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ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 02:28 PM Dec 2015

Same Team! We are all on the same team!

To borrow phrase from the jamband scene in order to diffuse the "my band is better than your band" argument, we all need to realize we are all on the same team no matter who in the Democratic primaries we support. It is not productive to try to take down one candidate via personal biased attacks. We need to remember that we are all on the same team...albeit with different ideas, but still we must keep a positive message.

SAME TEAM!

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fredamae

(4,458 posts)
3. Are we-in reality?
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 02:37 PM
Dec 2015

"A senior state Democratic Party official likened the national party chairwoman’s tenure to a “full-fledged dictatorship,” amplifying growing unease among some top Democrats about party leaders’ efforts to restrict the number of candidate debates during the presidential primaries."
http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2015/09/11/top-mass-democrat-compares-dnc-dictatorship/fbfonfjnDLQzhh3G2TdJvJ/story.html?event=event25

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
4. No we are NOT on the same team
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 02:42 PM
Dec 2015

And the people that keep excusing the abandonment of working class issues by the Democratic Party are enabling the takeover by coporate and big-money interests.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
16. And that defines exactly why we are not all on the same
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 03:26 PM
Dec 2015

team. This is a fight over which way our country is to go - corporation control vs we the people.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
6. No, we aren't.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 02:45 PM
Dec 2015

I don't team up with people who claim POC are intellectually less than because they support a progressive. I don't team up with people so mentally corrupt that they believe Thatcher is more of a feminist role model than Clinton. I'm not on the same team as people who believe Marissa J is a racist.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
7. You sound like Jerry Jones in the locker room at halftime, but . . .
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 02:46 PM
Dec 2015

. . . this ain't a game, and it ain't a sport.

Hillary voted for the Iraq War.
5000 Americans were killed because of that war.
Now she wants to run the entire country.

It's not a game.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
10. We're not.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 02:51 PM
Dec 2015

I am fully unwilling from sharing a party or a tent with Hillary or her supporters. My contingent future support in 2016 is dependent upon her failure to secure the Democratic nomination...otherwise I am going to sit out this election and when she loses (because I don't believe she has a path to victory in the GE) I'm going to have a "Hit the Road, Jack!" party for Hillary and her friends--complete with rails, pitchforks and torches to escort them back to the GOP where they belong.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
11. I didn't get my pom-poms. So, I guess I'm not on the team.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 03:00 PM
Dec 2015
"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever, in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else, where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all." Thomas Jefferson

Blue_Adept

(6,397 posts)
12. The comments to this post proves we're not, at least here
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 03:05 PM
Dec 2015

And it's hysterical.

I especially love comments elsewhere that say that once the primaries are over things will be better. Considering the massive ignore lists some posters likely have at this point, there's years of recriminations ahead for some that they'll use at every opportunity.

Which is why it's best to just look at it all as comedy as long as you're not in the overly emotionally invested side with a particular candidate. At this point I couldn't give two figs as to who gets the nomination from voters in the Democratic primary. I'll vote for whoever wins.

But the intensity and vitriol here just keeps reminding me why I avoid it a few years at a time. And why so many voters are casuals and don't get involved longterm.

Circular firing squads used to be a thing we called the Republicans. We've now co-opted so many of them as our "base" that we're doing it to ourselves.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
18. So you do not think there is any difference between the
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 03:31 PM
Dec 2015

candidates? Or for that matter the direction of the party?

We are all just working for the same thing?

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
14. That's not really true.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 03:22 PM
Dec 2015

Progressives do NOT support the Oligarchs, FRACKING, the TPP, Prisons for Profits, the tax cut loopholes, wars, wars, wars and more wars, CORPORATE raping of this country, Wall St. Thieves, Big Oil, Big Pharma, Big Ag, MONSANTO AND GMOs, . Whereas, Clinton and her supporters do.

There's a Huge chasm in the party. We're not really on the same team. Not.Even.Close

brooklynite

(94,489 posts)
15. Bottom line: some of us will stay with the Party...
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 03:25 PM
Dec 2015

... and work within it to advance the policies we care about.

Some of us apparently will not.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
19. Then you do not belong on this site
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 03:38 PM
Dec 2015

Where most users commit to supporting the Democratic party itself. "It's either my candidate or I stay home in the fall!" is a destructive and petulant thing.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
20. I will never stay home.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 03:41 PM
Dec 2015

I have voted in every election since I've been of age, and I will continue to vote for the candidates I believe in.

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