The proverbial picture is worth a thousand words (Part 2):

[KingCharlemagne]

[Uncle Joe]

1. But Bernie shouldn't try to enlighten Trump's supporters?

Thanks for the thread, KingCharlemagne.

[KingCharlemagne]

4. YW. Maybe this pic will quiet some of the

yammering. I'm not holding my breath, mind you

[Uncle Joe]

6. I doubt it, some dots are too uncomfortable to connect.

I'm heading to a party.

Peace to you and have a Happy New Year!

[peacebird]

2. Yes, Hillary cares enough to go to Trumps wedding.

I'm sure 'we were dead broke when we left the White House' can feel the pain of folks slipping out of the middle class.... NOT.

[KingCharlemagne]

7. Why is Hillary cuddling with a racist? - nt

[CorporatistNation]

24. That $139MILLION Smackers Kinda Soothes Da Sting Don't it Hillary?

[HassleCat]

3. An essential talent for good politicians

A good politician can pretend to like somebody he or she truly despises, and you will never know the difference. This applies to showing a smiling face or genuine concern for wealthy people, poor people, religious people, minorities, or anyone else. No matter who you are, a capable politician can look you in the eye and make you believe he or she is on your side and will fight to the death for you.

[KingCharlemagne]

5. you mean like this?

[peacebird]

8. ...

[madokie]

50. FWIW

I remember when the repubi'CONs pushed old hank as a sex symbol. Yes I typed that. No I won't go looking for a link but I'm sure its out there to be found.

[Scuba]

40. Yeah, what about war criminal Kissinger, who Hillary called a "trusted advisor" in her book?

[tularetom]

9. It's a big club...

...and you ain't in it.

[KingCharlemagne]

12. I'd like to think that somewhere in Standup Heaven Bernie's rise is

making George smile, he who so often made us smile.

[CorporatistNation]

25. HUGEEEEE Wish George Were Here To See This!

He is what America Needs... Along with Bernie To Carry The Water.

[daleanime]

31. +1

[Rosa Luxemburg]

60. It's strange how poor people relate to these millionaires

what makes them vote for the rich especially Democrats? Poor people vote against their own interests when they vote for a 1%er

[tularetom]

63. Nah, they know they'll never be millionaires

They vote for the 1%ers because they make them think they're better off than "minorities" and other "takers".

[senz]

10. Precisely, KingCharlemagne

That's what they're counting on.

[NanceGreggs]

11. Another bad day for Bernie?

Hauling out photos like this is always a sign that things aren't going well in the BS camp.

[KingCharlemagne]

13. Why is your candidate cuddled up to a racist and sexist? - nt

[NanceGreggs]

16. Why do you think posting old photos ...

... accomplishes anything?

Like I said, it's usually meant as a distraction when BS is having a bad day.

[KingCharlemagne]

18. Thanks for the kick! - nt

[NanceGreggs]

22. Oh, you are very welcome!

It's always good to kick these things, just in case there's anyone here who missed them the first fifty times they were posted!

And sorry Bernie is having another bad day. These things happen.

[JDPriestly]

30. These photos tell the truth about who Hillary respects, loves and hangs out with.

These old photos record Hillary's life. I don't know whether you have ever read any of Kissinger"s books, but if you think you want to vote for Hillary, I suggest you read at least one, remember that she accepts his advice and rethink who you want to vote for.

A lot of Hillary supporters know very little about her foreign policy positions, the ideas that influenced them and how she would put our country at risk as president.

Opinion polls are nice, but few poll participants know more about the candidates than what they see in short snippets of stories on TV.

Hillary is a Kissinger admirer. That alone is enough to cause me to vote for Bernie.

[NanceGreggs]

38. I had no idea ...

... that you are privy to what HRC supporters know or don't know about her foreign policy positions, or that few poll participants know more about the candidates than what they see on TV.

How many HRC supporters have you interviewed in order to gain this startling information? How many poll participants have you contacted and questioned about their political opinions, and what they base those opinions on?

I have no need to rethink who I support. But I do appreciate your extensive - uh? - "knowledge" about how little HRC supporters and poll participants know. Given the subject, your research must be extensive.

The fact remains, however, that posting photos of Hillary with Kissinger or Trump, which BS supporters do over and over, is almost invariably a sign that Bernie is having a bad news day.

[JDPriestly]

46. How do I know that Hillary supporters are ill informed?

Because they support Hillary. An informed person would not support her.

[NanceGreggs]

64. Well, I figured that's where you were going.

In other words, "Anyone who supports a candidate I don't support is a poopy-head,"

I was wondering why you didn't just get to the point, instead of feigning knowledge about HRC supporters, poll participants, etc.

Well, it looks like the majority of Democrats are, according to your valuable insight, all uninformed. That's a LOT of people - but they'll have plenty of company under that bus - the one under which BSers keep throwing everyone who doesn't agree with them.

[JDPriestly]

66. A lot of people are uninformed.

[NanceGreggs]

67. Well, according to you ...

... "An informed person would not support her."

So you believe that all of the millions of people who support HRC are uninformed. How - hmm - "informative" that is, in terms of how you think.

And of course, you would be in a position to know just how informed or uninformed every Hillary supporter is, wouldn't you?

[okasha]

76. Suggest you look up "circular logic,, "

Just so you'll be "informed. "

[anigbrowl]

19. Obviously there was something wrong with her crystal ball

It was very careless of her not to look several years into the future and form an opinion of Trump based on events and statements that had yet to take place. Myself, I don't leave the house with looking at least 5 years ahead.

[KingCharlemagne]

20. The smiles. But thanks for the kick! - nt

[pangaia]

36. How could ANYONE not have known way back when, or at anytime. that trump is

a narcissistic, fucking asshole?

Happy New year.

[anigbrowl]

68. So what?

Attending someone's wedding isn't the same as actually marrying them. I've attended many weddings of people I didn't particularly care for, and made nice so as not to spoil the occasion from anyone. It's just part of being a social animal.

[pangaia]

69. Well I have never been to a wedding of someone I didn't like.

[anigbrowl]

70. Again, so what?

Are your choices about your social life somehow the benchmark everyone else should live by?

[dlwickham]

27. why did your candidate meet with an known anti-choice homophobe in Atlanta last month?

https://berniesanders.com/press-release/sanders-visits-king-center/

Sanders said he was “honored and pleased” to meet at the King Center with the Rev. Bernice King, the Kings’ youngest daughter.

http://www.advocate.com/politics/marriage-equality/2013/07/28/bernice-king-opposes-marriage-equality-im-not-enemy

King has in the past said her father “did not take a bullet for same-sex marriage,” and in 2004 she marched in Atlanta alongside antigay Pastor Eddie Long to protest same-sex marriage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernice_King#Views

King is opposed to abortion. She believes that life begins and should be protected by law at conception.[139] On August 22, 2013, King expressed her belief that "life begins in a woman’s womb.”[140]

Gay rights

In 2005, she led a march to her father's gravesite and at the same time called out for a constitutional ban on gay marriage. She once said to LGBT supporters that her father did not take a bullet for same-sex marriage.[134]

During Atlanta's 2012 Martin Luther King Jr. Day rally, King included LGBT people among the various groups who needed to come together to "fulfill her father’s legacy."[135] When speaking at Brown University in 2013, King made statements regarding her beliefs about the origins of marriage: "I believe that the family was created and ordained first and foremost by God, that he instituted the marriage, and that's a law that he instituted and not... that we instituted"[136] and about the origins of same-sex attraction: "I also don't believe everybody's born that way. I know some people have been violated. I know some people have unfortunately delved into it as an experiment".[137] King has publicly stated that her father would have been against gay marriage.[138]

[KingCharlemagne]

32. why don't you email his campaign and ask him yourself? - nt

[pangaia]

37. HA !! Well placed... Well placed...

To briefly paraphrase another well-known DUer






Ok that's enough.

[dlwickham]

48. well placed?

I think you mean well-played

[dlwickham]

47. so in other words

it's okay for Bernie to publicly embrace bigots in 2015 while Hillary gets attacked for a picture at some dinner with Kissinger or as a guest at a wedding?

can't wait until this is all over

[KingCharlemagne]

49. I take it from your post that you haven't emailed his

campaign to ask him. Which tells me you aren't really interested in the answer to your question but are an adherent of the "two wrongs make a right" school of thought.

[dlwickham]

55. it's not "two wrongs"

it's a picture of Hillary at a dinner with Kissinger and at Trump's wedding-social events

the only wrong here is Sanders meeting with Bernice King on a campaign trip

[okasha]

77. No need to ask.

That was right after the "marched with MLK" meme got debunked, and he was trying to cozy up to King's legacy any way he could. Unfortunately, this woman seems to carry on nothing but King's DNA, certainly not his civil and human rights work.

Yet another Bad Day at Bern Rock.

[TM99]

52. You really don't want to do this.

It is going to look rather stupid. Oops...too late....

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/news/local/alabama/2015/12/01/clinton-marks-anniversary-historic-montgomery-bus-boycott/76620680/

She agreed to be a keynote speaker at an event with Bernice King. But we all know that Clinton was an LGBT bigot until 2013 so that's different right?

Oh, and there is this too...

Bernice King’s gay-inclusive speech at MLK rally surprises LGBT participants
By Dyana Bagby

Atlanta — Bernice King took the stage today at Atlanta’s annual Martin Luther King Jr. rally and included gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people among the various groups she said need to come together to fulfill her father’s legacy.

In a passionate, sermon-like speech about building unity, King said she didn’t care if people were Hindu, Buddhist, Islamist, were from the North side or the South side, were black or white, were “heterosexual or homosexual, or gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender” — that all people were needed to create unity.

LGBT people who attended the rally said they were shocked that King – who has a long anti-gay past — actually acknowledged the community in a public speech, but said they were also glad because it shows people can evolve.

Rev. Maressa Pendermon, a minister with LGBT-inclusive Unity Fellowship Church, said she at first intended to tune out King because of her anti-gay past, but decided to pay attention one more time.

For her father’s vision to be realized we’ve got to come together across boundaries and then she got in preacher mode. Then she said ‘heterosexual or homosexual,’ and then backed up and said ‘lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender.’ We need all of us,” Pendermon said.

...

Paulina Helm-Hernandez, the LGBT honorary grand marshal for today’s march and rally, said she also was surprised to hear King’s inclusive words.

“I thought it was great. First time I’ve ever heard her say lesbian, gay, bi and trans out loud,” she said. “She said homosexual at first and then corrected herself. It takes a lot of grace to do something like that when you’re on a roll.”

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2012/01/bernice-kings-gay-inclusive-speech-at-mlk-rally-surprises-lgbt-participants/

Clinton evolved right on LGBT issues? So it is ok for Bernice King to do so as well? Or is it not because she is black and met with Sanders?

Better get back to the Clinton Cave and get your story straight.

[KingCharlemagne]

57. Thank you. The poster to whom you are responding is quite tiresome and

I don't have the time or inclination to spar with him substantively.

[dlwickham]

59. Bernice King made those MLK Day remarks in 2012

yet in 2013, she was still speaking against marriage equality

http://thegrio.com/2013/08/12/on-bernice-kings-recent-anti-lgbt-remarks/


she hasn't evolved-sorry



speaking of looking stupid-Hillary spoke at an event remember the Montgomery Bus Boycott and Bernice King gave the benediction

it was NOT a one-on-one meeting like Sanders had with King in November


keep on trying

[TM99]

62. You want to play the guilt by association game?

Where shall we start?

The Trumps wedding?

How about her association with The Family those LGBT bigots?

Perhaps he association and support for Rahm Emanuel two weeks ago for his job in Chicago that is now blowing up in his face?

Sanders meeting with King is not condoning her beliefs. She is still the daughter of MLK and is respected for her civil rights work.

Sanders also gave a speech at Liberty University. He also did not condone their bigoted thoughts or beliefs.

Has Clinton disavowed her friendly connections to the Trumps, the Family, or Rahm?

I will wait while you go find out.

[dlwickham]

71. OMG

You're so funny

I almost feel sorry for you. What flavor is Sanders kool-aid?

[Fawke Em]

58. Ask your own candidate, first.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251864488

Clinton spoke from the same pulpit at Dexter Avenue King Memorial Baptist Church where King preached his Sunday sermons as pastor from 1954 to 1960.

King's daughter, Bernice King, was scheduled to give the benediction. Fred Gray, the lawyer who represented the women who sued to overturn the segregated bus seating ordinance, will also speak.

Earlier, U.S. Rep. Terri Sewell, the lone Democrat and African American member of Alabama's congressional delegation, told the crowd "old battles have become new again."

[dlwickham]

61. I'll type this slow so you can understand

Hillary's speech in Montgomery wasn't an one-on-one campaign stop with Bernice King

it was an appearance at an event held in front of over 300 people

Sanders-one on one
Hillary-hundreds

do you understand the difference?

[okasha]

75. Trump was a Democrat at the time,

and Hillary was a Senator representing New York.

I'll bet Bernie gets invites from prominent Vermonters, too. It goes with the job.

[stevenleser]

78. So Bernie won't deal with leaders of nations who have those issues? Because that is what a President

has to do.

If Bernie is incapable of doing that, we need to know now.

[comradebillyboy]

54. They are jealous because nobody wants to be seen with Bernie...nt

[Fawke Em]

56. No - it's been a great couple of weeks.

Guess your theory, like your candidate's positions, is full of $*#t.

[NanceGreggs]

65. Actually, my theory holds up quite well.

Bernie's numbers are still stagnant, he's waaaaay behind HRC, and he had to fire three of his campaign staffers due to unethical/illegal behaviour.

That doesn't sound like "a great couple of weeks" to me.

[wilsonbooks]

14. Bill and Paul Ryan

[rbrnmw]

21. Why don't you tell the whole story?

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/paul-ryan-and-bill-clinton-chat-backstage-about-medicare-ny-26-video

snip

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) is not backing down from his Medicare privatization proposals, in the wake of the GOP's stunning defeat in the NY-26 special election. And as ABC News reports, he's getting some friendly advice from an unlikely source: Democratic former President Bill Clinton.


As ABC notes, Clinton's actual speech was substantively the same as his discussion with Ryan: The NY-26 election turned on the public not liking Ryan's Medicare proposals, and Clinton agrees with that same judgment to oppose Ryan's plan, but he also cautioned against doing nothing on the issue as a reaction to the election.

[Brainstormy]

15. I must be stupid

this is completely over my head. What is the message here?

[KingCharlemagne]

17. Hillary's supporters have tried to smear Sanders for trying to

poach Trump's supporters. But here is photographic proof of their candidate snuggled up to the racist and sexist himself.

Hope that helps.

[eggplant]

23. That is some *amazing* hair. Wow.

[Yallow]

26. Where Is The Picture Of Bernie With Trump?

Oh, I forgot. He isn't a 1%er.

My bad....

[jalan48]

28. Bill's saying, "Anybody up for a little 'Bob, Carol, Ted and Alice?"

[KingCharlemagne]

33. LMFAO! Don't be mean! :) - nt

[jalan48]

34. Sorry-I couldn't resist and given that it's Bill one has to think the thought crossed his mind.

[840high]

35. lol - bingo

[PatrickforO]

29. Yes.

[Hoyt]

39. Some of the biggest aholes I've known could be endearing at social events.

I too have smiled while thinking "what a jerk."

[Scuba]

41. Upon meeting Trump, the face a decent human being should pull would be more like ...

[KingCharlemagne]

42. What boggles the mind is that there are some who

post here who don't have any problem with hobnobbing socially with him. I really don't get it.

[CharlotteVale]

44. ROFL.

[CharlotteVale]

43. They look so cozy. Just a bunch of 1%-ers yukking it up.

Hillary couldn't be smiling much harder at Trump, could she?

[KingCharlemagne]

45. Hillary's supporters have a lot of chutzpah to insinuate that Bernie harbors

racist tendencies for trying to capture some of Tramp's supporters. Why, here's their candidate SNUGGLING UP to the racist himself IN THE FLESH! That's some chutzpah!

[KittyWampus]

51. LOL! No, the issue is the hypocrisy amongst Sanders supporters. And social contact

isn't the same as political support.

[KingCharlemagne]

53. Thanks for the kick! - nt

[rbrnmw]

72. Bernie Sanders on the Democratic Party

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/08/bernie-sanders-2016-democrats-121181

Democrats, Welch recalled, were “extremely upset.”
Sanders responded by intensifying his invective.
“The main difference between the Democrats and the Republicans in this city,” he said in an interview in Burlington in July with a Cornell student writing a master’s thesis, “is that the Democrats are in insurance and the Republicans are in banking.”
In that summer’s issue of Vermont Affairs magazine, he called the Democratic Party “ideologically bankrupt,” then added: “They have no ideology. Their ideology is opportunism.”
Kunin won. Sanders got only 15 percent of the vote.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/08/bernie-sanders-2016-democrats-121181#ixzz3w8JjoMpI

“I am not a Democrat, period.” Sanders’ support for Michael Dukakis, the eventual nominee, was so tepid it almost didn’t even qualify. He dubbed Dukakis “the lesser of two evils” as opposed to George H.W. Bush.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/08/bernie-sanders-2016-democrats-121181#ixzz3w8K0XOUQ

[George II]

73. How many times are you guys going to post that picture, or others like it?

I'll fill you in on a little secret, don't tell anyone.....stuff like this isn't going to get Sanders the nomination.

[demwing]

74. It's a big club

And you ain't in it...

https://m.

[stevenleser]

79. So if Bernie won't deal with any leader who exhibits racism, sexism, homophobia...

religiocentrism or ethnocentrism of any sort, he is unqualified to be President because that excludes a huge percentage of the worlds leaders, sad to say.

We need to know that now because if that is how it is, he needs to drop out of the race.


This photo of Hillary shows she can deal with people with whom she radically disagrees. And you are going to radically disagree with just about every world leader at least once during a 4 year term and probably more than once during an 8 year term.

[Thinkingabout]

80. The sign of a good leader is meeting the duties of leadership.

She sure looks presidential.