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DCBob

(24,689 posts)
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 09:38 AM Jan 2016

Another huge dump of Hillary's emails and still no smoking gun.

The latest batch of 3,105 emails includes 275 documents upgraded to "classified" since they landed in the former Secretary's personal inbox. That brings the total number of classified docs found in the emails to 1,274. A State Department official told Fox News on Thursday that two of those emails were upgraded to "secret," while most of the others were upgraded to "confidential."
   -snip-
Republican National Committee (RNC) Chairman Reince Priebus seized upon the news of the upgraded emails as another reason the 2016 presidential candidate couldn't be taken at her word. "With more than 1,250 emails containing classified information now uncovered, Hillary Clinton's decision to put secrecy over national security by exclusively operating off of a secret email server looks even more reckless," he said in a statement on Thursday.
   -snip-
The State Department, however, reminded that the classifications were retroactive. "The information we upgraded today was not marked classified at the time the emails were sent," the official said.
   -snip-
The final installment is expected just before the Iowa caucuses in February.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/01/state-department-releases-over-3000-clinton-emails-on-new-years-eve.html (sorry for the Faux Newz link.)

Thank goodness this nonsense will be over with by February!
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Another huge dump of Hillary's emails and still no smoking gun. (Original Post) DCBob Jan 2016 OP
Still a stupid decision on her part... Agschmid Jan 2016 #1
I wouldn't say "stupid" but clearly a mistake. DCBob Jan 2016 #2
oh come on, it was massively stupid. Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #4
No it wasn't. DCBob Jan 2016 #5
She completely lost control of her email. Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #10
That's due to a FOIA request. DCBob Jan 2016 #11
The FOIA would not have covered her private emails if she had not used her private email server for Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #16
So yes. . her big mistake was intermingling personal and sos correspondence. DCBob Jan 2016 #22
A question comes to mind after all this hoopla about emails. napi21 Jan 2016 #35
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2016 #12
Not much yet. Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #17
No, only some of her private emails are being made public. The rest were deleted by her/her staff. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #19
She of course was allowed to delete her personal emails. DCBob Jan 2016 #23
If you trust her, then it is not an issue. Some of us know her too well to trust her. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #26
Yes. I totally trust her. She is a professional with tons of experience and credibility. DCBob Jan 2016 #29
Well we are in the company of greatness upaloopa Jan 2016 #33
One can know a politician by their actions. n/t JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #40
"Queen Hillary" Gets Special Dispensation with Regard to Transparency CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #43
One Additional Example of POOR Judgement On The Part of "Madam Secretary..." CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #42
The request has NOT been fullfilled! Wont have it all until ONE DAY BEFORE THE CAUCUSES! ViseGrip Jan 2016 #41
"most people" I do not think so karynnj Jan 2016 #13
Well, WTH, their mission to get her to crack not only Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #3
The Republicans I am sure are regretting bringing her back in for questioning. DCBob Jan 2016 #6
And to think they were exposed and went ahead and tried to Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #7
The thing is Bob madokie Jan 2016 #37
That was a truly remarkable performance and the picture of her comradebillyboy Jan 2016 #48
When the Chair of the RNC can come out and clearly lie on national TV, then riversedge Jan 2016 #8
I think that only works with the Fox news crowd. DCBob Jan 2016 #9
Pot Calling Kettle Black? CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #44
Disappointing for Hillary Haters no doubt redstateblues Jan 2016 #14
The GOP and the Bernie Bunch are praying for a bombshell to emerge. DCBob Jan 2016 #15
No bombshells -- Just another in the Clintons' endless, needless shots to the feet Armstead Jan 2016 #21
This fake scandal has run its course. DCBob Jan 2016 #24
No Bjornsdotter Jan 2016 #31
GENERAL ELECTION IS THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY! CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #45
Not that there is one, but as the emails are heavily redacted, we wouldn't know if there was cali Jan 2016 #18
Not to mention the uncountable emails simply deleted because they were "personal" JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #20
Why are you repeating right wing talking points on a Democratic site? ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #25
Bernie Sanders nor anyone else determines what I consider to be a legitimate issue. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #27
Like I said, you would fit right in at freerepublic. ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #32
You are mistaken. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #38
Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #46
I am not a supporter of the NRA. Please do not lie about what I support JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #49
I never called you an infiltrator. Please stop putting words in my mouth. nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #50
LOL. n/t JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #51
It is only because nothing you can say about Bernie upaloopa Jan 2016 #34
You are mistaken. This is not about Bernie. I will fight for my beliefs my entire life. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #39
As Well I have Fought For TRUTH and INTEGRITY AS A Private Citizen And As A CANDIDATE CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #47
It will never be over. Many people including upaloopa Jan 2016 #28
"smoking gun". We need a new phrase. Smoking's bad for you, but guns are the answer to every problem Buzz Clik Jan 2016 #30
Exactly. Emails are not a problem. Seems ... oddly convenient though that the last Persondem Jan 2016 #36
According to one email :We did learn that George Soros regrets choosing Obama over Clinton Truprogressive85 Jan 2016 #52

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
1. Still a stupid decision on her part...
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 09:49 AM
Jan 2016

But hardly the smoking gun most folks apparently wanted it to be.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
4. oh come on, it was massively stupid.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 10:20 AM
Jan 2016

It wasn't on the level of getting a blowjob from your intern in the oval office stupid, but it was an incredible blunder that opened up her private email to scrutiny by her enemies. "Control" has turned into "here check my laundry hamper too".

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
5. No it wasn't.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 10:23 AM
Jan 2016

No evidence of anything of the sort you claim. It was poor decision but based on something legitimate. There is nothing wrong with wanting control especially in her position at the time. Her biggest failure I guess would be not understanding email server security.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
10. She completely lost control of her email.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 10:46 AM
Jan 2016

If as you say her intention was "control" what she got instead was absolute loss of control. All of her private emails are being made public.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
11. That's due to a FOIA request.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 10:52 AM
Jan 2016

No matter what email system she used, a FOIA request could be made to get emails she sent during her time as Secretary of State.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
16. The FOIA would not have covered her private emails if she had not used her private email server for
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 12:04 PM
Jan 2016

her SOS email.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
22. So yes. . her big mistake was intermingling personal and sos correspondence.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 01:45 PM
Jan 2016

Not really a big deal in the grand scheme of things.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
35. A question comes to mind after all this hoopla about emails.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 02:22 PM
Jan 2016

What if a gov't official does keep a "private email acct." & "a secure gov't email acct.", then accidentally uses the private one for classified info? Under the current laws, it looks like no one would ever know. That being the case, isn't the whole witch hunt obviously a glaring attack JUST BECAUSE it's Hillary?

Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #10)

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
19. No, only some of her private emails are being made public. The rest were deleted by her/her staff.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 12:32 PM
Jan 2016

And people wonder why we haven't found a smoking gun?!?

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
23. She of course was allowed to delete her personal emails.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 01:57 PM
Jan 2016

That is not an issue except to the GOP and some Sanders supporters.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
26. If you trust her, then it is not an issue. Some of us know her too well to trust her.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 02:03 PM
Jan 2016

Indeed, that is part of why we do not support her.

Sanders, however, has shown trustworthiness.

It isn't complicated, Hillary has just lied too many times.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
29. Yes. I totally trust her. She is a professional with tons of experience and credibility.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 02:10 PM
Jan 2016

None of these alleged scandals have ever stuck. Her biggest flaws are all related to campaigning. She sometimes exaggerates a bit or misspeaks. Most do it from time to time. Not a huge issue to me. She is a hard core politician and simply wants to win.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
33. Well we are in the company of greatness
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 02:14 PM
Jan 2016

People who know Hillary so well.

You should write a biography and make some money with all that inside information.

Of course you have to get in line behind all the other scandal mongers.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
43. "Queen Hillary" Gets Special Dispensation with Regard to Transparency
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 02:53 PM
Jan 2016

Hiding such from her subjects. But a review of the content smoking gun is in the eye of the beholder is very insightful relative to her "specialness," personality quirks etc. VALUABLE BEYOND BELIEF AND MUST BE FULLY EXAMINED AND DISTRIBUTED.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
42. One Additional Example of POOR Judgement On The Part of "Madam Secretary..."
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 02:49 PM
Jan 2016

There were emails that were quoted in the paper this morning that gave considerable insight into the REAL personality of Mrs. Clinton.

If "appointed" to the Presidency as is the obvious plan of the Corporatist Oligarchy we would be looking at "QUEEN Fucking Hillary" w/o a doubt. You've got to read some of this crap it is in a word UNBELIEVABLE!

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
13. "most people" I do not think so
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 10:59 AM
Jan 2016

People who already liked Clinton mostly argued it was no big deal. Most of those who questioned it, questioned the PROCESS.

Hillary was the first to demand all the email SHE GAVE the State Department be made public. Personally, I don't think her actions as SoS were illegal, so nothing other than her perchance for secrecy and lack of transparency were the negatives shown.

As to the right, many never expected a smoking gun to come out because Clinton people determined what went to the SD. What that means is, that for them, the huge amount of work by the SD could never exonerate HRC and Obama.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. Well, WTH, their mission to get her to crack not only
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 10:07 AM
Jan 2016

Failed miserably but it was eleven hours of showcasing a great candidate, maybe we are going to have to say thank you Republicans, could not have gotten this showcase without your "help".

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
6. The Republicans I am sure are regretting bringing her back in for questioning.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 10:31 AM
Jan 2016

That turned into the best campaign ad ever.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
37. The thing is Bob
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 02:37 PM
Jan 2016

the people already have their minds made up, either they're for or against Hillary. No one is going to be changing their minds.

Case in point. The same people who wouldn't vote for her in '08 won't be voting for her in '16. In my neck of the woods I don't know but a couple people who will vote for her and a shit pot full of people who will get up and go vote against her if she is our nominee. Those numbers hasn't changed and aren't likely to change. Hence Bernie's saying the american people are sick of hearing about your damn emails. They don't matter to the average joe and jane
Hillary is a sure bet on a repubi'CON walking into the white house as President in January of '17. You can take that to the bank because it is Fact.

Hillary will not be our nominee so I'm not much concerned about her anyway, just sick of her waffling ways is all.

Read my sig line to get a feel for what I am and who I will vote for in the general before you go off saying I'm one of those who, (I've only seen a couple who,) say they damn sure won't vote for the Hill. I will if I have to but it will be a have to case. OK

riversedge

(70,189 posts)
8. When the Chair of the RNC can come out and clearly lie on national TV, then
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 10:39 AM
Jan 2016

America has a real problem because so many low information voters gobble this crap up and Believe it--and spread it around.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
9. I think that only works with the Fox news crowd.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 10:41 AM
Jan 2016

Most everyone else is "sick of hearing about her damn emails"!

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
15. The GOP and the Bernie Bunch are praying for a bombshell to emerge.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 11:04 AM
Jan 2016

They are all going to be disappointed.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
24. This fake scandal has run its course.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 02:00 PM
Jan 2016

Few are interested anymore except Republicans and desperate Sanders supporters.

Bjornsdotter

(6,123 posts)
31. No
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 02:13 PM
Jan 2016

You are wrong.

I don't want them to find anything because it hurts the entire party and our chances in the GE....no matter who the candidate is.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
20. Not to mention the uncountable emails simply deleted because they were "personal"
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 12:35 PM
Jan 2016

We just have to trust her! Right.

ProudToBeLiberal

(3,964 posts)
25. Why are you repeating right wing talking points on a Democratic site?
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 02:02 PM
Jan 2016

If I didn't know any better, I would have assumed you were a freeper. Even Bernie Sanders has said enough about the damn emails.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
27. Bernie Sanders nor anyone else determines what I consider to be a legitimate issue.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 02:07 PM
Jan 2016

The whole Benghazi scandal blew up in the GOP's face. Their witchhunt has and should have been condemned.

However, it is a legitimate issue that she had a private e-mail server for communication and could delete what she pleased before turning things over to the State Department. How is it a legitimate issue? Because I as a democratic primary voter decided it was, and because it speaks to a lack of transparency and integrity.

ProudToBeLiberal

(3,964 posts)
32. Like I said, you would fit right in at freerepublic.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 02:14 PM
Jan 2016

They are obsessed with Clinton emails. Every time their is an email dump, it's a holiday over there. I think it's your cup of tea. Trey Gowdy must be your hero. He is probably the single most person infatuated with Clinton emails. I bet you were disappointed when nothing came out of the 11 hour Benghazi/email hearing.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
38. You are mistaken.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 02:39 PM
Jan 2016

I believe in

* Publicly financed elections
* Instant runoff voting
* State-funded universities which are tuition-free
* Substantial Wall St. regulations, including an empowered DOJ and SEC.
* An end to the revolving door of politics and private industry
* Healthcare for all
* Abortion rights and access for every woman
* Closing tax loopholes on the rich, forcing the wealthy to pay their fair share.
* Strengthening Social Security.
* Corporate tax reform; closing loopholes and discouraging corporate inversions.
* Restraint in foreign affairs; no nation building, regime change. Just trade.
* Union protections.
* No free trade agreements which put U.S. workers at a disadvantage; tariffs might be a good idea.
* Clean energy and strong environmental regulations to stop global climate change
* An end to domestic spying by the NSA or any of the Five Eyes
* Free Speech and the Bill of Rights absolutely.
* Black Lives Matter

Things I might agree with freepers on:

* RKBA (partly)
* Hillary Clinton has a lack of integrity
* Fiscal responsibility (i.e. no boondoggles, but then what Democrat wouldn't agree with me here?)

Response to JonLeibowitz (Reply #38)

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
49. I am not a supporter of the NRA. Please do not lie about what I support
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 03:27 PM
Jan 2016

I support the RKBA. In case you missed it, there is an entire group on this very forum (Gun Control & RKBA). Many DU members support the RKBA and are democratic voters. Your willful ignorance notwithstanding, one can support the RKBA and not support the NRA.

You completely ignored everything that I believe in that the freepers violently disagree with. I suggest you go back and read my post more carefully before saying that I am a infiltrator.

I will continue to post what I think and believe about our candidates and fully ignore what you prefer to hear or not hear.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
34. It is only because nothing you can say about Bernie
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 02:19 PM
Jan 2016

can help at this point. The only play Bernie folks have left is to bash Hillary and the clock is running out on that too.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
47. As Well I have Fought For TRUTH and INTEGRITY AS A Private Citizen And As A CANDIDATE
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 02:58 PM
Jan 2016

This election is about The Establishment vs The Anti-Establishment... It is as simple as that.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
28. It will never be over. Many people including
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 02:09 PM
Jan 2016

some DUers never let truth get in the way of a good scandal.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
30. "smoking gun". We need a new phrase. Smoking's bad for you, but guns are the answer to every problem
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 02:11 PM
Jan 2016


Persondem

(1,936 posts)
36. Exactly. Emails are not a problem. Seems ... oddly convenient though that the last
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 02:27 PM
Jan 2016

release will be right before the Iowa caucus. If such a thing were happening to Sanders the howling would already have begun.

K & R

Truprogressive85

(900 posts)
52. According to one email :We did learn that George Soros regrets choosing Obama over Clinton
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 03:47 PM
Jan 2016
Because He did not get direct access

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