2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThis sounds like something Trump would say:
I mean can't you just hear Trump say this about one of his opponents??
Except it wasn't. Thumbs down to this, Bernie campaign!
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,868 posts)boston bean
(36,221 posts)Gothmog
(145,130 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)mcar
(42,302 posts)At the least
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)what then?
boston bean
(36,221 posts)It was stupid, childish, boorish. I'll try to think up more adjectives... but campaigns, except for Trumps, usually don't say things like this with reporters taking notes in the room.
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)turned. I fully expect to see this as the ticket and prefer BS on top (no jokes, please) but. if HRC wins the primary I would not be at all surprised to see her select BS as her running mate.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)Was it Karl Rove?
boston bean
(36,221 posts)Or do you really need me to clue you in?
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)He said Bernie was willing to consider Hillary for VP.....even though she's the one who's 30 points ahead.
They'll even interview her.
How magnanimous of them!
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Bernie should chew him out.
But I also suspect the Clinton campaign staff doesn't sit around talking about sunshine and lollipops
TheKentuckian
(25,023 posts)against you O' my high and exalted Empress!
My only problem with the statement is even opening the door to the possibility of a Turd Wayer in his camp but Sanders is far more magnanimous than I.
I can't believe anyone is having the vapors over this statement. It is fucking ridiculous and the only explanation I've gotten for the offense was saying she is up in the polls. Well so the fuck what.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)TheKentuckian
(25,023 posts)What in the world is the insult?
LBJ wasn't insulted and neither was Biden.
If they are insulted it is wholly the fruit of their sense of entitlement and as such well deserved.
Motherfuck forever the Say Anything crowd and their stupid bullshit. If Sanders said he wouldn't consider her (and he shouldn't) then they'd be falling out about that too.
Good! Let them whine about this, better than the nasty shit the lie about and distort every other damn day.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)boston bean
(36,221 posts)Lockerbie??
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Or is this just another lie?
boston bean
(36,221 posts)I don't find it to be off putting, but obviously you do.
I was trying to get to the crux of the matter on how you actually felt.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)The rest is your fantasy of me
boston bean
(36,221 posts)Whereas, the quote in the OP is a negative for Bernie, and imho a negative for Trump using these tactics.
frylock
(34,825 posts)to be off putting.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)boston bean
(36,221 posts)Where can I see/read Hillary making a "glib comment about someone being sodomized with a knife.."
frylock
(34,825 posts)After which Hillary GLIBLY stated "We came, We saw, He died."
boston bean
(36,221 posts)And I still don't care about what she said, and am glad he is dead.
frylock
(34,825 posts)And of course you don't care, and you're glad he is dead. I would expect nothing less.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)You're original comment: I don't find it to be off putting, but obviously you do.
My response: Interesting that you don't find such a glib comment about someone being sodomized with a knife to be off putting.
My response in explaining my response: Gaddafi was sodomized with a knife when he was killed after which Hillary GLIBLY stated "We came, We saw, He died."
boston bean
(36,221 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Not the best of comments but still just one comment. Without seeing a track record I'm going to give this guy the respect I would give Sanders in this area. I can truly see this as equals ribbing each other. It's pretty mild stuff if I'm taking it the right way.
You are correct, if Trump said it I would say it's blatantly sexist. Track record.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)He said as much in his Charlie Rose interview.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)And that aspect is directly related to the quote in question. The comments aren't a reflection of Sanders himself even if taken as sexist.
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)boston bean
(36,221 posts)and saying sexist things.
Many times people don't know they are being sexist it is so ingrained in our culture. I am more than happy to give a pass.
The issue comes in, and questions arise in my mind, when their response is vociferous and continued sexist defenses of it or denial.
We see that all the time. That is when the line becomes muddled, at least for me.
TheKentuckian
(25,023 posts)The Say Anything Gang rides again.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)TheKentuckian
(25,023 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I just think if the initial reaction to the comment is more harsh than necessary, the reaction will often match.
We have all seen blatant displays of sexism here. I'm saying I can see why some might get defensive at this charge. Association to Sanders is direct while the comment itself is not.
dsc
(52,155 posts)and SC, we would still be hearing about what a racist campaign she was running. This was flat out sexist.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)snip...
snip....
http://crooksandliars.com/2015/10/these-campaign-consultants-did-real
TheKentuckian
(25,023 posts)come out.
Clinton by the way has not a single vote.
frylock
(34,825 posts)TheKentuckian
(25,023 posts)dsc
(52,155 posts)released after they both were dead, but other than that, I believe it totally.
TheKentuckian
(25,023 posts)dsc
(52,155 posts)why, oh why would I think the author was a big fat liar.
TheKentuckian
(25,023 posts)Big fat liar he might have been, I don't dispute that but even he didn't regale us with a harrowing tale of dodging bullets that I can recollect.
Phony, entitled, double talking, triangulating, loose lipped folks with a very casual relationship with the truth don't have much credibility. Between the two, I'll go with my gut and in case of a tie flip a quarter providing it hasn't been funneled away to the wealthy in some right wing scam perpetrated by the TeaPubliKlans or their kissing cousins the Turd Way.
On this one we didn't have to even dig in the couch cushions, the ring of truth was all over it. Just fits the smarmy, dismissive, entitled, power tripping phonies it was reported about to a fucking tee. I don't even recall much of any push back. Yeah, I believe it and probably worse with all that dog whistle and condescension running wild and ain't nothing changed.
Secular Republicans is all I get off of them, her especially and not even that secular kicking it with The Family prosperity cult.
frylock
(34,825 posts)"A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee." Sound familiar?
boston bean
(36,221 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)bye.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)bub bye.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Think about it reeeeeeal hard now.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)What defines them?
dsc
(52,155 posts)that was only released after both were dead and unable to comment upon it. But other than that I totally believe it.
moobu2
(4,822 posts)I'm so outragously outraged!!!!!
retrowire
(10,345 posts)are all kneeling on their knees and praying "Oh lord Bernie is such a nice guy and we wish him the best and golly gee willikers!"
No. All campaign managers talk smack about their opponents.
They're all putting pins and needles into little voodoo dolls.