2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumFor all those on our side who say "but, but, but...he didn't get this done or that..."
Humbly and respectfully submitted, after being invited by another DUer to post this.
Look, I understand about the mixed feelings. AND the watered-down agenda. Truly. I KNOW. But I've still gotta ask...
Ummm... and the alternative is.....????
You think for one instant that you're gonna get a fair shake from a republi-CON? Seriously? ANY republi-CON???? Remember, it's not just the republi-CON who gets in. It's all the riff-raff, pirates, cheaters, meanies, imperialists, manipulators, vultures, scam-masters, warmongers, bedroom busybodies, bullies, and hypocrites they bring in with them, as advisors, appointees, and Heaven forbid - Supreme Court justice nominees!!!
Doesn't ANYBODY get it????
And if you just are gonna show 'em all and stay home and say "fuck 'em!"? Yeah, then you don't have any right to complain when you don't get the result you THOUGHT you wanted.
Sorry for being abrupt, too, but I guess that's just how the ol' mood was leaning, this morning. I made all kinds of trouble on Facebook, too, today! Thanks for suffering this ol' fool!
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)a sig line:
You think for one instant that you're gonna get a fair shake from a republi-CON? Seriously? ANY republi-CON???? Remember, it's not just the republi-CON who gets in. It's all the riff-raff, pirates, cheaters, meanies, imperialists, manipulators, vultures, scam-masters, warmongers, bedroom busybodies, bullies, and hypocrites they bring in with them, as advisors, appointees, and Heaven forbid - Supreme Court justice nominees!!!
Pab Sungenis
(9,612 posts)I keep saying the simple fact is that Obama is President right now. He has been President for over three years. We shouldn't need to re-elect him to accomplish anything; he should have been doing it from day one.
The watered down agenda hurt his Presidency, the country as a whole, and helped lose us the Congress in 2010. Most of the first term can be summed up in two words: wasted opportunity.
He's been turning things around, slowly but surely, and starting to show some life and some fire for a real fight. He's started pushing some of the policies that should have been in the first hundred days. My only fear is that when we re-elect him, the "fired up" Obama will disappear and the "bipartisanship" Obama will return.
That said, yes, he is a thousand times better than the current GOP crop, and I will vote for him again. But let's have the second term (and the remaining 11.9 months of the first) be a lot better than what we'd had from 2009-2011.
Obama3_16
(157 posts)part of the process. There are costs as well as benefits to holding elections every four years. One of them is "steep learning curve" for the new guy. I could easily point to wasted opportunities of SO MANY Democratic presidents' first terms.
pnwmom
(108,952 posts)who we've been seeing in their full blown insanity during this primary election process.
If we want him to have a better 2nd term, then the only way to help him do that is by electing more progressives to Congress to work with him -- the Rethugs never will.
What I don't get (being foreign) is how the Republicans have been allowed to get away with their filibustering antics - it doesn't seem, from my selective sampling of US media, to have been much remarked upon as anything out of the ordinary. But it seems nothing short of treasonous to deny an elected government its mandate for action.