2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumLooks like Ryan is just repeating their litany of lies...
Just repeated the Solyndra canard. The loans were initiated under George W. Bush.
Repeated the Janesville GM Plant closing lie (closed under Bush)
Claimed he got "everything he wanted" in the stimulus -- not even close.
Now claiming that the government is in charge of health care.
corkhead
(6,119 posts)Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)corkhead
(6,119 posts)Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)except that his plan bankrupts it eight years earlier. Just in time for the vouchers to kick in, so it disappears altogether.
KaryninMiami
(3,073 posts)"Medicare is a promise and we will honor it". I do hope the Obama ad team is taking careful notes. This is going to be their main lie. They will use this for the rest of the campaign if we don't put an end to it. Next week is the chance to do this.
Sugarcoated
(7,722 posts)Obama is really good at explaining, and he seems honest to people . . . because he is being honest. And Biden will do the same
in his honest, direct and passionate way. Facts are pesky little things.
Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)Let's face it. They have to make you a) forget what happened from 2000-2008 b) forget that Republicans have been blocking everything and c) not pay attention to what they're planning to do.
BTW. Just lied about how much debt Obama created - not more than any other President.
Sugarcoated
(7,722 posts)and a professional smart campaign team who will respond. Not only that, but it's so over-the-top alternate-reality that normal, reasonable undecideds will see these clowns as liars. People can see what the President is and what he's done.
cal04
(41,505 posts)I know you guys are taking lots of notes on all these lies
Bob Cesca
Good luck @Politifact and @factcheckdotorg -- you'll be working overtime on this speech.
David Axelrod
https://twitter.com/davidaxelrod
Again, Ryan blames Obama for a GM plant that closed under Bush. But then, they did say they wouldn't "let fact checkers get in the way."
Ryan, who voted for two wars that weren't paid for, two budget-busting tax cuts and a unpaid for Medicare Rx program, moralizing about debt?
As a member of the commission, didn't Ryan voted AGAINST the Simpson-Bowles plan?
https://twitter.com/davidaxelrod
jenmito
(37,326 posts)Floyd_Gondolli
(1,277 posts)Very amateurish.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)Of course, because your core demographic of old white men is dying off. If they don't win in 2012, they're history.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)Man, for a second there, I thought he was going to forget it.
Sugarcoated
(7,722 posts)where they make shit up, repeat it over and over, maybe even believe it. That's what only dealing with wingnut news outlets for so long do to their minds.
cheezmaka
(737 posts)President Obama and the whole DNC will be "ALL OVER THIS"! As for Paul Ryan, I'm gonna let Joe Biden handle him...
MariaM83
(233 posts)Sugarcoated
(7,722 posts)that Rayn believes the strong should take care of the weak, bullshitter.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)Apparently the Catholic Ryan didn't read the Catholic Bishops letter on his budget plan. They used the word "cruel" to describe it.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,406 posts)as soon as that pesky "democracy" and "government" thing is done away with.