Ryan on abortion exceptions: Rape is just another ‘method of conception’

[LynneSin]

Ryan on abortion exceptions: Rape is just another ‘method of conception’

Vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan says that he personally believes that rape is just another “method of conception” and not an excuse to allow abortions.

During an interview with WJHL this week, Ryan was asked his view about Rep. Todd Akin, who recently asserted that women could not get pregnant from “legitimate rape.”

“Specifically where you stand when it comes to rape, and when it comes to the issue of should it be legal for a woman to be able to get an abortion if she’s raped?” WJHL reporter Josh Smith wondered.

“I’m very proud of my pro-life record, and I’ve always adopted the idea that, the position that the method of conception doesn’t change the definition of life,” Ryan explained. “But let’s remember, I’m joining the Romney-Ryan ticket. And the president makes policy.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/24/ryan-on-abortion-exceptions-rape-is-just-another-method-of-conception/

OMFG!!!!

Are you kidding me?

Yes conception could occur if a woman is rape but geez, now is not the time to play politics with a woman who has been through one of the most traumatic things that could happen to a woman.

When will the GOP learn that a woman's uterus is not a political agenda!!!

[a geek named Bob]

1. Comments like his...

make me wonder what most of the republicans and hiding.

[themaguffin]

2. That would consistent, but if they believe it, they must OWN it. No hiding now for GOP in their view

[a geek named Bob]

4. I'm beginning to think, based on the action of the GOP...

that they know they are in a box:

1.) They have to know they are the party of the Scared Old White Guy
2.) Somebody in their hierarchy has to know that the tricks they've been playing, are getting noticed. (You can only run the same style of con job so many times, before the mark gets wise)
3.) They can chart demographics as well as we can...

The GOP has to be overtly catering to their fringe group, for a reason.

Unless they've finally lost their remaining marbles, and they're engaged in magical thinking.

[Anarcho-Socialist]

3. The Democratic Party says "thanks"

Thanking Romney/Ryan for more of the women's vote falling into the (D) column.

[Stuart G]

5. K and R..nt

[pansypoo53219]

6. it's his fucking RELIGION.

he is doing what KENNEDY SAID HE WOULD NOT. he wants to put AMERICA UNDER PAPAL DECREE. i REFUSE to be CATHOLIC!

[Cosmocat]

7. Hard to run with this ...

Political parsing while letting his britches get in the wind a bit, but did NOT say "rape is just anotherr" method of contraception.

I agree those dots connect if you think about it, but he did not directly marginalize rape as an action ... That was not what he was doing in this statement.

[nytemare]

8. Yes, parsing of words where it really wasn't needed

His actual quote could get some legs. "The method of conception doesn't change the definition of life". I mean, he WAS asked about rape. I think there was no need to pile on. Just quote him for what he said, then elaborate.

As it is now, the spin will be that the "libtards" misquoted Ryan to try to make him look bad. He should have looked bad enough for his response. Now, this just gives the right a way to deflect back on us.

[meow2u3]

10. He was effectively condoning rape

That's what pisses me off to no end. What next, Paulie, a bill to remove any criminal punishment for rapists and lock up the victim instead?

[LynneSin]

12. Really?

Sorry, but this is another attempt at politicizing rape and justifying their control over women.

You know what rape is to those of not involved in the incident - NONE OF OUR BUSINESS.

Ryan is just digging the hole deeper and making the divide greater between the GOP and women.

[Cosmocat]

14. Yes and no

I get it the point, I really do.

If you connect the dots it comes to the point you make.

But, he wasn't "politicizing rape."

He did not just up and say what he said.

He was asked a question about it and answered it.

And, the first sentence, the "just" thing is what republicans do. It is how they have turned what President Obama said about bridges into his saying people did not build their own businesses.

He did not speak in that kind of cavalier manner about rape, and that is what people are trying to run with here.

It does not happen often for republicans, but there IS intellectual honestly in what he said, verbatim. What he said was regardless of the circumstances, life exists at conception.

As someone else noted, the HONEST play is to put his quote up and ask him about the concept of "method of contraception" relative to rape and abortion.

Where you are is there, he just parsed short of saying it, when questioned.


Vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan says that he personally believes that rape is just another “method of conception” and not an excuse to allow abortions.

During an interview with WJHL this week, Ryan was asked his view about Rep. Todd Akin, who recently asserted that women could not get pregnant from “legitimate rape.”

“Specifically where you stand when it comes to rape, and when it comes to the issue of should it be legal for a woman to be able to get an abortion if she’s raped?” WJHL reporter Josh Smith wondered.

“I’m very proud of my pro-life record, and I’ve always adopted the idea that, the position that the method of conception doesn’t change the definition of life,” Ryan explained. “But let’s remember, I’m joining the Romney-Ryan ticket. And the president makes policy.”

[LynneSin]

15. The fact that he even brought it up makes him politicizing rape.

The Republicans are digging a hole bigger than the grand canyon on this issue.

When I hear of a Republican talk about rape it reminds me of a friend who was raped and the anger she dealt with for years trying to understand 'why me?' And there are thousands of other people with their own personal stories. So to hear a politician out there 'just connecting the dots' over an act of VIOLENCE - that is politicizing it.

Obama was smart enough to say 'RAPE is RAPE'. That's all that needs to be said. Not listening to some mainly male politician trying to justify being anti-choice by using a violent act. I mean hell next we'll justify what Hitler did because he was good to children and animals AND he was a vegetarian.

[Cosmocat]

18. He didn't bring it up

he was asked a question.

Look, we agree on where he is with this.

I am just saying, his record in the House voting for stuff, good follow up questions on this statement ... He is not in a great position on this issue.

I don't like the guy one bit, I think he is a lightweight who just looks good and by republican standards is not a flaming idiot.

But, from the standpoint of a politician answering a question, this was not a horrible statement.

He has LOTS of long hanging fruit that is straight up nonsense, including his votes on this issue.

[LynneSin]

19. You're right but

the fact that he had to call it a 'form of conception' politicized it.

Who cares?

We should never EVER talk of rape as a form of conception. Sure it can happen but as I've said many times - this should never EVER be a part of the political agenda other than creating strong laws to protect victims, provide them the healthcare they need (both physical and mental) along with prosecuting those who commit the crimes.

Talking about it in any way, shape or form in regards to conception is politics. Because honestly, it's a private matter between the victim and her doctor and any family/friends she asks to help her with this matter. Never EVER should a politician be a part of that kind of discussion EVER.

So yes, his commit was pure politics. What a smart politician would have said is that rape is a crime and what happens after the rape should be a private matter and not the debate amongst politicians.

[meow2u3]

9. meow2u3 on Paul Ryan: Castration is just another method of birth control

Are you willing to volunteer, Paulie, or do we have to lop off your little boy parts legitimately?

Suggested chant in anti-Ryan protests: Ho, ho hey hey, how many women did you rape today?

[LuckyTheDog]

11. Creepy

Source: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=277652349001577&set=a.276315405801938.47047.268963819870430&type=3&theater

[Skeptical George]

13. I'm an Irish-American

[geekboy09]

16. he's creepy

[Tom Ripley]

17. Sounds like something a rapist would say