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Boston Globe: Obama and Romney "virtually tied" in FL (Original Post) Ashleyshubby Aug 2012 OP
Leading by 4% is not "virtually tied." demosincebirth Aug 2012 #1
It was within that poll's margin of error, which is dependent on the sample size. pnwmom Aug 2012 #2
It is if you are a democrat Cosmocat Aug 2012 #8
That's one big ass margin of error, there--unless they're saying something like MADem Aug 2012 #3
Biden and Clinton in Florida * woolldog Aug 2012 #4
Yesssss!!!! Let us not forget the Power of the Big Dawg! MADem Aug 2012 #10
More Democrats iBoy2G Aug 2012 #5
I'd rather Obama lead by 4 than trail by 4... Drunken Irishman Aug 2012 #6
That's the key point Ashleyshubby Aug 2012 #7
Worried about FL. It's a morass of suppression, misinformation, rigged districts... johnnyrocket Aug 2012 #9

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
2. It was within that poll's margin of error, which is dependent on the sample size.
Tue Aug 28, 2012, 02:43 AM
Aug 2012

Which means that another sampling could have gotten the opposite result.

The smaller a sample size, the less precision you get in the results, and the less confidence you should have in them.

Still, I'd rather be 4 points on top than 4 points under.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
3. That's one big ass margin of error, there--unless they're saying something like
Tue Aug 28, 2012, 02:45 AM
Aug 2012

let's pretend that RMoney is on the up side of a three percent margin, and Obama is on the down side...

Even at that, they're trying to create a horserace because that sells papers.

All that said, BIDEN IN FL is a GOOD IDEA. He can sell the truth about Medicare to an audience that isn't entirely stupid about this issue, and who may harbor some vestigial racial animus from back in the dark ages (which is what rMoney is trying to tap into...)

MADem

(135,425 posts)
10. Yesssss!!!! Let us not forget the Power of the Big Dawg!
Tue Aug 28, 2012, 01:20 PM
Aug 2012

No one can listen more intently and make an individual, or a group of individuals, feel like they are the most important people in the whole frigging world. He's a MASTER. Biden is a fantastic rally leader, too--he'll be very effective.

Surprisingly, you know who else has this talent? You'd never expect it, and he's not quite as good as Clinton, but damn good nonetheless--Steny Hoyer. He has that talent as well. Most good politicians have it--it's part of the job description.

iBoy2G

(8 posts)
5. More Democrats
Tue Aug 28, 2012, 02:48 AM
Aug 2012

Last time I checked there were a lot more registered Democrats in Florida than Republicans. Yet somehow we keep getting stuck with these low life Republican governors.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
6. I'd rather Obama lead by 4 than trail by 4...
Tue Aug 28, 2012, 03:03 AM
Aug 2012

It seems almost always, even when the polls suggest 'a virtual tie', the leading candidate wins.

 

Ashleyshubby

(81 posts)
7. That's the key point
Tue Aug 28, 2012, 04:45 AM
Aug 2012

The probability of Romney being ahead by even 1% over Obama is much smaller than Obama being ahead by any margin.

In 2008, the average of all polls was off less than 0.5%. "statistical tie" lovers pretend that polls are usually wrong by 4% or so, which is not true.

johnnyrocket

(1,773 posts)
9. Worried about FL. It's a morass of suppression, misinformation, rigged districts...
Tue Aug 28, 2012, 12:34 PM
Aug 2012

....and in my opinion: election corruption.

I don't know how the Dems overcome that mess.

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