Sanders Advisor: 'If Bernie's going to beat Clinton it's because people don't want a 3rd Obama term'

[riversedge]

So, what does this comment mean??



http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/26/1440084/-Sanders-Advisor-If-Bernie-s-going-to-beat-Clinton-it-s-because-people-don-t-want-a-3rd-Obama-term


Mon Oct 26, 2015 at 01:14 PM PDT
Sanders Advisor: 'If Bernie's going to beat Clinton it's because people don't want a 3rd Obama term'

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'If Bernie's going to beat Clinton it's bc people don't want a 3rd Obama term.' -- Sanders strategist Tad Devine https://soundcloud.com/bostonherald/tad-devine-joins-herald-drive …



This is a gaffe. This is the second time a Sanders connected person has made this type of statement. In August, the Executive Director of NNU, which has endorsed Sanders, said:

[orpupilofnature57]

1. It's because they want to stop the robbing of their Democracy, and see through demagoguery .

[Ed Suspicious]

3. They like the socially liberal Obama. They just dislike the economically conservative one.

[Ed Suspicious]

12. Fair enough.

[MrWendel]

4. Do they want their country back too?

[NurseJackie]

13. Bingo.

[randys1]

15. Makes one wonder.

[think]

16. From Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, JP Morgan, etc? Yes!

[Fawke Em]

57. Bullshit.

Low blow and DUMB.

I spend most of my time talking with PoC. Yeah, I'm white, but I'm raising a half PoC son, so don't give me that "you don't understand" crap. I do. I worry for my son in a way I would have never worried about myself.

[MrWendel]

64. I could care less...

if you raise a PoC or you talk with PoC or you have a friend who is PoC. The thread is about Bernie not wanting a 3rd term. Does that mean what? Do people "Want their country back from him? The Banks? Foreign Policy? That's open to interpretation.
Please clarify for me, from a guy who wanted to primary Obama. What exactly is it about an Obama's America (given to Congress he and others will have to work with), does he think is so disastrous and he needs to change so badly?

[orpupilofnature57]

66. Your PoC son will be the biggest Victim in the NWO being perfected by the ilk of Hillary .

[JaneyVee]

2. 75% of Dems want next prez to continue and expand Obama policies.

I guess the other 25% are Bernie's poll numbers.

[Ed Suspicious]

9. 25 percent love bernie, 10 percent love Hillary, the remaining haven't given it much thought, but

feel pretty comfortable with the devil they know. I can't wait for a time when they know Bernie.

[1StrongBlackMan]

30. Where do you get your numbers? n/t

[Armstead]

14. I think the key word is expand...as in move forward, advance

Get to the root of problems.

Which is basically what Sanders is saying.

That would be preferable than a futile effort to revive the shiny surface of the 1990's.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

29. Tad Devine did a great job running President Gore's campaign.

eom

[1StrongBlackMan]

31. And wasn't he a Senior Advisor on Mondale's campaign, also? n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

39. Here's his "resume"

eom

[bravenak]

42. Thank you!

[FloridaBlues]

47. Funny and so true his basic ceiling

[zappaman]

5. I would vote for Obama again in a heartbeat.

[portlander23]

6. How is that a gaffe?

[riversedge]

8. The author of the OP is saying that--I did not.

[portlander23]

10. Fair point

[cantbeserious]

7. Roger That - Say No To The DNC DWS DLC Third-Way Establishment

eom

[NCTraveler]

17. I think there is a lot of truth to that.

I also think Sanders and some of his supporters do respect Obama and the job he has done. It isn't as absolute as is seems here sometimes. I believe building off the success of Obama will win the day. Sanders can't change any verbiage at this point so that mantle will go to Hillary.

[1StrongBlackMan]

45. Ya know? Now that I think about that ... It is an absolutely true statement ...

the problem is the "IF" part, and that the current polling suggests people are speaking to that "IF", in both, President Obama's numbers and HRC's numbers.

[elana i am]

18. no, it's anything but a gaffe.

we're done with centerist, corporatist third way dinos. just done.

i said it before, i'll say it again. april 30th, 2015 a paradigm shift happened. something better came along that has rendered clinton, obama, pretty much the entirety of the dem congress wholly inadequate and second rate.

why? because i have standards.

see, sanders can't even claim 100% progressive cred, but he's in a different universe than any other dems, so if they want my money and my votes in the future there damn well better be a shit ton of endorsements of him and a stampede to his left forthwith.

i'm still waiting...

[riversedge]

23. you will have a LONG wait IMHO

[Historic NY]

27. Then maybe the revolution trying to hijack the Democratic Party needs to look elsewhere.

[frylock]

55. The Democratic party was highjacked by the RW years ago.

[Historic NY]

60. So you say...

[frylock]

62. Has the party moved further to the right or to the left on key issues?

[CentralMass]

19. I think he spoke truthfully.

[Autumn]

20. I have absolutely no interest in a 3rd Obama turn.

Time for a new start for the people.

[bunnies]

21. "I'm not running for President Obama's third term" - Hillary Clinton 09/20/2015

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/09/20/hillary_clinton_im_not_running_for_bills_third_term.html

[Bread and Circus]

22. So Riversedge, is that a gaffe?

"I'm not running for Bill's third term. I'm not running for President Obama's third term".

/end thread?

[riversedge]

24. If you read the OP correctly-I did not say that. The author of the article did.

[Bread and Circus]

25. Ok fair enough. so neither is a gaffe? or both?

[arcane1]

36. Your question replies on the premise that Clinton tells the truth n/t

[artislife]

50. Pretty safe and careful

Your ability to stand firmly by what you chose to post is noted.

A page out of h's game plan book.

[JRLeft]

33. She's to the far right of on foreign policy.

[DCBob]

26. Running away from Obama is not going to work.

Especially in the primary.

[1StrongBlackMan]

34. True ...

Unfortunately, some did not learn that in 2010 and 2012.

[arcane1]

37. That's why Clinton now says she opposes the TPP, Keystone, etc?

[DCBob]

49. Disagreeing on a few issues is not running away.

I think Hillary and Obama agree on the vast majority of issues.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. I would vote for Obama in a New York minute!!!

eom

[workinclasszero]

32. It means Bernies campaign is insulting

President Obama for the millionth time.

But they can't figure out why they get no traction from base democratic party voters as they insult them just about every day.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

53. Unforced errors, very amateurish...

eom

[frylock]

56. Of the estimated 30% of registered voters that comprise the Democratic Party..

what percentage of them would you consider to be the base?

[arcane1]

35. The Status Quo is unsustainable.

That's simply a fact.

We CAN do better, and we must.

[1StrongBlackMan]

41. That's what "Improve upon and advance" means. n/t

[arcane1]

43. Good, then both candidates are in agreement n/t

[restorefreedom]

38. its not a gaffe imo

and i have no interest in a third bo term. more wars, more drones, more"ooops"'accidental bombings in countries where we don't belong, more crappy trade agreements...


no thank you

[MohRokTah]

40. That's an awful gaffe from a flailing campaign coming off a horrible week. eom

[workinclasszero]

44. It sure is lol

The Berniebros just can't help it

[FloridaBlues]

46. Very dumb thing to say he will never get the votes of the Obama voters

Obama is very popular with the democratic base the one thing sanders will not get is their votes. Statements like this will make sure of it
Dumb move

[frylock]

58. He has my vote, and I voted for Obama twice.

[Metric System]

48. Yikes!

[HassleCat]

51. People feel Obama triangulated

I don't agree with that assessment. It's way too simplistic. But they say Obama should have fought harder for single payer, gun control, an update of Glass-Stiegel, etc. I'm no worried about a third term of Obama. I'm more concerned that Clinton will not be as progressive as Obama, will be more hawkish on foreign policy, etc. In other words, eight years of Obama-Minus. I guess we'll find out.

[Agnosticsherbet]

52. If people don't want a third term for Obama/Democrats

They are more likely to elect a Republican.

Third terms for parties are very rare.

This fits the revolutionary rhetoric Sanders uses. It also means that Some of Sanders people wish to distance Sanders from the President.

[WillyT]

54. Not A Gaffe...

Many don't want a 3rd term...

We want to fix what ails us.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

59. I don't want a 3rd Obama term.

I'll take a progressive over a centrist any day.

[6chars]

61. Interesting how she is part of the Obama brand

not the Clinton brand.

[Sheepshank]

63. If Obama's numbers totally sucked

And if huge voting blocks disliked Obama, this may have been a strategy. I think the Bernie campaign are off the rails with this negative strategy in trying to insult a very well loved President.

[Skwmom]

65. Hillary: I'm not running for a third Obama term

“Clinton can say, ‘Listen, I’m my own person. As secretary of state I went against the president on some issues, and I’m not running for a third Obama term, I’m running for a first Clinton term,’” Dickinson said. “Well, a first Hillary Clinton term.”


http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/22/loyal-biden-embraces-president-obama-legacy-whats-hillarys-excuse

What Devine said "IF Bernie is going to beat Hillary it is going to be because people want not a 3rd Obama term, but a first Sander's term. They want some really fundamental change in this country. They want someone who is going to take on a rigged economy which is held in place by a corrupt system of campaign funding....."