives Matter organizer Elle Hearns said the umbrella group had yet to decide if it would proceed with an attempt to host a town hall, and said that she was still personally disappointed that the DNC will not sanction an additional debate.

"Their response to our request is unsatisfactory,' Hearns said, and added that it is irresponsible for the Democratic National Committee to host so few debates. "Debbie Wasserman Schultz should be more mindful of her responsibility not only to the DNC, but to the American people."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/10/21/dnc-gives-blessing-to-black-lives-matter-presidential-town-hall-but-wont-add-debate/

[restorefreedom]

1. dws is mindful to her career trajectory and the status quo. nt

[Baitball Blogger]

15. I would say, what kind of career is she going to have after this?

Then it comes to me: private sector with all the best bonuses.

[Scuba]

17. She'll have a spot on Fox Noise, listed as a "Democrat Strategist."

It'll be her job to weakly endorse Democratic candidates while explaining why Social Security and Medicare must be "reformed."

[Ed Suspicious]

20. Truer words . . .

[Hortensis]

28. Violence and injustice against Blacks were bad when Obama was elected.

After we elected our first black president, it actually has become much worse as hostile conservatives have been acting out their anger against minorities, but especially his fellow Blacks, across our entire country.

For enemies of the Democratic Party to exploit those tragedies at DU by using them as a sleazy tool against the only party that represents Black interests at all is, IMO, every bit as contemptible as the cynical exploitation of the deaths at Benghazi by enemies of the Democratic Party elsewhere.

Maybe more so. After all, the scumbags in Congress are using those deaths to accomplish political goals that have nothing to do with embassy personnel. Here enemies are using Black deaths as mud to be slung against the very party most politically active Blacks belong to.

[Scuba]

40. Care to link to a post here on DU that illustrates what you're saying?

Of is one of those "any criticism of Democrats or the Democratic Party is bad" comments?

[Hortensis]

41. Just go read Drudge, Scuba. You'll enjoy it a lot more.

[Scuba]

44. Drudge is not DU. To smear DU members for things said on Drudge ...

... is contemptible. Shame on you.

[Hortensis]

45. Oh, but he hates "DWS" and "Democrats" and would see no problem at all in

using the deaths of young black people to smear her. If it has an audience -- use it!

My whole point IS shameful behavior, BTW.

[Scuba]

47. That's really lame. Criticizing DWS for her right-wing tendencies is not "using the deaths ...

... of young black people to smear her."

Since she supports Republicans, and Republican-like "Democrats", and your loyalty to the Democratic Party seems fierce, I find it sad that you would attempt to support her with such a lame argument. Better luck next time.

[Hortensis]

48. "Wasserman-Schultz serves up half a loaf to Black Lives Matter activists"

The pack grabbed that and ran with it, and "that" is not about Black lives mattering or otherwise.

"dws is mindful to her career trajectory and the status quo"
" I would say, what kind of career is she going to have after this? Then it comes to me: private sector with all the best bonuses."
"She'll have a spot on Fox Noise, listed as a "Democrat Strategist." (This is YOU again.)
"Truer words..."
"yup. i predict pr person for a vulture capitalist. perfect for her."
"She will ABSOLUTELY be paid ridiculous amounts."
"DWS has a constituency of one - Hillary Clinton"

There were others of the same ilk, but after the above a few others arrived and quietly discussed BLM and the event among themselves.

[Scuba]

50. Here's where you're confused. The OP is about DWS, not BLM.

It is about her snub of BLM, and how that's consistent with her other right-wing behaviors.

[Hortensis]

51. Case made. Yet again. Goodbye, Scuba.

[Scuba]

52. Goodbye Hortensis. I hope your day gets better.

[Hortensis]

54. Thanks, Scuba. You too. The hearings seem to be going okay.

I'm catching pieces as I run around packing to head for Florida for the winter. I'd much rather shove the pet sedatives I just wrapped in cheese down Rep. Pompeo's throat. Back to work.

[artislife]

35. Heh! nt

[Enthusiast]

59. +100%!

[restorefreedom]

30. yup. i predict pr person for a vulture capitalist. perfect for her. nt

[zentrum]

31. Cabinet appointment

….for Hillary. I think that's been her angle all along.

[Baitball Blogger]

33. The perception would look horrible, wouldn't it?

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But, since when have perceptions been a problem in our crony capitalist society?

Nevah!

[zentrum]

56. Evah!

They really don't care.

But also, I don't think DWS thought she'd buzzsaw into so much hostility. Really, at the beginning of the primary both of them just thought it was going to be a cake walk for HRC.

[Baitball Blogger]

57. What I really think, is that they underestimated how much the past would be dissected and examined.

The discontent in this country is growing, and people have good reasons to be upset about the graft that is politically generated.

[stillwaiting]

32. She will ABSOLUTELY be paid ridiculous amounts.

It must be this way for the system to continue to function as reliably for the financial elite.

Messages will continue to be sent. Those that play the game get one outcome, and it's very financially rewarding. They also get to avoid criminal proceedings and consequences almost all of the time (very rare exceptions to the contrary). That's the message that's been sent out for the past few decades, and it's a message that is loudly and clearly received by those with highly self-centered ambitions.

[virtualobserver]

2. she will give in

the candidates will all endorse BLM's position on this.

[randys1]

3. Dear god is this AMAZING or what. It was just a few months ago people right HERE at DU were

mad as hell at BLM for being, well I wont say uppity but that was the vibe I got from them

Look at them now, HELL YES!!!

DNC is ANSWERABLE to them and that is GREAT

[virtualobserver]

4. I think that we should have both, a debate AND a town hall.

Real questions from real people..........merely letting the MSM relay the Republican "gotcha" questions gets tiresome.

[randys1]

5. Oh yeah, multiple of multiples. But this BLM stuff is amazing.

[virtualobserver]

8. it is amazing....and I meant specifically a BLM debate and a BLM town hall....

not generally....I don't expect Debbie Wasserman Schultz to bend anywhere else.

on this she will.

[daleanime]

6. We're on a pace to lose over 1,100 people....

at the hands of police and jails this year. I would think that deserves at least a few hours of open and honest discussion. This 'you can have a forum, but not a debate' is rather insulting.

[JustAnotherGen]

9. As well as

A much higher incidence of death by breast cancer:

http://www.bwhi.org/issues-and-resources/black-women-and-breast-cancer/

Nothing speaks more clearly to the shocking breast cancer health disparities than the fact that Black women are less likely than white women to get breast cancer, yet have a higher breast cancer death rate. Breast cancer is the most commonly diagnosed cancer among Black women and in 2010, the CDC reported that breast cancer was the leading cause of cancer death for Black women aged 45--64 years. What was most alarming in this CDC report was that the breast cancer death rate for women aged 45--64 years was 60% higher for Black women than white women (56.8 and 35.6 deaths per 100,000, respectively). (CDC: National Vital Statistics System: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss.htm)

Also -our babies are more likely to die . . .
Infant Mortality and African Americans

African Americans have 2.2 times the infant mortality rate as non-Hispanic whites. They are 3.5 times as likely to die as infants due to complications related to low birthweight as compared to non-Hispanic white infants.
•African Americans had almost twice the sudden infant death syndrome mortality rate as non-Hispanic whites, in 2013.
•African American mothers were 2.3 times more likely than non-Hispanic white mothers to begin prenatal care in the 3rd trimester, or not receive prenatal care at all.

Infant Mortality and African Americans

African Americans have 2.2 times the infant mortality rate as non-Hispanic whites. They are 3.5 times as likely to die as infants due to complications related to low birthweight as compared to non-Hispanic white infants.
•African Americans had almost twice the sudden infant death syndrome mortality rate as non-Hispanic whites, in 2013.
•African American mothers were 2.3 times more likely than non-Hispanic white mothers to begin prenatal care in the 3rd trimester, or not receive prenatal care at all.

Our lives matter - we will not be ignored by this country anymore.

[artislife]

36. This country couldn't be

more adept at the genocide of the African American community if it tried.

It is criminal.

[Hortensis]

14. I disagree. Black and other minority issues will be discussed at all 5 debates.

A televised forum that is actually devoted exclusively to Black issues is anything but an insult, and Black Lives Matter deserves to be recognized and honored for its achievement in making it happen.

Note that because no other minority group has matched the efforts and successes of Black activists, no other will have its own forum. Maybe BLM will be responsible enough to mention others at this one.

Though it has been a terribly needed advance, the new coverage of murders of Blacks has sucked away what little attention MIGHT (or might not) have been given to outrages suffered by others in much the same way Trump has sucked attention away from other candidates.

[Number23]

53. I'm not sure that I understand. Why is the coverage of black murders at the hands of police

"sucking away" attention that could be given to other minority issues?

[Broward]

7. DWS has a constituency of one - Hillary Clinton.

[Baitball Blogger]

13. Thread winner.

LOL!

[Enthusiast]

60. +1

[840high]

29. Bingo!

[artislife]

38. Yup nt

[Hortensis]

10. Yes, well, as a woman I demand 5 more debates focused on women's issues.

That demand is proportional to the relative size of our population -- which notably includes all groups in America except most corporate boards of directors and the GOP's presidential lineup (Fiorina's not a real candidate, just a token female brought along so they'd have a token female).

If Wasserman Schultz refuses, that will be PROOF she's in JP Morgan's pocket.

[NCTraveler]

11. I'm glad you are on board now...

and no longer trying to dismiss blm activists as being right wingers. I respect the change. Thanks.

[Broward]

18. Are you on board for another debate?

[NCTraveler]

19. If another debate is put on the schedule I wouldn't be opposed.

I have stated that over and over again. I also think six debates is enough. There is no simple exact number that is best for the process. Each candidate is doing a great job promoting their positions every single day across the country. That includes discussing social justice on almost a daily basis.

[bullwinkle428]

26. If you could link to a post where I accused BLM activists of being right-wingers,

I'm sure the entire board would like to see it.

[NCTraveler]

37. Most peoploe on this board.....

Most people on this board don't deny the courageous actions of Marissa. Not one single person denies that her courage and willingness to stand up and fight, putting herself at great risk as yells of "taze her" can be heard from the crowd, was a huge springboard for BLM and the social justice movement in this election. She completely changed the stump speech of Sanders and increased the conversation among all of our candidates.

Are you saying you never made this quote about her?

"Looks like Marissa is the new "backwards B" girl!" bullwinkle428

Check this out so you can learn about who you called "the new backwards B girl."

And yes, there are other posts out there where you are saying you aren't surprised she is a right winger all because of a button that was seen in a picture taken years earlier. "Backwards B Girl" Seriously?

Edit to take out two absolute words. There are no absolutes with respect to this topic considering the recent "Stockholm" comments.

[bullwinkle428]

42. I made that comment about Marissa in the wake of the revelation that she

was a Sarah Palin supporter in the 2008 campaign, along with her own self-description as a "radical Christian".

I never made a sweeping comment about the movement as a whole.

[NCTraveler]

43. Nope. You were dismissing one of the major actors in the movement....

in a manner to try to discredit her actions. Some of the most influential recent actions of the movement itself. "Backwards B Girl" my ass.

To be very clear. You called the courageous woman in the video above and one of the most influential people in the movement during this cycle a "Backwards B Girl."

[Baitball Blogger]

12. Democratic leadership's method of herding cats is not very democratic.

Just saying.

[Luminous Animal]

16. Deray from Campaign Zero prefers a forum.

He tweeted these 2 days ago.

deray mckesson ‏@deray Oct 20

Since the meeting w/ Bernie, we've been working to see if there's a possibility of a Town Hall/Forum at some point. I think it may happen.

deray mckesson ‏@deray Oct 20

I think a presidential Town Hall/Forum closer to the SC primary would be a better format re: race than a debate -- q's from the audience.

deray mckesson ‏@deray Oct 20

After meeting w/ some of the presidential candidates, I'm interested in seeing if we can host a Town Hall/Forum in Feb. w/ all candidates.

He also wants to include Rebulicans and third party candidates.

[MisterP]

21. yeah--half loaf, half brick

[AgingAmerican]

22. She figures she has them in the bag

So she can just discount them.

[LovingA2andMI]

24. Exactly....

[Prism]

23. Good, but with some reservations

I just don't want institutionalized bigotry to be considered separate and apart from other issues. Any attempt to tackle these problems will require a holistic approach from just about every angle. Nearly every issue we need to fix in this country - economic, social, education, health care, immigration, discrimination, housing - has a strong component of institutionalized discrimination against minorities and women.

I don't want BLM or other issues of institutionalized bigotry to become a box to be checked off by candidates. I want them to live and speak to the solutions in every fora.

[randome]

25. Well said.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]You have to play the game to find out why you're playing the game. -Existenz[/center][/font][hr]

[Scuba]

27. +1

[lark]

34. DWS cares about 3 things

1 - Herself
2 - Getting her Repug friends in Miami re-elected over any Dem running against them
3 - AIPAC

[Uncle Joe]

39. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, bullwinkle.

[blackspade]

46. Turn the screws on DWS!

A debate on social justice topics would be refreshing.

[ChiciB1]

49. DWS Is A Piece Of S--t! I Believe NOTHING That Comes

out of her mouth is worth reading or reporting. I won't even begin the list of negatives I could say about her! She's from my state and I could NEVER understand how she got to be DNC Chair, but NOW I CLEARLY know!

BLESSINGS?? OMG, that word alone is a slap in the face!

[bravenak]

55. Better than we've ever gotten. Keep pushing and we get more.

[davidn3600]

58. Why should Debbie serve a full loaf?

She knows African-Americans aren't going to vote for Donald Trump.