2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHow very appropriate - Hillary endorser Emily's List is offering champaign flutes to donors
vNCTraveler
(30,481 posts)A little something to celebrate victory with. Water in mine please.
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)Blue_Adept
(6,384 posts)I'm struggling to understand this line of thought. Honestly.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)prize for giving their money. THat is tone deaf.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)SunSeeker
(51,369 posts)When I was growing up my family always celebrated New Year's Eve with Andre's pink champaign. We were butt poor but we still celebrated with champaign. And we had champaign flutes. Mom got them at Goodwill for 25 cents a piece, like our clothes.
Blue_Adept
(6,384 posts)during the New Year's Eve week and get some responses that might say that, but I'd hazard probably something like 10-20% at most.
For the majority of people, it's a symbol of celebration and new beginnings built into a tradition that goes back throughout most of the 20th century.
I suspect it's more that you're tone deaf to how most people view it and are just using it as a political attack and ideological attack rather than understanding what it is.
LuvLoogie
(6,854 posts)You may go around back for a nice cup of hot, spiced mead. A sack of grain for each family, as well! Merry Christmas!
Scuba
(53,475 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)ronnykmarshall
(35,356 posts)I think I'll crack open a bottle of Oligarchy bubbly in honor of this bullshit.
pnwmom
(108,925 posts)ronnykmarshall
(35,356 posts)So does that make me part of "the oligarchy"?
What a new load of shit.
hack89
(39,171 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Blue_Adept
(6,384 posts)I'm pretty freakin' poor myself at the moment and struggling like hell. But I've never viewed champagne - particularly during this week - as a symbol of the 1%. it's a symbol of celebration for a great many people.
But go ahead, hang your hat on that as a winning strategy and just continue to look upon so many as being stupid.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Let them eat cake too
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Was the sig line for "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous." They didn't invent the association of champagne and caviar with wealth and fame. It was pretty well understood. As it is in this context.
This is snub of people who are too poor or too time constrained to go to happy hour, out to dinner, to socialize at all. People Democrats should stand up for and respect.
ThePhilosopher04
(1,732 posts)Otherwise your post stands on its own as classic example.
Blue_Adept
(6,384 posts)A further disconnect from Sanders supporters with reality.
quickesst
(6,280 posts).....looking for inspiration?
hack89
(39,171 posts)or something.
Response to Blue_Adept (Reply #16)
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Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)How can you possibly struggle with this line of thought?
Once you wrap your mind around how obvious this is, then try to comprehend why so many of us can't support Hillary. The two are associated.
Blue_Adept
(6,384 posts)But at New Year's? C'mon. Try and tell that to the general population this week that champagne and champagne glasses are elitist 1% symbols.
Purrfessor
(1,188 posts)FarPoint
(12,209 posts)I want to enjoy the campaign season! Fill my flute too. I want to smile and this makes me smile....
Logical
(22,457 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)intheozone
(1,102 posts)vi5
(13,305 posts)...cake plates for everyone else perhaps?
TheBlackAdder
(28,073 posts)HoneychildMooseMoss
(251 posts)Maybe Chinet plates to give them a little class.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)They called me begging for money (after I learned that they were one of the largest Clinton donors) and when I told them I did not support Clinton, the caller got all nasty and told me she hoped my job was one that got outsourced when a republican was elected POTUS. I told her that there was an alternative that did not involve Clinton or any other republican and she told me to perform an anatomically impossible act and hung up.
Extremely rude and no class.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)ronnykmarshall
(35,356 posts)[url=https://flic.kr/p/wUKX4U][img][/img]
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)At least not until they untangle themselves from the DWS- DNC.
Democratic National Committee 2013-14
Chief Executive Officer Amy Dacey
(reported Oct. 31, 2013, started Jan. 2014) Executive director of EMILY's List, announced June 4, 2010. Director of government relations at Service Employees International Union. National political director for Sen. John Kerry's Keeping America's Promise PAC, 2005-06. During the fall 2004 presidential campaign, Dacey served as traveling political director to Sen. Kerry; during the primaries, she was a regional political coordinator for the Kerry campaign. Deputy political director at the DSCC in the 2002 cycle. State legislative program director for EMILY's List, 2001. Deputy political director at the DCCC in the 2000 cycle. Deputy chief of staff to U.S. Rep. Louis Slaughter (NY) and ran her successful 1998 re-election campaign. Deputy campaign manager for U.S. Rep. Maurice Hinchey's (NY) 1996 re-election campaign. Dacey's first position in Washington, DC was as a policy analyst and director of development for the National Foundation of Women Legislators. Master's degree in political science from the American University, 1995; bachelor's degree in political science and history from the SUNY at Binghamton, 1993. From Auburn, NY. twitter
Special Assistant to the CEO Courtney Federico
(Jan. 2014) Assistant to the executive director at EMILY's List, June-Dec. 2013. Public engagement intern at the White House Council on Environmental Quality, Jan.-May 2013. Field organizer in Nashua, NH for Organizing for America, Aug.-Nov. 2012; started as an Organizing Fellow in Boston in the summer. B.A. in international relations from Boston University, 2012.
http://www.p2016.org/parties/dnc13.html
onehandle
(51,122 posts)You do know this is Democratic Underground, right?
PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)Renew Deal
(81,801 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I ask, becuase they didn't actually mention the subject, and so i can't guess, myself.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)Not through Emily's List.
karynnj
(59,475 posts)because I prefer selecting the candidates I contribute to myself and because I prefer selecting them without regards to gender. (I also do not like DWS.)
Dacey has a resume that includes a high level union position, work on the most liberal of the viable candidates' campaign in 2004, continuing on his PAC which did incredible work for the 2006 election. Her work before that - on Hinkley's and Slaughter's campaigns - both very very liberal - and at NOW suggest to me that she is a liberal feminist.
Federico graduated with a BA from Boston University in 2012 - since then she has worked as a WH intern and on various campaigns. She was hired by Emily's list a year and a half after she got her BA - from this information, she sounds like someone any liberal political organization might hire
bigtree
(85,917 posts)Bernie? Hair cup...
demwing
(16,916 posts)Think I missed the joke here
bigtree
(85,917 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)seen in a while.
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Breaking News
DURevolution Dispatch
SPACETraveler
In an epic turn of events Hillary Clinton appears to be ending her campaign after an online "pundit" brought to light serious optic issues with her campaign.
FluteGate seems to have hit home on two fronts. Republicans seeing the name FluteGate are reminded of Lewinsky as anything that can even remotely be seen as phallic makes them think of Clinton; Paul supporters claim it represents her ignorance to wealth inequality. This has really had an impact on the messenge of both camps as they see it as a "winner".
We asked Multimillionaire and Super Berner Sarah Silverman about this very topic when we ran into her leaving Gucci.
"It's just fucked up how out of touch with reality she is. You can't get into a bottle of champagne for under eight god damn dollars!!!" Silverman said.
We pulled up behind actor, rapper, and multimillionaire Killer Mike and noticed he was sporting a "Say No To Flutes" bumper sticker. We attempted to catch up to him for comment but he was a little too fast in his 2015 Porsche Carrera Twin-Turbo.
One thing is for sure, with SPACETraveler and Scoot on the ground reporting, there will be more to come.
#BernItDown
UPDATE: After Scoot spent the night working sources he informed me that Killer Mike was attending an early Sunday Morning Social Breakfast at the local Country Club. When I arrived and snuck past security I was horrified to find it was a champagne breakfast.
I got close enough to blurt out "Killer Mike, I saw the sticker on the back of your car, any comment on FluteGate?"
Killer Mike replied "That sticker is in reference to the woodwind you dumb mother fucker!!! Back off me and my Dom!!!"
"Say No To Flutes!"
ronnykmarshall
(35,356 posts)Metric System
(6,048 posts)m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)I am a gay man highly critical of Human Rights Campaign , for example, does that make me a freeper as well? your reasoning is seriously ridiculous and flawed.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Blue_Adept
(6,384 posts)Amirite?
A champagne flute is now 1% elitism.
Got it. That's a winning story to put forward to draw more people to his campaign.
Zynx
(21,328 posts)But oh my god, even the slightest little bit of extra luxury is a sign of creeping fascism!
Blue_Adept
(6,384 posts)$3 a flute? I don't know if I can associate with a 1%er like you.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)In fact, drinking anything more expensive than Bud Light out of a brown paper bag is class treason.
Zynx
(21,328 posts)Yes, there's expensive as shit champagne, but this isn't like they're handing out caviar spoons.
If this is supposed to be the latest sign of Hillary's liberal elitism, I think you're scraping a little low. Might want to restock your outrage reserves.
Blue_Adept
(6,384 posts)Practically every corporate office across the country brings in basic stuff for those that are there - working or for the party before folks go home.
My significant other got a basic bottle as a gift before Christmas for New Year's as well. Nothing expansive or fancy, but a small company and a couple hundred bucks spent across the main office folks for a little something.
But perhaps that makes her the 1% now if she drinks it in a champagne flute.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Blue_Adept
(6,384 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)The "leaders" listed on the website are just... wait how do you say it?... I don't want to get it wrong... Oh I remember! DWS-DNC-HRC-WTF Plants!
Did I get that right?
Blue_Adept
(6,384 posts)riversedge
(69,722 posts)comradebillyboy
(10,119 posts)earthside
(6,960 posts)Fits right into the Hillary Clinton economic and social strata.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)You do realize their whole purpose is electing pro-choice democratic women, right?
This place is losing it seriously.
earthside
(6,960 posts)... it has been considerably more snobby.
Really champagne flutes?
Even the New Year's celebration angle is tone deaf.
Something like 80 percent of Americans basically stay home on New Year's Eve and get some sleep.
The effects of Clintonianism are pernicious -- somehow, someway their association with her will come back to taint them.
olddots
(10,237 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)It's not like you can order them from an imprinter for as low as 93 cents...
https://www.discountmugs.com/product/4640al-6.25-oz.-premiere-monogrammed-champagne-flutes
Plus: TAKE 15% OFF ALL REGULARLY PRICED ITEMS WITH PROMO CODE: SNOW15
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)MeNMyVolt
(1,095 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)underthematrix
(5,811 posts)okasha
(11,573 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)underthematrix
(5,811 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)underthematrix
(5,811 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,921 posts)Emily's list. Sweet Jesus.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)The Golden One
(46 posts)Been waiting for someone to discuss issues with me.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)The Golden One
(46 posts)Foreign policy.
Why do you think Clinton wants to continue the same neocon policies regarding Middle East problem of ISIL/Daesh?
Bernie has a different, agreeable approach to ISIL/Daesh. Instead of the U.S. being the world police, it is suggested that the Middle Eastern countries take the lead which is the right idea, with support.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)And I disagree that Hillary wants to continue "neocon policies"
She believes in a a coalition, but this also includes local Iraqi units for guidance and efficiency.
This approach seems much more feasible to me than than just suggest "The Middle Eastern countries" take the lead. That is -like I said- an overly simplistic approach. These countries are not a monolithic group. There's a lot of diversity among them, and it should be taken into account.
Now, how is Sanders going to pay for his proposals?
The Golden One
(46 posts)There are many proposals that Bernie has brought forth that has a way to pay for it.
Please clarify.
In regards to Syria, why would Clinton want to set up a no-fly zone where there is no air force from Syria. Only Russians aircraft are up there now. Butting heads with Putin?
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)and no-fly zone can help protect civilians from the worst of the violence. Kerry has also been for it
The Golden One
(46 posts)None of them even deserves more than 10% of their maximum wealth of their co-workers.
the disparity is 697 to 1.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Take out his magic scissors and start snipping? Ask "pretty please, take a pay cut?"
How is he going to do this?
Cut the CEO compensations around the world to 25%
....and AROUND the WORLD, no less!!!!
Hey, you rich Chinese businessmen--you cut those salaries by seventy five percent--or I'm going to yell and point at you!!! You Russians over there with all your fancy cars and apartments--no more than ten percent for you! Because I SAID so!!!!
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)And by president I actually mean dictator so that he can cut that pesky CEO pay, fuck it lets just install him as leader forever.
Check please... Reality check that is.
Blue_Adept
(6,384 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Will he wave his magic wand? Will he hypnotize these CEOs?
Number23
(24,544 posts)And it's particularly perfect when you consider it was your demand to "discuss policy" (as if you or anyone are in a position to "demand" anything from anybody here) that put you there.
Lordy me... Classic.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)The Golden One
(46 posts)thereismore
(13,326 posts)pnwmom
(108,925 posts)They have a better proofreader.
oasis
(49,151 posts)Zynx
(21,328 posts)It would be a disaster for him.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)oasis
(49,151 posts)okasha
(11,573 posts)when you pry it out of my cold, dead hand.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Is this an 8th way Hillary is just like her?
Blue_Adept
(6,384 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Blue_Adept
(6,384 posts)Which it's anything but.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)The fact that you can't see it is your issue.
Blue_Adept
(6,384 posts)Champagne is elitist?
Or both?
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)Kroger isn't what I'd call elitist.
okasha
(11,573 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)I bought a bottle of some kind of whiskey my niece drinks last year. $75. Way over the cost of my champagne I periodically drink.
Yet, Sanders promoting not liking our Santa gifts on Christmas day, to buy a $30 coffee mug gets a thumbs up.
Hmmmmm.
okasha
(11,573 posts)would serve Hawaiian Punch in Dixie cups at state dinners.
JI7
(89,174 posts)And something people who don't live on the coasts would know anything about.
emulatorloo
(43,981 posts)acting like us Iowa hicks had never heard of green tea.
ronnykmarshall
(35,356 posts)I'll order some right now!
brooklynite
(93,856 posts)one_voice
(20,043 posts)but I guess if you NEED something to be outraged about.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)More breaking news pending on FluteGate. Stayed tuned to the op for further updates.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I support your concerns with this issue.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)... this short video should be like mother's milk to you....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251951548
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Sanders was at an event this weekend where champaign was served. I'm working on damage control.
Segami
(14,923 posts)Wall Street Mocks Protesters By Drinking Champagne
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)RandySF
(57,636 posts)But the op is too dumb to even bother.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Cognitive dissonance is truly the hallmark of Hillary's campaign.
Logical
(22,457 posts)riversedge
(69,722 posts)of nasty snarky posts.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)onenote
(42,376 posts)That's the approximate number of 5 oz glasses of sparkling wine consumed in the US last year. Around 360 million of those glasses are consumed during the holidays. US population is 319 million. If only "1 percenters" drank bubbly, then they'd be consuming, per person (and without adjusting for age) over 112 glasses during the holidays.
So much for the champagne flutes are "elitist" meme.