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Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:33 PM Aug 2012

Did Todd Akin just have his macaca moment?

There is no question McCaskill faced a tough path to reelection and still might lose, even with this comment. However, back in '06, when George Allen made his macaca statement, it looked like he would easily sail to reelection...Webb eked out a very narrow victory.

It also happened in mid-August.

Is this Akin's macaca moment? Are we going to have a legitimate shot at holding this season? We hold Missouri and it's very unlikely Republicans can take the Senate.

God willing. C'mon Missouri voters, punish this asshole!

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Did Todd Akin just have his macaca moment? (Original Post) Drunken Irishman Aug 2012 OP
I think so rocktivity Aug 2012 #1
yes. he's toast. Cooley Hurd Aug 2012 #2
It may have been, but consider what's happened with "Macaca," himself. Rhiannon12866 Aug 2012 #15
yes, but I think that the OP is raising a really good question spooky3 Aug 2012 #16
Did Todd Akin just have his macaca moment? PearliePoo2 Aug 2012 #3
I'm not sure TroyD Aug 2012 #4
The last poll I saw had Obama down 1... Drunken Irishman Aug 2012 #5
Dems need to nationalize Akin's comments and make Romney denounce them Adenoid_Hynkel Aug 2012 #11
Lessons from Bennet vs. Buck TroyD Aug 2012 #6
I doubt MO will give a hoot. They love their bibles and hate blacks, kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #7
I went to junior and senior-high school in Harry S. Truman's coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #9
Todd Akin: "Time for a second look at federal 'civil rights and voting rights' laws." TroyD Aug 2012 #8
Here is the video clip thecentristword Aug 2012 #10
I bet his doctor lives in the Garden of Eden thecentristword Aug 2012 #12
I think we have about $4,000 into this race... brooklynite Aug 2012 #13
I would hope so but avebury Aug 2012 #14
Will it motivate Dems. to get out and vote? spooky3 Aug 2012 #17

Rhiannon12866

(205,161 posts)
15. It may have been, but consider what's happened with "Macaca," himself.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:17 AM
Aug 2012

Isn't he running for his former Senate seat yet again and didn't I see George Allen campaigning for Rmoney in VA?

spooky3

(34,434 posts)
16. yes, but I think that the OP is raising a really good question
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 08:39 PM
Aug 2012

George Allen was ahead in the polls and had a LOT more money than did Jim Webb when the Macaca Moment occurred. It clearly was the reason why things turned around and Webb won. McCaskill would probably be glad to have a similar outcome.

Had Webb decided to run again, Allen might not have entered the race this year, and he might not win this fall, especially if Obama continues to do well and has coattails. That's all speculation obviously.

But it isn't at all clear to me that people in general view outrageously sexist comments in the same way that they view outrageously racist comments, which is part of the question OP asks. So I am not sure that Akin's comments will have such a profound effect if Akin stays in.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
3. Did Todd Akin just have his macaca moment?
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:44 PM
Aug 2012

You would THINK SO...however never misunder-estimate the voting public and their propensity to vote against their own best interest.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
4. I'm not sure
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:49 PM
Aug 2012

Obama almost won Missouri in 2008, and yet in 2012 polls show him farther behind and Nate Silver says the state looks out of reach.

So perhaps it has moved farther to the right over the past 4 years and the Republicans will still be able to win the Senate seat.

It depends on the women's vote - they have the power to determine this election the same way they did for Michael Bennett over Ken Buck in 2010 in Colorado. Originally Buck was going to win, but huge support from women pushed Bennett over the top in the final days.

They will need to do the same thing here.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
5. The last poll I saw had Obama down 1...
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:56 PM
Aug 2012

In fact, the last two polls (Chilenski Strategies & SurveyUSA) show him only down 1.

So, it's still in play.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
11. Dems need to nationalize Akin's comments and make Romney denounce them
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 05:40 PM
Aug 2012

I'm sure Willard will campaign in Mo. at some point - and, if he stands with Akin, he should be made to own these comments as well.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
6. Lessons from Bennet vs. Buck
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 05:04 PM
Aug 2012

Here's my suggestion to the McCaskill campaign as to how to win the women's vote by large numbers the way Bennet did:

Liberal third party groups called Buck extremist. Bennet focused on attacking Buck’s views on abortion, which he believed should be banned including those of cases of rape and incest. He was also attacked for wanting to eliminate the 17th Amendment[24] and refusing to prosecute an alleged rapist as Weld County district attorney. Planned Parenthood mounted a mail campaign, targeting women voters with the warning that "Colorado women can’t trust Ken Buck." Bennet won the women vote by 17 points according to exit polls. After the election, Buck conceded to the Denver Post that the main reason why he lost is because of social issues.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Colorado,_2010
 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
9. I went to junior and senior-high school in Harry S. Truman's
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 05:30 PM
Aug 2012

birthplace (Lamar) back in the 70s. Hard to believe HST came from Missouri. (He integrated the armed services by Executive Order in 1947, IIRC.)

brooklynite

(94,493 posts)
13. I think we have about $4,000 into this race...
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 05:53 PM
Aug 2012

...and all my Party sources say this is the one we have to fight for.

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