2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumReuters Tracking Poll: HRC 72% - BS 23% among likely Dem voters.
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/29/1442384/-Reuters-Tracking-Poll-Clinton-Leads-Sanders-72-23-Among-Likely-Democratic-Votersbkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)trumad
(41,692 posts)forest444
(5,902 posts)But in our heart of hearts we all knew that, try as he might, Bernie would not ultimately be able to overcome the overwhelming and nearly unanimous opposition from the media. That's the sad truth.
That, and the last Benghazi hearing - which ended up being the biggest early Christmas present Hillary could have hoped for.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Isn't it just possible that outside the echo chamber of people who argue politics online there exists a wellspring of support among Democrats for Clinton? That Clinton supporters have logical, considered reasons for backing her?
I don't like the argument that voting for Clinton denotes media brainwashing or a lack of political knowledge and savvy. It's an argument lacking nuance.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)They craft these polls to get the response that they want.
Cha
(296,848 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
oasis
(49,327 posts)upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Persondem
(1,936 posts)MineralMan
(146,255 posts)yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)you were forecasting?
MineralMan
(146,255 posts)Likely Voters, too. I'm "stoked," as they used to say in my youth.
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)The Traveler
(5,632 posts)"Insufficient statistics" for the 18-30 age group. (Potentially 90 million voters in 2016.)
Sanders remains in range in this poll until you hit older voters.
Again, the polling presumes that the younger voters will have negligible impact on the outcome. That may turn out to be correct ... but there may be quite a surprise down the road.
Trav
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)I suspect when the results are in the real numbers will be somewhere between the two:
50-30
72-23
61-27
Let's wait for more polls for clarity, especially landline/cellphone ones.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)and vote overwhelmingly for Sanders to overcome the deficit he has in every other group.
Can they do it? Sure, the possibility exists, if a statistical "perfect storm" happens.
Will they do it? History says probably not (Just ask President Ron Paul.) The ball is in the millennials' court.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)HRC is and who she is connected to. I'm one of them. Feeling the Bern (first of the Boomers)
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)Really, their definition of likely voters could be way off.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)riversedge
(70,084 posts)them and addresses. They define likely voters as those who voted in last two elections.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)riversedge
(70,084 posts)Worldly Traveler
(34 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Go Hillary!
Spazito
(50,151 posts)Those are some impressive numbers!
Gamecock Lefty
(700 posts)The more they like Hillary!!!
riversedge
(70,084 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)riversedge
(70,084 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)Nice qualifyer.
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)Democrats:
Hillary - 53
Bernie - 35
Democrats/Independents:
Hillary - 47
Bernie - 32
Independents:
Hillary - 27
Bernie - 22
Wouldn't Vote - 45
So it looks like the key to victory for Bernie is to get out the vote. Get more people to the voting booths that aren't normally part of the political process. That's what his Political Revolution is all about.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)anyone else. He will never get much more than 25%. That's his constituency.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)Get out and vote. 63% did not vote and he said if they had we would have a very different government and country. He is right 100%
riversedge
(70,084 posts)riversedge
(70,084 posts)?1446147814
BootinUp
(47,083 posts)riversedge
(70,084 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)That's significant!
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)eom
SunSeeker
(51,513 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)Their likely voter model is crap.