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I'm getting more and more calls to jury duty from GD-P these days. (Original Post) KamaAina Oct 2015 OP
had seven calls of mine own UglyGreed Oct 2015 #1
You can't be called for DU jury service seven times in two days. Skinner Oct 2015 #2
How does it work? Teagan Oct 2015 #3
I've had quite a few UglyGreed Oct 2015 #4
They are in your inbox. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #19
I get called about once a day.... BooScout Oct 2015 #7
Thanks for the reality check! boston bean Oct 2015 #8
So have alerts increased in the last couple of months? nt Logical Oct 2015 #13
Why don't you limit the number of times people can alert? artislife Oct 2015 #14
I knew when certain folks started whining recently it was projection when they TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #15
I would love to see names. artislife Oct 2015 #16
6 alerts per member per year would go far in eliminating frivolous Zorra Oct 2015 #24
Here's why: Skinner Oct 2015 #17
Thank you for answering artislife Oct 2015 #20
Really? nt Logical Oct 2015 #11
I was just being sarcastic UglyGreed Oct 2015 #18
No, I think he called you out (as you term it) because what you said was a complete falsehood. cwydro Oct 2015 #25
Well I had two yesterday UglyGreed Oct 2015 #29
As others have pointed out, you can always decline. cwydro Oct 2015 #30
I don't mind serving UglyGreed Oct 2015 #35
Oh by way the UglyGreed Oct 2015 #31
Just refuse. I only do it when I have the time and motivation. Laffy Kat Oct 2015 #5
i have noticed that too. nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #6
There are threads I have commented on simply to avoid jury duty on them (nt) Recursion Oct 2015 #9
Oh, is that how it works? KamaAina Oct 2015 #10
Why not just refuse jury service??? nt Logical Oct 2015 #12
Same here. MoonRiver Oct 2015 #21
Alerts are a form of censorship. JRLeft Oct 2015 #23
That's just silly demwing Oct 2015 #34
I seem to be getting one a day at least Capt. Obvious Oct 2015 #22
I decided to opt out atreides1 Oct 2015 #26
I enjoy calling the bogus alerters out too much to do that. KamaAina Oct 2015 #28
It's worse than the gungeon sharp_stick Oct 2015 #27
You just can't take it seriously/personally. cwydro Oct 2015 #32
I don't find it onerous TSIAS Oct 2015 #33

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
1. had seven calls of mine own
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 05:48 PM
Oct 2015

in two days. God only knows how many juries have been about my posts these days.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
4. I've had quite a few
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 05:53 PM
Oct 2015

I could be wrong I just guessed at the number. Perhaps four or five since I started posting once again so check the time line of my posts.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
19. They are in your inbox.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 09:26 AM
Oct 2015

Why not post the results since you are called so often? It isn't against the rules and would really show if what you are being called on are frivolous or if they are all after one group. You have seven of them from very recently. That should give us a little insight as to the direction of alerts.

BooScout

(10,406 posts)
7. I get called about once a day....
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 07:29 PM
Oct 2015

And I'm on here a lot since I retired....so 7 times in two days seems rather outside the normal parameters. Maybe a lot of people have me on their jury blacklist.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
14. Why don't you limit the number of times people can alert?
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 12:23 AM
Oct 2015

I don't alert, I just trash threads or put posters on ignore...but it seems like there are people who are alert happy. Why not give posters a certain number of alerts for a certain period and if they use them up, they have to wait until the deadline passes. This will make people think if they really want to waste one of their alerts on a post that is usually just annoying but not really alert worthy.


TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
15. I knew when certain folks started whining recently it was projection when they
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 02:23 AM
Oct 2015

continued to oppose limits on alerts.

I think really if need more than 12 a year it is somewhat of a problem but if you need more than 6 a month then you need a new hobby.

There is nothing good for discussion that anyone needs unlimited alerts but they hold on them for dear life probably because they are machine gunning that shit at any provocation or on a grudge mission.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
16. I would love to see names.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 02:42 AM
Oct 2015

That would be crazy fun!

There are people who are way too serious about this and need to take up knitting or something.

Skinner

(63,645 posts)
17. Here's why:
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 09:14 AM
Oct 2015

1) People don't actually alert very much.

2) We already have a system to deal with alerts (both legitimate and illegitimate) -- it's called juries and they work pretty well.

3) If someone tries to send an alert without merit, they get a 0-7 and have their alerting automatically limited.

4) If any juror does not like occasionally serving on juries for alerts they consider frivolous, they can easily opt out of jury service.

And

5) Alerts are GOOD. They are what keeps this website relatively civil.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
18. I was just being sarcastic
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 09:17 AM
Oct 2015

But like I replied to Skinner, ever since I began posting again I have been called for jury duty at least five or six times. I know for a fact it was twice yesterday. I guess Skinner found the need to call me out because I've been riding Hillary pretty hard these days Well at least I finally got a reply from the head honcho

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
25. No, I think he called you out (as you term it) because what you said was a complete falsehood.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 12:32 PM
Oct 2015

People make up so much nonsense about the jury system.

According to your profile, you have only a 60% chance of being called for jury duty, and you claim 7 calls in two days?

I have a 100% chance of jury duty, and at most get one call every other day.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
30. As others have pointed out, you can always decline.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 01:45 PM
Oct 2015

I rarely decline. I think I did once because I saw that the alerted post was by one of the few posters I have zero respect for, and I ws afraid I wouldn't be fair.

I really do my best to be fair. I only vote to hide in clear personal attacks.

I agree with you that many alerts seem frivolous, however I still think the jury system works.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
35. I don't mind serving
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 08:00 PM
Oct 2015

but in some cases TOS IMO should be enforced outside of the Jury system. Thanks for the reply.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
31. Oh by way the
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 01:49 PM
Oct 2015

only problem I have with the jury system that it is a popularity contest. If you don't like the poster or what that person wrote personal attacks are allowed to remain. Then that empowers others to attack the poster personally. Personal attacks are against TOS and should be dealt with as such. I've seen explanations like, that poster deserves to be called names so many times, more than seven

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
5. Just refuse. I only do it when I have the time and motivation.
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 06:52 PM
Oct 2015

Although that's probably not your point. I get it. Never mind.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
9. There are threads I have commented on simply to avoid jury duty on them (nt)
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 08:37 PM
Oct 2015

Last edited Wed Oct 28, 2015, 11:11 PM - Edit history (1)

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
34. That's just silly
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 02:17 PM
Oct 2015

First, I think you mean Jury Hides are a form of censorship.

Second, your post implies that all censorship is bad. Some things need to be hidden, such as hate speech or personal attacks. These types of comments are not conducive to the operation of an online community. Sure, they could be left to stand, but DU would quickly become an ugly, unhappy place to hand out, and fewer and fewer people would ever post.

Even in the physical world, freedom of speech is not absolute. You cannot incite violence, for example. Prudent, limited censorship provides a measure of real world security. Why should our online world be any less secured?

atreides1

(16,075 posts)
26. I decided to opt out
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 12:40 PM
Oct 2015

With an 80% chance of being selected and with most of what I saw as nothing more then a bunch of hurt feelings and attempts at censorship on the part of the alerter, I decided I just didn't want to do it anymore!

I've always believed that the accused should have the right to face their accuser, but with the kangaroo court style of this jury system...it doesn't happen, so much for transparency!!!

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
32. You just can't take it seriously/personally.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 01:50 PM
Oct 2015

I used never to come to GD-P, but now I find it kind of amusing.

It's always the same posters on both sides trying to outdo each other in mean-spiritedness. But if you pay attention, you can see the rational, reasonable DUers hanging in there.

The mean-spirited ones never will change a single mind on either side, so basically they're just blowing hot air up their own arses.

TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
33. I don't find it onerous
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 02:03 PM
Oct 2015

I get a message perhaps twice a week, and even the most difficult assignment maybe takes five minutes to adjudicate.

I can also count on one hand the number of alerts I have sent. From past experience with the moderating process, I think the jury system is more fair than leaving it to the moderators.

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